Ahmadinejad Demands Apology for U.S. 'Crimes'

[RodISHI]

TEHRAN, Iran — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for "profound changes" in U.S. foreign policy, including giving up support for Israel on Wednesday during an address to thousands of people in the western city of Kermanshah.

President Obama on Tuesday, in an interview with Arabic television, called for more dialogue with Iran to express difference and see "where there are potential avenues for progress."

"We welcome change but on condition that change is fundamental and on the right track," Ahmadinejad said. "When they say 'we want to make changes', change can happen in two ways. First is a fundamental and effective change... The second ... is a change of tactics."

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Poll shourld be attached.. Will obamalama apologize or not?

We should hope not.

When seeing pictures of Ahmadinejad he reminds me of a rat.

 

[WillowTree]

TEHRAN, Iran — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for "profound changes" in U.S. foreign policy, including giving up support for Israel on Wednesday during an address to thousands of people in the western city of Kermanshah.

President Obama on Tuesday, in an interview with Arabic television, called for more dialogue with Iran to express difference and see "where there are potential avenues for progress."

"We welcome change but on condition that change is fundamental and on the right track," Ahmadinejad said. "When they say 'we want to make changes', change can happen in two ways. First is a fundamental and effective change... The second ... is a change of tactics."

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Poll shourld be attached.. Will obamalama apologize or not?

We should hope not.

When seeing pictures of Ahmadinejad he reminds me of a rat.

persactly

 

[WillowTree]

Ahmadinejad is a True friend of the Jewish people and Judaism

That is why the evil secular Zionists try to discredit him and his ideas.

he's the very one they coined the phrase "With friends like that who needs an effen enemy" for. yepsirreee!

 

[Gurdari]

The only apology we owe Iran is an apology for the installation of the Shah and for aiding Saddam of Iraq in his war against Iran.

As far as Isreal goes, that is really not Iran's business.

And I'd be holding off on any apology until they agree to apologise for the hostage crises.

They'd damned lucky that Carter was POTUS at the time, because some of the people in this nation who might have been POTUS would have turned Iran into a sheet of glass instead of putting up with that childish crap.

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?

 

[Tech_Esq]

The only apology we owe Iran is an apology for the installation of the Shah and for aiding Saddam of Iraq in his war against Iran.

As far as Isreal goes, that is really not Iran's business.

And I'd be holding off on any apology until they agree to apologise for the hostage crises.

They'd damned lucky that Carter was POTUS at the time, because some of the people in this nation who might have been POTUS would have turned Iran into a sheet of glass instead of putting up with that childish crap.

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?

These are foolish statements. What was the character of the government we "overthrew"? How would we react? Depends on the government doesn't it. This one? Don't tempt me.

You understand, of course, that even if Iran developed some rudimentary nuclear capacity, we would still be able to turn them into a sheet of glass while sustaining no real harm ourselves.

What Iran needs to understand is that Israel is the holder of a nuclear stockpile only less than the US and Russia. They have a mini-superpower in their midst and the sooner they leave the state of denial and start dealing with that, the safer we will all be. Israel has a nuclear triad strategy, like the US. The have bomber based nukes, Missile launched nukes and Submarine based nukes on 4 diesel subs that the Germans gave them. (And a nuclear stockpile of 100 - 300 nuclear warheads.) That means the Arab/Persian states cannot ever win period.

 

[WillowTree]

The only apology we owe Iran is an apology for the installation of the Shah and for aiding Saddam of Iraq in his war against Iran.

As far as Isreal goes, that is really not Iran's business.

And I'd be holding off on any apology until they agree to apologise for the hostage crises.

They'd damned lucky that Carter was POTUS at the time, because some of the people in this nation who might have been POTUS would have turned Iran into a sheet of glass instead of putting up with that childish crap.

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?[/QUOTE]


Yes, so I'm sure you will stand behind us with Israel as they defend themselves.. Yes.

 

[Tech_Esq]

"We welcome change but on condition that change is fundamental and on the right track,"

Hmmm...AckIneedajob says, fine Bama, if you don't have any pre-conditions, I do. Will we meet Iran's pre-conditions for direct discussions?

Let's see, first we apologize. Check, maybe. How much different would an apology sound than the, "we have made mistakes in the past...." answer that had gave to the Arab media.

Then we stop supporting Israel. Let's see Rahm Emanual is still chief of staff right? Israel still has a shit load of nuke right? Nope, not doing that one.

Withdraw all US forces from Iraq and Afghanistan. Uh...check and not yet?

Guess Iran won't be talking to us anytime soon.

 

[Munin]

Ahmadinejad is a True friend of the Jewish people and Judaism

That is why the evil secular Zionists try to discredit him and his ideas.

