ahmaund arbery trial getting closer

[Faun]

He was within hearing distance.

The fact ahmaud immediately took off running when he made the phone call is pretty strong evidence.

Again, there is no evidence Arbery heard him. It could be Arbery saw the guy and that's what prompted him to start running. No one knows.

Sadly for you, your position is so weak, you feel it necessary to make shit up.

 

[Persuader]

Twenty years ago social psychologists Anthony Greenwald, Mahzarin Banaji and Brian Nosek developed an instrument called the Implicit Association Test (IAT) that, they claimed, can read the innermost thoughts that you are afraid to tell even yourself. And those thoughts appear to be dark and prejudiced: we favor white over black, young over old, thin over fat, straight over gay, able over disabled, and more.

Few people openly admit to holding racist beliefs but many psychologists claim most of us are nonetheless unintentionally racist. We hold, what are called "implicit biases".

Implicit bias: Is everyone racist?

Few people openly admit to holding racist beliefs but many psychologists claim most of us are nonetheless unintentionally racist. Are we?

www.bbc.com

Are We All Racists Deep Inside?

Private thoughts and public acts

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[Persuader]

Again, there is no evidence Arbery heard him. It could be Arbery saw the guy and that's what prompted him to start running. No one knows.

Sadly for you, your position is so weak, you feel it necessary to make shit up.

Unless Ahmaud had a hearing problem it is most likely he heard the phone call....just deductive reasoning.

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Persuader]

'Racism is, indeed, the national obsession. Universities are on full alert for it, newspapers and politicians denounce it, churches preach against it, America is said to be racked with it, but just what is racism?'

'the dictionary definition of racism is a clue to understanding what Americans do mean. A peculiarly American meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been declared to be equally talented and hard-working, and anyone who questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.'

What is Racism? - American Renaissance

Everyone talks about ‘racism’ but no one ever defines it.

www.amren.com

 

[Faun]

Unless Ahmaud had a hearing problem it is most likely he heard the phone call....just deductive reasoning.

No, it's not. The guy was not talking with a raised voice and was across the street. Arbery was inside the house and about 40 yards away.

There's no evidence he heard the guy, no less determined he was on the phone with 911.

 

[Faun]

'Racism is, indeed, the national obsession. Universities are on full alert for it, newspapers and politicians denounce it, churches preach against it, America is said to be racked with it, but just what is racism?'

'the dictionary definition of racism is a clue to understanding what Americans do mean. A peculiarly American meaning derives from the current dogma that all ethnic stocks are equal. Despite clear evidence to the contrary, all races have been declared to be equally talented and hard-working, and anyone who questions the dogma is thought to be not merely wrong but evil.'

Yeah, imagine in a country which allowed slavery and almost split up over slavery, racism is a national obsession. Who could have expected that?

 

[Persuader]

Yeah, imagine in a country which allowed slavery and almost split up over slavery, racism is a national obsession. Who could have expected that?

Slavery at that time was legal and had been practiced for thousands of years.

It is still practiced in parts of Africa, some Arab nations and in China.

Irregardless the McMichaels are innocent.

 

[Faun]

Slavery at that time was legal and had been practiced for thousands of years.

It is still practiced in parts of Africa, some Arab nations and in China.

Irregardless the McMichaels are innocent.

I only got as far as the bullshit claims Arbery was committing criminal trespassing and that it was lawful for the McMichaels to engage in a citizens arrest.

Both are false statements so that article is wrong before it ever gets to the altercation.

Criminal trespass in Georgia requires the trespasser intentionally causes damage of $500 or less. There's no evidence Arbery did that; OR enters the property for an unlawful purpose. There's no evidence Arbery did that; OR enters the property after being properly informed not to enter. There’s no evidence that occurred; OR refusing to leave the property after being properly asked to leave. There's no evidence that occurred either.

So there's no evidence Arbery committed criminal trespass.

As far as them lawfully engaging in a citizens arrest, that too is a fail as they were not. Georgia law requires to enforce a citizens arrest, the arresting citizen must have either witnessed a felony or at least have an immediate knowledge of a felony. The McMichaels had neither. First and foremost, there's no evidence Arbery committed any crime being on that property. But even if there was and he had committed criminal trespassing, that's only a misdemeanor in Georgia, not a felony. So no, the law did not allow them to engage in a citizens arrest.

 

[Persuader]

The defense team in the McMichaels case should put in a request for a change of Venue.

Too much pressure is being put on this small town....the intensity of the national spotlight on such a small town could result in a miscarriage of justice.

To insure a fair trial it should be moved to a different town where the residents have not been under such pressure and the intense glare of National publicity.

Death threats are sure to follow....jurors should not be subjected to such pressure.

Former cop lays out known facts in Ahmaud Arbery shooting, before drawing his own conclusion

Former cop Brandon Tatum lays out the known facts in Ahmaud Arbery shooting, before drawing his own conclusion about murder charges.

www.bizpacreview.com

 

[SavannahMann]

The defense team in the McMichaels case should put in a request for a change of Venue.

Too much pressure is being put on this small town....the intensity of the national spotlight on such a small town could result in a miscarriage of justice.

To insure a fair trial it should be moved to a different town where the residents have not been under such pressure and the intense glare of National publicity.

Death threats are sure to follow....jurors should not be subjected to such pressure.

Former cop lays out known facts in Ahmaud Arbery shooting, before drawing his own conclusion

Former cop Brandon Tatum lays out the known facts in Ahmaud Arbery shooting, before drawing his own conclusion about murder charges.

www.bizpacreview.com

I swear I am going to put this stuff on a hot key.

