Alarmists Fail to Refute Realistic Climate Report

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Earth climate data continues to read precisely...

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE
NO RISE in SURFACE AIR PRESSURE


= EARTH NOT WARMING

You are dumber than a rock.

 

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... no matter how many times it is completely refuted, and/or outed as complete and total junk science, like calling one ice core from Antarctica's oxygen isotope ratio a "global temperature."

I bet you think the earth is 6,000 years old.

 

[EMH]

I bet you think the earth is 6,000 years old.

What happens to gas in ice cores from Antarctica more than 900k years deep?

 

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What happens to gas in ice cores from Antarctica more than 900k years deep?

What happens to gas in ice cores from Antarctic less than 900k years deep?

 

[EMH]

What happens to gas in ice cores from Antarctic less than 900k years deep?

The gas is still gas....

 

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The gas is still gas....

Great. Then you shouldn't have an issue with this.

 

[EMH]

Great. Then you shouldn't have an issue with this.

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LOL!!

I do not accept "oxygen isotope ratio" from one Antarctic ice core as a "global temperature."

Oxygen isotope ratio is dirty data, especially from an ice core near a tectonically active area like Antarctic Peninsula.


As you know so well, Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time. So if you took temps from NA you'd conclude "warming," but if you took temps from Greenland you'd conclude "cooling."

 

[westwall]

It's crazy that you deny the greenhouse effect of greenhouse gases.

CO2 is indeed a GHG, however it's effect is completely buried under the effect of water vapor, which is the dominant GHG in Earth's atmosphere.

Thus, the only real impact that CO2 has in Earth's atmosphere is indeed, feeding the plants.

 

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CO2 is indeed a GHG, however it's effect is completely buried under the effect of water vapor, which is the dominant GHG in Earth's atmosphere.

Thus, the only real impact that CO2 has in Earth's atmosphere is indeed, feeding the plants.

...and 1C per doubling of CO2. It's just physics.

 

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LOL!!

I do not accept "oxygen isotope ratio" from one Antarctic ice core as a "global temperature."

Oxygen isotope ratio is dirty data, especially from an ice core near a tectonically active area like Antarctic Peninsula.


As you know so well, Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time. So if you took temps from NA you'd conclude "warming," but if you took temps from Greenland you'd conclude "cooling."

 

[westwall]

...and 1C per doubling of CO2. It's just physics.

Only works to a point. The effect is logarithmic. CO2 has already peaked out. And that's if there were no other gases in the atmosphere.

We know that there have been ice ages when the CO2 content of the atmosphere has been far higher than today.

The only correlation we see with CO2 and global temperature is a 500 to 800 year LAG on the part of CO2. It increases its atmospheric content AFTER warming has already occurred.

That is shown in the Vostock ice core data.

 

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Only works to a point. The effect is logarithmic. CO2 has already peaked out. And that's if there were no other gases in the atmosphere.

We know that there have been ice ages when the CO2 content of the atmosphere has been far higher than today.

The only correlation we see with CO2 and global temperature is a 500 to 800 year LAG on the part of CO2. It increases its atmospheric content AFTER warming has already occurred.

That is shown in the Vostock ice core data.

Sure the associated temperature effect is very prominent at low concentrations. But it doesn't go to zero at higher concentrations. It's still logarithmic. 1C per doubling of CO2. Just like the report listed in the OP shows. Feel free to share a graph you believe is correct.

 

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We know that there have been ice ages when the CO2 content of the atmosphere has been far higher than today.

Yes, the south pole glaciated with CO2 concentrations greater than 600 ppm. You can see it on the graphic below. I don't believe the glaciation of the south pole has anything to do with atmospheric CO2 because CO2 lags temperature by 1000 years.

 

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What caused the transition from a greenhouse planet to an icehouse planet? As always... the ocean currents distribution of heat.

The "opening" of the Southern Ocean gateways refers to the geological process, approximately 50 to 34 million years ago, when the continents of Australia and Antarctica drifted apart and the Drake Passage between South America and the Antarctic Peninsula deepened, creating open seaways in the Southern Ocean. This event, particularly the deepening of these gateways, caused a significant reorganization of global ocean circulation and heat transport, leading to the cooling of Earth's climate and contributing to the formation of the Antarctic ice sheets during the Eocene-Oligocene transition.

 

[EMH]

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Greenland FROZE while NORTH AMERICA thawed, refuting all of your color fudge charts...

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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Greenland FROZE while NORTH AMERICA thawed, refuting all of your color fudge charts...

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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You are a moron.

 

[EMH]

You are a moron.

translation - CO2 FRAUD taxpayer funded "faux skeptic" cannot refute anything...

 

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translation - CO2 FRAUD taxpayer funded "faux skeptic" cannot refute anything...

You are a moron.

 

[Hafar1014]

You mean besides their changing the planet's albedo by creating urban heat islands and deforestation? And besides their waste heat from burning fossil fuels for generating electricity and powering other internal combustion engines? No one knows because they have never looked into that because there's no money in it.

But if you are talking about from an incremental 120 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, the most it could be is 0.5C with a more realistic number being 0.22C. Because the most it could be is based upon 1C per doubling of CO2 with the more realistic number being based upon convection currents which whisk heat away from the surface like it does for all greenhouse gases. Only 44% of the theoretical surface temperatures from the entire atmosphere is actually seen at the surface because of convective currents. So the entire atmosphere is only 44% effective at trapping heat at the surface but according to the IPCC CO2 is 350% to 450% effective at trapping heat at the surface which is what I disagree with.

There is no research none nada zip that proves CO2 and human activity make the earth warmer. They take insignificant correlation and tie them together with fake models that show these happening at the same time but cant prove cause and effect. Its all BS

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why isnt Venice under water