Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

The Confederacy was a nation built to ensure that the institution of slavery would last forever. The idea that we would celebrate such a nation is offensive
. A whole nation or just part of a nation concerning the corporate run slavery side of it ??? Many human attributes remain in human beings right now today if gather together for the wrong reasons (i.e. illegal Mexican 2.0 light that has taken place), but it's not as wide spread as it was at different times in history, and it can show up among any culture now, be it black culture in acceptance of, or in white culture the same etc.
 
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The Confederacy was a nation built to ensure that the institution of slavery would last forever. The idea that we would celebrate such a nation is offensive

Slavery was already imploding under it's own weight.

For the most part, you are correct
The creation of the Confederacy accelerated the demise of slavery in just four years. By 1865, it was gone and blacks had full rights

That is why I don't take you serious

Edumacate me

Could blacks vote in 1866? Consider yourself educated

The 15th amendment passed in 1870. If slavery had been allowed to run its course, Blacks, in all probability would not have gotten the vote until the 1920s when women finally got to vote
 
Why should we celebrate traitors to our country ?
Save your Confederate money, son. The South will rise again.

.. and when it rises, it will rise Black and Hispanic and White and whomever else is American.

The South you speak of is dead and buried .. and today confederate flags are stinking up the garbage dumps.
 
Why should we celebrate traitors to our country ?

It's history. What next? Remove Civil War information from text books because the Confederacy has to be mentioned?

Nope, just write the confederacy for what it was .. a shit stain on American history.

Nothing 'glorious' about it.

Our history books should not glorify the Confederacy. It was a nation built to ensure that the right to own other human beings could not be taken away

From the Confederate Constitution:

Article I, Section 9, Clause 4 prohibited the Confederate government from restricting slavery in any way:

"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."


No state was allowed to pass laws that impacted the ability to own slaves
 
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Why should we celebrate traitors to our country ?

It's history. What next? Remove Civil War information from text books because the Confederacy has to be mentioned?

Nope, just write the confederacy for what it was .. a shit stain on American history.

Nothing 'glorious' about it.
. Set aside the need for slave labor as was thought of back in that time period, and then let's look at what type of white culture existed back then, and for which had existed outside of the workings of slavery, plantations, and all that was going on in that area of the time period. Otherwise let's look at the difference between Nazi's and Germans in the same ways maybe...

Now how do you think the white culture (aside from the plantation owners) looked at a people who were pulled out of Africa, put onto plantations as slave labor back then ????? A people who were put there because of their physical attributes, mentality, and vulnerabilities right ???

Is it perceived that the whites were a more acceptable civilized white culture & society at that time period ?? The fear of the unknowns found in the African people was a sad state of affairs in which they (the Africans) were caught up in, and it made whites highly skeptical of the Africans being accepted into their society at large back then, and for years to come afterwards... This caused a rejection of them (the Africans) to be openly accepted by the majority of whites at the time, and it was of no fault of the Africans that this was happening, because they were brought here from a culture that was so very different than the European culture here was at the time ??

It's sad in the way that the two were brought together back in that time period, but that's all history now... It made for a sad situation that had consequences for years and years to come for both sides. Now to be fair, the African Americans if we're established here first back then, would they have also have rejected a people in the same way if the shoe were on the other foot maybe ? For example below :

African Americans are just like anyone else right, where as they are not willing to compromise their culture, ideals, family values, and safety as Americans by allowing for example, a skin head culture to come into their community for a myriad of reasons right ?? Not to say there is a comparison between African Americans and the skin heads, but the perception was the same back then or during slavery time I mean to illustrate maybe... The same thinking would also be found amongst the African Americans as were the whites back then on the matter if the situation was the same I think.. So what if the skin heads wanted to join up with, and infiltrate the black culture, and go with their daughters, and impact their childrens thinking etc. ???

Now what if these skin heads were brought here from another land to be worked as slaves on plantations, and then you as a black person were to see them in the fields working, and you would say to your father " father, why are those people out there in those fields working like that father", and why do you see some of them with chains on their feet father ??? Then your black father would says to you son, "well son you see they came here from a land far far away, and they were sold here as laborers by the other skin heads that occupied their lands". The black son says next... Father, did they do something wrong that they were sold like that, and now they have to be in that situation ???? The black father says, I'm not sure son, but that probably could be the case, so stay away from them ok... I ask would the same rejection be given by the blacks unto them in such a case ? Do they really understand what's wrong with skinhead culture, and would they be willing to work to help them reform or would they just want them dead or sent back if we're freed ??