First, the McMichaels had no reason to suspect a crime had been committed by Arbury. Your Tuscan cop is an idiot. Six whole years as a cop, in Arizona, commenting on Georgia Law. He doesn’t live in Georgia, or understand Georgia Law. So let’s start with the idea that the McMichaels had every right to intimate a Citizens Arrest.

Winn-Dixie Stores v. Nichols

Winn-Dixie Stores v. Nichols - 205 Ga. App. 308, 422 S.E.2d 209

law.justia.com

That is the applicable decision from the Appeals Court in Georgia. In it the Court determined that there were only specific people who had the authority to enact a Citizens Arrest. The victim of a crime. Or a designated representative such as a store manager. There was no authority to effect a citizens arrest by anyone else. Period.

So the McMichaels would have to have something in writing before the events of that day empowering them to act as agents of the property owner. They had nothing.

So the Citizens Arrest Attempt was actually a completely different thing. It was Attempted False Imprisonment under Georgia Law.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 5 - CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON :: ARTICLE 3 - KIDNAPPING, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, AND RELATED OFFENSES :: § 16-5-41 - False imprisonment

law.justia.com

That is a Felony under Georgia Law. Odd that your Tuscan Cop hadn’t heard of it. That law by the way is what makes a Citizens Arrest a bet your life moment. If you are right and the guy is a crook you caught legally in the commission of a crime. You’re golden. If he isn’t, you don’t get to worry about the lawsuit until after your trial on Felony Charges.

Now, the last leg of his asinine post. The Trespassing. Guess what. As has been pointed out many times here. Arbury wasn’t breaking the law there either.

Georgia Trespassing 101

In one way or another we encounter sign posts with the above inscriptions posted on fences and trees. But what do those words mean? What does criminal trespassi

bixonlaw.com

Wandering, strolling, and walking around a private property which doesn’t have expressed prohibition to enter it do not amount to trespassing unless the person enters the property with unlawful purpose.

So your Tuscan Cop, is as wrong as he can be on this issue. Let me repeat that. He’s wrong.

A change of venue wouldn’t help the McMichaels. The District they are in is solidly republican. And the Defense hopes to get Trump Supporters on the Jury. A change of Venue is liable to end up in Savannah, Macon, Atlanta, or even Augusta. Places where the likelihood of such supporters on the Jury, is much much lower.

So on that day, there were crimes committed. But none of the crimes were committed by Arbury. And if you doubt that, realize that the District Attorney who didn’t follow the law, is facing charges. She tried to help her former employee. She’s looking at her own time in Georgia Prison.

The McMichaels claim there was a lot of crime in the neighborhood. But we can’t seem to find records of this crime. Nobody called in any burglary reports. Well there was one, Travis called in one where he reported a gun stolen from his truck.

Arbury was jogging. He jogged through the neighborhood regularly. Nearly every day.

All of the “information”, “Facts”, and “proof”, of the McMichaels innocence is without any evidence or basis in law.

The law isn’t what you want it to be. It isn’t what you think it should be. And it might be very different than you are used to in your States.

Now, the Defense might be getting the jury they want.

8 potential jurors advance in Ahmaud Arbery slaying trial

By RUSS BYNUM Associated Press

www.wfmj.com

It would seem that those determined for an impartial Jury Trial would object to friends of the Defendants being on the Jury. Or is it OK now?

 

[harmonica]

Stuff was stolen from the construction site before? Really? And someone thought that Arbury was toting a Skill Saw in his shorts?

Smann--HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHH you hate law-order and cops....SMann thinks he's perfect .......he's the PERFECT human ----that's what you say in your posts

 

[SavannahMann]

Smann--HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHH you hate law-order and cops....SMann thinks he's perfect .......he's the PERFECT human ----that's what you say in your posts

One doesn’t have to be perfect to know that there were no reports of stolen items at the construction site.

 

[harmonica]

SavannahMann and you claim to be Rambo!!!!!! the perfect badass soldier.....you cooked hot dogs probably

 

[Superbadbrutha]

of course he should and why he should have ran any direction but right at them,,

Tell me dumbass how many human beings can outrun a car or truck.

of course he knew they wanted to talk so he could have just stopped and stood there

How would he know that?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

bwaaaaaaaaaaa I have known a few real Africans....they are always very polite, cheerful, respectful and very witty.

No chip on their shoulder and willing to work hard to become successful.

In other words they were submissive, because I am the white man.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

no evidence of that...he might have brushed up against the truck whilst running.

You 2 racist assclowns don't have a clue or wait you do have clue you just hope no one else does.

Bryan also got into his vehicle and attempted to use it to block Arbery's path several times, Dial said. He said Bryan allegedly struck Arbery during the pursuit hard enough that it left a dent in his vehicle.

Ahmaud Arbery was struck by vehicle before he was shot dead; suspect yelled racial slur: Investigator

The victim was shot three times in Feb. 23 attack.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Superbadbrutha]

No the Sr. mcmichalel recognized him from a video of the trespasser.

Which means he didn't see him committing a crime and therefore had NO authority to try and detain him. I hope these 3 racist, redneck cowards get the needle.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

lots of things that can get you killed are legal,,

Being a black man is not one of them anymore.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Well, no one knows at what point ahmaud first saw the weapon....but whenever it was he showed no fear of it...just kept on jogging towards the white guys.....maybe he was having another hallucination did not realize he was operating in real time.

You do know they came at him from 2 different directions.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

so he could have ran sideways and not limited to front or back,,

got it,,

as I said he had 364 directions other than right at them,,

Have you ever been in that situation? It's amazing how you seem to know where and how he could have run.