Moonglow
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I did a lot of pranks at school, church or my neighborhood....I was always looked to as the culprit when something occurred...They used to cal it being a boy, now they call it criminal behavior...
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How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.You're 110% correct. Teachers become teachers because in most states, the benefits are attractive. They aren't really interested in preparing kids for the future. In most cases, our kids learn because they really want to, and because they understand the importance of an education better than the teachers do.Yep, I was questioned many times for information about pranks, "children pranks", but never questioned like I was a criminal. We were kids, and kids are doing crazy and stupid things. We've all misbehaved growing up. That's what being a child is. But, we never did anything to be treated like criminals, and schools never subjected us to harsh questioning as though we had committed terrible criminal activities. The worst thing they did was call our parents. That was real punishment.We used to be so bad in art class. When someone had done something terrible (like poked holes in peoples' sculptures, put paint on a sponge and threw it on the ceiling, threw paint under the door and onto someone's shoes, put wet clay in someones backback or the substitute teacher's purse, or painted a demon on the wall lol) the teacher would take us outside one by one, interogating us and extracting as many details from us as she could. Most of the time she was able to discover who the culprit was lmao
I agree, thanks for sharing. Schools have changed so much since my days in the classroom ( 1953 - 1965 ). My grandkids tell me things that's hard to believe. And, people wonder why we lag behind other nations in education.As an insider who quit in disgust, I can tell you, education is not in the top five concerns of public education.It seems schools are not confined to teaching our children, and are now broadening their scope of duties.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers
Extracting confessions through this method is only worsening the school-to-prison pipeline.
Adult interrogation methods do not belong in the classroom, so why are school administrators throughout the United States being trained to use them on their students in order to extract confessions?
John E. Reid & Associates is the largest interrogation trainer in the world and teaches such methods to hundreds of school administrators each year. Last month, members of the Illinois Principals Association, for instance, could register for a “professional development” event on “Investigative Interviewing and Active Persuasion." The School Administrators Association of New York State recently offered a workshop for administrators on this same topic, titled “Are you Sure They Are Telling the Truth”?
These administrators are learning the “Reid Technique,” which relies on "maximization” and “minimization" tactics in order to induce suspects to confess. Minimization focuses on reducing a suspect’s feelings of guilt, while maximization is designed to heighten suspect anxiety using confrontation. Both techniques are legal and both are incredibly coercive.
Controlled studies of Reid interrogation have documented that while such techniques may increase the likelihood that a guilty person will confess, they also increase the likelihood that an innocent person will as well. New research released in February found that the Reid technique causes witnesses to falsely implicate others.
Reid & Associates itself advises caution when using the technique on children, especially in schools. In addition to concerns about the efficacy of principal-administered interrogations are those involving basic fairness: school administrators are not required to issue Miranda warnings to children they interrogate on their own (without law enforcement present), so children are not advised of their rights to an attorney or to remain silent.
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What have we allowed to happen to this country? I remember when schools were concerned only with education.
1. Indoctrination into the politics of dependency.
2. Anti-drug propaganda.
3. Social engineering.
4. Gender confusion.
5. Building compliant "citizens".
Somewhere along the line, some teaching takes place.
The proof is in the pudding.
We are a nation of semi-literate dumbasses.
Our high school grads all know how to place a condom on a banana, but, leave without the means of earning the price of either.
Bullshit
How many years did you teach in public schools?As an insider who quit in disgust, I can tell you, education is not in the top five concerns of public education.It seems schools are not confined to teaching our children, and are now broadening their scope of duties.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers
Extracting confessions through this method is only worsening the school-to-prison pipeline.
Adult interrogation methods do not belong in the classroom, so why are school administrators throughout the United States being trained to use them on their students in order to extract confessions?
John E. Reid & Associates is the largest interrogation trainer in the world and teaches such methods to hundreds of school administrators each year. Last month, members of the Illinois Principals Association, for instance, could register for a “professional development” event on “Investigative Interviewing and Active Persuasion." The School Administrators Association of New York State recently offered a workshop for administrators on this same topic, titled “Are you Sure They Are Telling the Truth”?
These administrators are learning the “Reid Technique,” which relies on "maximization” and “minimization" tactics in order to induce suspects to confess. Minimization focuses on reducing a suspect’s feelings of guilt, while maximization is designed to heighten suspect anxiety using confrontation. Both techniques are legal and both are incredibly coercive.