Was there a huge cultural clash between what the whites knew about these Africans, and what they didn't know about the Africans fully at the time, and for whom had a very strange culture in which had allowed them to be captured by their own people, and then sold into slavery across vast stretches of oceans all over the world ? Was there a fear that Africans weren't living right as a culture, and this was thought of by the whites throughout time because of the situation they were in, and then to have allowed such a thing to take place against them as it were ?? Did this cause a looking down upon or a disrespect to happen because of the terrible things that they had allowed to take place against them as a people back then ??? Did the whites figure that such a thing was not to be allowed to be transferred into the white culture, so the white culture felt it best to reject the Africans at the time, because of the situation that they had gotten themselves into, and couldn't get themselves out of ?? Just trying to understand history, and why things happen is all. It was all a huge misunderstanding on everyone's parts back then, but we sure have come along way from that craziness over time.
 
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Good!! they should move the statue to a museum where it belongs



In a town that once took considerable pride in its Confederate past, the Alexandria City Council voted unanimously Saturday to change the name of Jefferson Davis Highway and seek permission from the Virginia General Assembly to move a renowned statue of a Confederate soldier in historic Old Town.

The council’s actions went beyond the recommendations of a task force that studied what to do about the city’s controversial Confederate symbols, but not as far as some residents wanted.

After a lengthy public hearing, the council agreed to try to relocate the “Appomattox” statue from the busy intersection of Prince and Washington streets, where thousands of motorists pass it each day. The pensive and unarmed south-facing Confederate soldier would be moved to a local history museum on the same corner.


It was just a year ago that the city decided to end its practice of hanging three Confederate flags from traffic light poles at the “Appomattox” statue on Lee’s birthday and on Confederate Memorial Day.

Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

About time they abandoned their traitor past
Ya know I drove past that statue probably a couple of hundred times and I don't even remember what it looks like. Given the traffic there and the fact most people aren't paying attention to the statue I can safely estimate that 98 percent of the people driving by it also never paid attention to it either. Pretty much this is a non issue except for a very few highly butt hurt people.
 
Good!! they should move the statue to a museum where it belongs



In a town that once took considerable pride in its Confederate past, the Alexandria City Council voted unanimously Saturday to change the name of Jefferson Davis Highway and seek permission from the Virginia General Assembly to move a renowned statue of a Confederate soldier in historic Old Town.

The council’s actions went beyond the recommendations of a task force that studied what to do about the city’s controversial Confederate symbols, but not as far as some residents wanted.

After a lengthy public hearing, the council agreed to try to relocate the “Appomattox” statue from the busy intersection of Prince and Washington streets, where thousands of motorists pass it each day. The pensive and unarmed south-facing Confederate soldier would be moved to a local history museum on the same corner.


It was just a year ago that the city decided to end its practice of hanging three Confederate flags from traffic light poles at the “Appomattox” statue on Lee’s birthday and on Confederate Memorial Day.

Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

About time they abandoned their traitor past
Ya know I drove past that statue probably a couple of hundred times and I don't even remember what it looks like. Given the traffic there and the fact most people aren't paying attention to the statue I can safely estimate that 98 percent of the people driving by it also never paid attention to it either. Pretty much this is a non issue except for a very few highly butt hurt people.

I'm thinking they should name Route 1 the Barack Obama Highway
 
Reading this thread is exactly why one should never listen to a left loon talk about history.

Still waiting for the historical perspective of SmellyIrishAss

Save it fruitcake, you're just another left loon spewing shit you've been indoctrinated with. Now get past I take anything you say serious.

The vast majority of Confederate soldiers never owned a slave, they were fighting for State's rights. If you would actually attempt to learn something instead of drinking left loon swill you'd know this, read diaries of the southerners not history books written by socialist assholes trying to rewrite history

The vast majority of Confederate soldiers were manipulated by the one percent who needed slave labor to keep their profit margins....we need you to die for Ol'Virginny

Kind of like Trump voters today
Wrong. Most southern men fought to protect their homes and land from what they considered an invading army. In that age most people gave allegiance to their state first, the federal government second that was the mind set.
 
Reading this thread is exactly why one should never listen to a left loon talk about history.

Still waiting for the historical perspective of SmellyIrishAss

Save it fruitcake, you're just another left loon spewing shit you've been indoctrinated with. Now get past I take anything you say serious.

