Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

[rightwinger]

Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !

And look at what happened. The country was destroyed without them.

How was the country destroyed?

. I know where you are driving with that question. Your wanting him or her to say that they are talking about what is happening today or what has led up to today aren't you ??

It is just an incredibly stupid way to characterize the most powerful and successful nation on earth

 

[beagle9]

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !

And look at what happened. The country was destroyed without them.

How was the country destroyed?

. I know where you are driving with that question. Your wanting him or her to say that they are talking about what is happening today or what has led up to today aren't you ??

It is just an incredibly stupid way to characterize the most powerful and successful nation on earth

. Can be strong as a nation, and appear great from the built up spoils of the past, but still be withering on the vine slowly and precisely.

 

[Ringel05]

Good!! they should move the statue to a museum where it belongs



In a town that once took considerable pride in its Confederate past, the Alexandria City Council voted unanimously Saturday to change the name of Jefferson Davis Highway and seek permission from the Virginia General Assembly to move a renowned statue of a Confederate soldier in historic Old Town.

The council’s actions went beyond the recommendations of a task force that studied what to do about the city’s controversial Confederate symbols, but not as far as some residents wanted.

After a lengthy public hearing, the council agreed to try to relocate the “Appomattox” statue from the busy intersection of Prince and Washington streets, where thousands of motorists pass it each day. The pensive and unarmed south-facing Confederate soldier would be moved to a local history museum on the same corner.


It was just a year ago that the city decided to end its practice of hanging three Confederate flags from traffic light poles at the “Appomattox” statue on Lee’s birthday and on Confederate Memorial Day.

Alexandria will seek to move Confederate statue and rename Jefferson Davis Highway

About time they abandoned their traitor past

Ya know I drove past that statue probably a couple of hundred times and I don't even remember what it looks like. Given the traffic there and the fact most people aren't paying attention to the statue I can safely estimate that 98 percent of the people driving by it also never paid attention to it either. Pretty much this is a non issue except for a very few highly butt hurt people.

. Not to say one way or the other about how people feel about things in a compassionate way, but like I said to take away one part of that history is to take away all of it. To leave one part of it will be used to try and crush another with, and that isn't happening. To keep tryin is to be seen as agenda riddled, and is suspect.

It's sad that some people on both sides are still fighting the Civil War, basically this is just another extension of it.

 

[Divine Wind]

4 million enslaved humans is not comparable?

You're smarter than that; yes, 4 million enslaved humans is not comparable to 11 million executed in death camps.

 

[JoeB131]

The shame was the practice of slavery. Let's not forget even the Brits didn't abolish slavery until 1833. It's not like the US, of all the nations in the world as many anti-Southerners like to imply, was the only nation to allow slavery.

The Civil War itself was more about answering the question of State's autonomy vs. the "Union", as President Lincoln clearly stated in his famous letter to Horace Greeley.

Horseshit. It was about Slavery.

Which is why I don't trust anything you say. Comparing all Southerners to the Nazi genocide of 11 million human beings is beyond stupid.

The enslavement and abuse of 4 million people wasn't bad.

heres the diffrence. Most Germans didn't participate in the holocaust and didn't even know it was going on until after the war ended. They are STILL contrite about it.

Billy-Bob and Cleetus still talk about the "War between the States" like that's something to be proud of.

 

[rightwinger]

4 million enslaved humans is not comparable?

You're smarter than that; yes, 4 million enslaved humans is not comparable to 11 million executed in death camps.

Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms...neither should brag about their past

 

[JoeB131]

You're smarter than that; yes, 4 million enslaved humans is not comparable to 11 million executed in death camps.

So being systematically beaten, raped, killed, kidnapped and tortured for generations is not all that bad by you, eh?

 

[Divine Wind]

It's sad that some people on both sides are still fighting the Civil War, basically this is just another extension of it.

Sad, true, but that's because the central point of the Civil War existed back to Jefferson and Hamilton all the way to today: The right of individuals and States vs. the domination of an all-powerful central government.

The issue of slavery was resolved and corrected in the Constitution, but the battle between Nanny Staters and those who believe in strong individual freedom remains.