Controlled studies of Reid interrogation have documented that while such techniques may increase the likelihood that a guilty person will confess, they also increase the likelihood that an innocent person will as well. New research released in February found that the Reid technique causes witnesses to falsely implicate others.
Reid & Associates itself advises caution when using the technique on children, especially in schools. In addition to concerns about the efficacy of principal-administered interrogations are those involving basic fairness: school administrators are not required to issue Miranda warnings to children they interrogate on their own (without law enforcement present), so children are not advised of their rights to an attorney or to remain silent.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers Alternet
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What have we allowed to happen to this country? I remember when schools were concerned only with education.
1. Indoctrination into the politics of dependency.
2. Anti-drug propaganda.
3. Social engineering.
4. Gender confusion.
5. Building compliant "citizens".
Somewhere along the line, some teaching takes place.
Gross overstatement
I did a lot of pranks at school, church or my neighborhood....I was always looked to as the culprit when something occurred...They used to cal it being a boy, now they call it criminal behavior...
Yes, if it wasn't cherry bombs it was smoke bombs....I did a lot of pranks at school, church or my neighborhood....I was always looked to as the culprit when something occurred...They used to cal it being a boy, now they call it criminal behavior...
What we did with fireworks at school for shits and giggles would be called terrorism today.
I get why you did this, but to me, a person choosing to clam up only gives the other person or people involved a reason to go digging for whatever it is that they are looking for and if something is being hidden, how would you rather it be exposed?I've already counseled my kids on the importance of not being a rat, a stool pigeon or divulging anything personal to officials in school, the public or police.
How many years did you teach in public schools?As an insider who quit in disgust, I can tell you, education is not in the top five concerns of public education.It seems schools are not confined to teaching our children, and are now broadening their scope of duties.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers
Extracting confessions through this method is only worsening the school-to-prison pipeline.
Adult interrogation methods do not belong in the classroom, so why are school administrators throughout the United States being trained to use them on their students in order to extract confessions?
John E. Reid & Associates is the largest interrogation trainer in the world and teaches such methods to hundreds of school administrators each year. Last month, members of the Illinois Principals Association, for instance, could register for a “professional development” event on “Investigative Interviewing and Active Persuasion." The School Administrators Association of New York State recently offered a workshop for administrators on this same topic, titled “Are you Sure They Are Telling the Truth”?
These administrators are learning the “Reid Technique,” which relies on "maximization” and “minimization" tactics in order to induce suspects to confess. Minimization focuses on reducing a suspect’s feelings of guilt, while maximization is designed to heighten suspect anxiety using confrontation. Both techniques are legal and both are incredibly coercive.
Controlled studies of Reid interrogation have documented that while such techniques may increase the likelihood that a guilty person will confess, they also increase the likelihood that an innocent person will as well. New research released in February found that the Reid technique causes witnesses to falsely implicate others.
Reid & Associates itself advises caution when using the technique on children, especially in schools. In addition to concerns about the efficacy of principal-administered interrogations are those involving basic fairness: school administrators are not required to issue Miranda warnings to children they interrogate on their own (without law enforcement present), so children are not advised of their rights to an attorney or to remain silent.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers Alternet
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What have we allowed to happen to this country? I remember when schools were concerned only with education.
1. Indoctrination into the politics of dependency.
2. Anti-drug propaganda.
3. Social engineering.
4. Gender confusion.
5. Building compliant "citizens".
Somewhere along the line, some teaching takes place.
Gross overstatement
How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.You're 110% correct. Teachers become teachers because in most states, the benefits are attractive. They aren't really interested in preparing kids for the future. In most cases, our kids learn because they really want to, and because they understand the importance of an education better than the teachers do.Yep, I was questioned many times for information about pranks, "children pranks", but never questioned like I was a criminal. We were kids, and kids are doing crazy and stupid things. We've all misbehaved growing up. That's what being a child is. But, we never did anything to be treated like criminals, and schools never subjected us to harsh questioning as though we had committed terrible criminal activities. The worst thing they did was call our parents. That was real punishment.We used to be so bad in art class. When someone had done something terrible (like poked holes in peoples' sculptures, put paint on a sponge and threw it on the ceiling, threw paint under the door and onto someone's shoes, put wet clay in someones backback or the substitute teacher's purse, or painted a demon on the wall lol) the teacher would take us outside one by one, interogating us and extracting as many details from us as she could. Most of the time she was able to discover who the culprit was lmao
I agree, thanks for sharing. Schools have changed so much since my days in the classroom ( 1953 - 1965 ). My grandkids tell me things that's hard to believe. And, people wonder why we lag behind other nations in education.As an insider who quit in disgust, I can tell you, education is not in the top five concerns of public education.