The vast majority of Confederate soldiers never owned a slave, they were fighting for State's rights. If you would actually attempt to learn something instead of drinking left loon swill you'd know this, read diaries of the southerners not history books written by socialist assholes trying to rewrite history

The vast majority of Confederate soldiers were manipulated by the one percent who needed slave labor to keep their profit margins....we need you to die for Ol'Virginny

Kind of like Trump voters today
Wrong. Most southern men fought to protect their homes and land from what they considered an invading army. In that age most people gave allegiance to their state first, the federal government second that was the mind set.

Makes more sense than ....Them Yankees is trying to take my negroes, now go charge into that line




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Good!! they should move the statue to a museum where it belongs



In a town that once took considerable pride in its Confederate past, the Alexandria City Council voted unanimously Saturday to change the name of Jefferson Davis Highway and seek permission from the Virginia General Assembly to move a renowned statue of a Confederate soldier in historic Old Town.

The council’s actions went beyond the recommendations of a task force that studied what to do about the city’s controversial Confederate symbols, but not as far as some residents wanted.

After a lengthy public hearing, the council agreed to try to relocate the “Appomattox” statue from the busy intersection of Prince and Washington streets, where thousands of motorists pass it each day. The pensive and unarmed south-facing Confederate soldier would be moved to a local history museum on the same corner.


It was just a year ago that the city decided to end its practice of hanging three Confederate flags from traffic light poles at the “Appomattox” statue on Lee’s birthday and on Confederate Memorial Day.

Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

About time they abandoned their traitor past
Ya know I drove past that statue probably a couple of hundred times and I don't even remember what it looks like. Given the traffic there and the fact most people aren't paying attention to the statue I can safely estimate that 98 percent of the people driving by it also never paid attention to it either. Pretty much this is a non issue except for a very few highly butt hurt people.

I'm thinking they should name Route 1 the Barack Obama Highway
Go for it. No skin off of my nose. :dunno:
I'm waiting for somebody to tell me, "you're not black, you wouldn't understand". I live near many Indian reservations, near areas where my grandfather's peoples were massacred by both whites and buffalo soldiers. Many of those responsible have been memorialize with streets, schools and towns named after them. Do I care? No, why should I? It happened a long time ago, I may reenact and study the past but I don't live in it.
 
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Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !
 
Hey guys, maybe we should ban cotton!! It's profit kept so many in slavery and all that. It's very existence in all our stores is an insult to millions of black people everywhere.
 
Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !
So what made them traitors? Please actually elaborate on your opinion.
 
Good!! they should move the statue to a museum where it belongs



In a town that once took considerable pride in its Confederate past, the Alexandria City Council voted unanimously Saturday to change the name of Jefferson Davis Highway and seek permission from the Virginia General Assembly to move a renowned statue of a Confederate soldier in historic Old Town.

The council’s actions went beyond the recommendations of a task force that studied what to do about the city’s controversial Confederate symbols, but not as far as some residents wanted.

After a lengthy public hearing, the council agreed to try to relocate the “Appomattox” statue from the busy intersection of Prince and Washington streets, where thousands of motorists pass it each day. The pensive and unarmed south-facing Confederate soldier would be moved to a local history museum on the same corner.


It was just a year ago that the city decided to end its practice of hanging three Confederate flags from traffic light poles at the “Appomattox” statue on Lee’s birthday and on Confederate Memorial Day.

Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

About time they abandoned their traitor past
Ya know I drove past that statue probably a couple of hundred times and I don't even remember what it looks like. Given the traffic there and the fact most people aren't paying attention to the statue I can safely estimate that 98 percent of the people driving by it also never paid attention to it either. Pretty much this is a non issue except for a very few highly butt hurt people.
. Not to say one way or the other about how people feel about things in a compassionate way, but like I said to take away one part of that history is to take away all of it. To leave one part of it will be used to try and crush another with, and that isn't happening. To keep tryin is to be seen as agenda riddled, and is suspect.
 
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Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !
And look at what happened. The country was destroyed without them.
 
Hey guys, maybe we should ban cotton!! It's profit kept so many in slavery and all that. It's very existence in all our stores is an insult to millions of black people everywhere.
. Yep, and don't stop there, how about the consumer driven economy, and what it has done to millions around the world ???? I'm sure there is modern day slavery involved in all of that. Let's start a movement to stop the corporations of the world, and end slavery and exploitation for ever... :booze:
 
Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !
And look at what happened. The country was destroyed without them.

How was the country destroyed?
 
Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !
And look at what happened. The country was destroyed without them.

How was the country destroyed?
. I know where you are driving with that question. Your wanting him or her to say that they are talking about what is happening today or what has led up to today aren't you ??
 

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