 

[JoeB131]

Why do they want to remove a statue and rename an highway?
Jefferson Davis and the CSA are part of Virginia history
You can't delete history
That's impossible

No, but you don't glorify what you should be ashamed of.

It's why they don't name any streets after Hitler, and they don't have any statues to Bugsy Seigal in Las Vegas.

 

[Divine Wind]

Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms...neither should brag about their past

Okay. Let's use your logic: a Nanny State is a slave state. We must bow down to the Federal government or be enslaved in prison and stripped of all our rights. "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

 

[JoeB131]

Sad, true, but that's because the central point of the Civil War existed back to Jefferson and Hamilton all the way to today: The right of individuals and States vs. the domination of an all-powerful central government.

The issue of slavery was resolved and corrected in the Constitution, but the battle between Nanny Staters and those who believe in strong individual freedom remains.

Naw... nobody really wants to live in the shitty times of the Founding Slave Rapists. You Libertarians talk a lot of shit, but you keep drinking the GOvernment Water, floridation and all.

 

[JoeB131]

Okay. Let's use your logic: a Nanny State is a slave state. We must bow down to the Federal government or be enslaved in prison and stripped of all our rights. "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

That's actually... retarded!

 

[Timmy]

Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !

So what made them traitors? Please actually elaborate on your opinion.

Taking arms up against the government in an attempt to overthrow . Killing a bunch of soildiers . Ya know, typical traitor stuff .

 

[TNHarley]

Ignorance from the lefties about the Civil War is no surprise.
Maybe some of you could explain how they were "traitors"?
Maybe you could elaborate on why you always ignore why the North shit all over the COTUS and still claim superiority?
I mean, the North won. No doubt. But that is not a reason to get all ******* retarded about it.

If the Confederacy were traitors, so were the French Revolution to the French aristocracy, the American Revolution to England,
Ukraine, Beloruss, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazahstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kyrgizistan to the \\\Soviet Union, Slovenia, Croatia, Herzegovina Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro to Yugoslavia.

The yearning for freedom and independence and self-determination has always has been and always will be strong.

The confederates were the very definition of traitors!! They tried to destroy the country !

So what made them traitors? Please actually elaborate on your opinion.

Taking arms up against the government in an attempt to overthrow . Killing a bunch of soildiers . Ya know, typical traitor stuff .

They tried to overthrow the US Federal govt? Link?

 

[rightwinger]

Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms...neither should brag about their past

Okay. Let's use your logic: a Nanny State is a slave state. We must bow down to the Federal government or be enslaved in prison and stripped of all our rights. "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

a Nanny State is a slave state

One of the dumbest and most offensive things I have ever read

 

[JoeB131]

a Nanny State is a slave state

One of the dumbest and most offensive things I have ever read

Well, you got to remember he's a Libertarian. After the third bong, anything seems like a good idea.

"Dude, I am Sooooooo wasted"

 

[Divine Wind]

....they don't have any statues to Bugsy Seigal in Las Vegas.

Not quite correct as usual for you: The Bugsy Building

And why not? By your own far Left logic, the Democrats have multiple commemorations and a "charity" for a perjurious rapist and sexual predator: Clinton Presidential Center

 

[Divine Wind]

Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms...neither should brag about their past

Okay. Let's use your logic: a Nanny State is a slave state. We must bow down to the Federal government or be enslaved in prison and stripped of all our rights. "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

a Nanny State is a slave state

One of the dumbest and most offensive things I have ever read

Quit being a drama queen. It's your logic "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

 

[Divine Wind]

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a Nanny State is a slave state

One of the dumbest and most offensive things I have ever read

Well, you got to remember he's a Libertarian. After the third bong, anything seems like a good idea.

"Dude, I am Sooooooo wasted"

Joke all you want, but at least I'm a step ahead of an antisemitic authoritarian dictatorship supporter.

 

[rightwinger]

Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms...neither should brag about their past

Okay. Let's use your logic: a Nanny State is a slave state. We must bow down to the Federal government or be enslaved in prison and stripped of all our rights. "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

a Nanny State is a slave state

One of the dumbest and most offensive things I have ever read

Quit being a drama queen. It's your logic "Pretty damned close in humanitarian terms".

No..that is not even close to logic

You really suck at analogies