Now seriously, whose side are you on?
Are you constantly using sarcasm?

 

[Sunni Man]

Ahmadinejad is a True friend of the Jewish people and Judaism

That is why the evil secular Zionists try to discredit him and his ideas.

Now seriously, whose side are you on?
Are you constantly using sarcasm?

I am on the side of truth and justice for humanity.

Just because our media says alot of derogatoy things about a person, doesn't mean they are telling the truth.

 

[manu1959]

Ahmadinejad is a True friend of the Jewish people and Judaism

That is why the evil secular Zionists try to discredit him and his ideas.

Now seriously, whose side are you on?
Are you constantly using sarcasm?

I am on the side of truth and justice for humanity.

Just because our media says alot of derogatoy things about a person, doesn't mean they are telling the truth.

so ameandude has israels best intrests at heart.....

 

[Sunni Man]

Now seriously, whose side are you on?
Are you constantly using sarcasm?

I am on the side of truth and justice for humanity.

Just because our media says alot of derogatoy things about a person, doesn't mean they are telling the truth.

so ameandude has israels best intrests at heart.....

Don't act stupid

No leader of any country puts another countries intrests ahead of their own country

 

[manu1959]

I am on the side of truth and justice for humanity.

Just because our media says alot of derogatoy things about a person, doesn't mean they are telling the truth.

so ameandude has israels best intrests at heart.....

Don't act stupid

No leader of any country puts another countries intrests ahead of their own country

american presidents do it all the time.....

 

[editec]

The only apology we owe Iran is an apology for the installation of the Shah and for aiding Saddam of Iraq in his war against Iran.

As far as Isreal goes, that is really not Iran's business.

And I'd be holding off on any apology until they agree to apologise for the hostage crises.

They'd damned lucky that Carter was POTUS at the time, because some of the people in this nation who might have been POTUS would have turned Iran into a sheet of glass instead of putting up with that childish crap.

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?

These are foolish statements. What was the character of the government we "overthrew"? How would we react? Depends on the government doesn't it. This one? Don't tempt me.

You understand, of course, that even if Iran developed some rudimentary nuclear capacity, we would still be able to turn them into a sheet of glass while sustaining no real harm ourselves.

What Iran needs to understand is that Israel is the holder of a nuclear stockpile only less than the US and Russia. They have a mini-superpower in their midst and the sooner they leave the state of denial and start dealing with that, the safer we will all be. Israel has a nuclear triad strategy, like the US. The have bomber based nukes, Missile launched nukes and Submarine based nukes on 4 diesel subs that the Germans gave them. (And a nuclear stockpile of 100 - 300 nuclear warheads.) That means the Arab/Persian states cannot ever win period.

As it related to the installation of a monarchical SHAH of Iran our motivations were fairly obvious.

There was absolutely NO THREAT that Iran was going communist. None!

Iran was nationalizing its oil and BRITIAN didn't like it.

Their American cousins in the CIA pulled off a brilliant antidemocratic coupe d' etat to insure that the Brits would continue to have a very sweet oil agreement with Iran.

The hostage crises happened over two decades later, folks.

And what was the Ayatollah's excuse for that?

His excuse was that we gave the Shah medical treatement in the USA.

 

[strollingbones]

The only apology we owe Iran is an apology for the installation of the Shah and for aiding Saddam of Iraq in his war against Iran.

As far as Isreal goes, that is really not Iran's business.

And I'd be holding off on any apology until they agree to apologise for the hostage crises.

They'd damned lucky that Carter was POTUS at the time, because some of the people in this nation who might have been POTUS would have turned Iran into a sheet of glass instead of putting up with that childish crap.

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?

did you read the article in the "smithsonian" on this? the major points you made were made in the smithsonian...the one with stonehedge on the cover.

 

[rayboyusmc]

Oh he already DID! He stated in the interview with his Arab Brothers that 'the US had made mistakes... and that the US has failed to listen to Muslims...'

He won't apologize to Iran and as usual Pogo is full of fecal filling.

P.S. He is of African descent not Arab. I know for you Pogo, that doesn't mean anything, but to real people it does. Remember there are more lefty Americans than Rightie.

Nope, we have never made a mistake.

Hey, I just noticed there is a spell checker. Thanks.

 

[editec]

The only apology we owe Iran is an apology for the installation of the Shah and for aiding Saddam of Iraq in his war against Iran.

As far as Isreal goes, that is really not Iran's business.

And I'd be holding off on any apology until they agree to apologise for the hostage crises.

They'd damned lucky that Carter was POTUS at the time, because some of the people in this nation who might have been POTUS would have turned Iran into a sheet of glass instead of putting up with that childish crap.

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?

did you read the article in the "smithsonian" on this? the major points you made were made in the smithsonian...the one with stonehedge on the cover.

The Iranian coupe d' etat staged by the CIA in '53 was also well outlined in the book [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-History-Tim-Weiner/dp/038551445X"]Legacy of Ashes[/ame] .

For those of you who are, like me, extremely interested in supporting the idea that the USA truly needs to get an effective intelligence agency, you will find this book most illuminating.

The CIA apparently can do some things (like overthrowing fledgling democracies) very effectively, but fails to gather much useful intelligence which IS, after all, its real mission.

 

[GHook93]

If he apologize then he is crystal clear that he is a member of the far left! How can anyone argue against it. The far left thing America is the source of the world's problems and we need to apologize to tyranical, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, suppressive and intolerant regimes like Iran, North Korea and Venezuela!

The left is amazing!

 

[Munin]

Ahmadinejad is a True friend of the Jewish people and Judaism

That is why the evil secular Zionists try to discredit him and his ideas.

Now seriously, whose side are you on?
Are you constantly using sarcasm?

I am on the side of truth and justice for humanity.

Just because our media says alot of derogatoy things about a person, doesn't mean they are telling the truth.

And what if he says it himself? Are you sure you re not using sarcasm again?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo]YouTube - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: "Death to Israel"[/ame]

err, we re both talking about this guy right?

 

[Sunni Man]

Ahmadinejad said nothing in the video about the Jewish people or Judiasm

Again, he is opposed to the illegal state of Israel and the Zionist thugs who rule it.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Why not apologize for doing things you think are wrong?
Overthrowing a democratic government sounds wrong... no?

Maybe the hostage crisis was a reaction to US involvement in their nation?

How would any of us react to a nation that overthrew our gov?


As for "Iran into a sheet of glass " that sounds like a great reason for Iran to make sure it has a nuclear deterrent... if it will be dealing with a well-armed nuclear weapon holding nation that has no qualms about attacking other countries, or messing with their internal affairs...

What nation wouldn't try to protect themself?

These are foolish statements. What was the character of the government we "overthrew"? How would we react? Depends on the government doesn't it. This one? Don't tempt me.

You understand, of course, that even if Iran developed some rudimentary nuclear capacity, we would still be able to turn them into a sheet of glass while sustaining no real harm ourselves.

What Iran needs to understand is that Israel is the holder of a nuclear stockpile only less than the US and Russia. They have a mini-superpower in their midst and the sooner they leave the state of denial and start dealing with that, the safer we will all be. Israel has a nuclear triad strategy, like the US. The have bomber based nukes, Missile launched nukes and Submarine based nukes on 4 diesel subs that the Germans gave them. (And a nuclear stockpile of 100 - 300 nuclear warheads.) That means the Arab/Persian states cannot ever win period.

As it related to the installation of a monarchical SHAH of Iran our motivations were fairly obvious.

There was absolutely NO THREAT that Iran was going communist. None!

Iran was nationalizing its oil and BRITIAN didn't like it.

Their American cousins in the CIA pulled off a brilliant antidemocratic coupe d' etat to insure that the Brits would continue to have a very sweet oil agreement with Iran.

The hostage crises happened over two decades later, folks.

And what was the Ayatollah's excuse for that?

His excuse was that we gave the Shah medical treatement in the USA.

Sigh... I hate it when this happens. You actually forced me to go look it up. You are absolutely butchering history. I'm not even talking about the controversial part. But, before you go any further in talking about who put whom out and who might be in the right, you need to go look at what actually happened.

Briefly, during all times in question, the Shah was the Shah. Nobody "put" the Shah there.

The Shah appointed Mosaddeq as premier. Mossaddeq attempted to exceed his authority by appoint important officers which had always been appointed by the Shah. The Shah said no. (This was post nationalization). Mossaddeq resigned. The Shah appointed a new premier. His policies were not popular and there was a general strike. To bring calm, the Shah reappointed Mossaddeq. Mossaddeq, now more politically empowered, expanded his grasp beyond anything an Iranian Prime Minister had ever done before.

Now we get to the coup part.

As usual things are not as cut and dried as we would like to make them. Who should be supported? The Shah or someone appointed by the Shah who was exceeding his authority and acting erratically?

What was erratic? The nationalization of oil was reckless. Basically, it would be like the US got pissed a Toyota and just took over all the assets of Toyota in the US and told them to get stuffed. Japan might not like that and might have something to say about it. As did the British when Iran nationalized BP. They took it to the UN. They finally removed their technicians. Iran couldn't operate the oil fields by themselves.

Leaving the history lesson aside, in 1948, Truman announces the Containment Policy. The Iranian Coup occurs in August 1953. Seven months into Eisenhower's first term. What is it that you are suggesting about Eisenhower?