1. Indoctrination into the politics of dependency.
2. Anti-drug propaganda.
3. Social engineering.
4. Gender confusion.
5. Building compliant "citizens".
Somewhere along the line, some teaching takes place.
The proof is in the pudding.
We are a nation of semi-literate dumbasses.
Our high school grads all know how to place a condom on a banana, but, leave without the means of earning the price of either.
Bullshit
How many years did you teach in public schools?As an insider who quit in disgust, I can tell you, education is not in the top five concerns of public education.It seems schools are not confined to teaching our children, and are now broadening their scope of duties.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers
Extracting confessions through this method is only worsening the school-to-prison pipeline.
Adult interrogation methods do not belong in the classroom, so why are school administrators throughout the United States being trained to use them on their students in order to extract confessions?
John E. Reid & Associates is the largest interrogation trainer in the world and teaches such methods to hundreds of school administrators each year. Last month, members of the Illinois Principals Association, for instance, could register for a “professional development” event on “Investigative Interviewing and Active Persuasion." The School Administrators Association of New York State recently offered a workshop for administrators on this same topic, titled “Are you Sure They Are Telling the Truth”?
These administrators are learning the “Reid Technique,” which relies on "maximization” and “minimization" tactics in order to induce suspects to confess. Minimization focuses on reducing a suspect’s feelings of guilt, while maximization is designed to heighten suspect anxiety using confrontation. Both techniques are legal and both are incredibly coercive.
Controlled studies of Reid interrogation have documented that while such techniques may increase the likelihood that a guilty person will confess, they also increase the likelihood that an innocent person will as well. New research released in February found that the Reid technique causes witnesses to falsely implicate others.
Reid & Associates itself advises caution when using the technique on children, especially in schools. In addition to concerns about the efficacy of principal-administered interrogations are those involving basic fairness: school administrators are not required to issue Miranda warnings to children they interrogate on their own (without law enforcement present), so children are not advised of their rights to an attorney or to remain silent.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers Alternet
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What have we allowed to happen to this country? I remember when schools were concerned only with education.
1. Indoctrination into the politics of dependency.
2. Anti-drug propaganda.
3. Social engineering.
4. Gender confusion.
5. Building compliant "citizens".
Somewhere along the line, some teaching takes place.
Gross overstatement
Still at it, quitter.
How many years did you teach in public schools?As an insider who quit in disgust, I can tell you, education is not in the top five concerns of public education.It seems schools are not confined to teaching our children, and are now broadening their scope of duties.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers
Extracting confessions through this method is only worsening the school-to-prison pipeline.
Adult interrogation methods do not belong in the classroom, so why are school administrators throughout the United States being trained to use them on their students in order to extract confessions?
John E. Reid & Associates is the largest interrogation trainer in the world and teaches such methods to hundreds of school administrators each year. Last month, members of the Illinois Principals Association, for instance, could register for a “professional development” event on “Investigative Interviewing and Active Persuasion." The School Administrators Association of New York State recently offered a workshop for administrators on this same topic, titled “Are you Sure They Are Telling the Truth”?
These administrators are learning the “Reid Technique,” which relies on "maximization” and “minimization" tactics in order to induce suspects to confess. Minimization focuses on reducing a suspect’s feelings of guilt, while maximization is designed to heighten suspect anxiety using confrontation. Both techniques are legal and both are incredibly coercive.
Controlled studies of Reid interrogation have documented that while such techniques may increase the likelihood that a guilty person will confess, they also increase the likelihood that an innocent person will as well. New research released in February found that the Reid technique causes witnesses to falsely implicate others.
Reid & Associates itself advises caution when using the technique on children, especially in schools. In addition to concerns about the efficacy of principal-administered interrogations are those involving basic fairness: school administrators are not required to issue Miranda warnings to children they interrogate on their own (without law enforcement present), so children are not advised of their rights to an attorney or to remain silent.
Adult Interrogation Tactics in Schools Are Turning Principals Into Police Officers Alternet
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What have we allowed to happen to this country? I remember when schools were concerned only with education.
1. Indoctrination into the politics of dependency.
2. Anti-drug propaganda.
3. Social engineering.
4. Gender confusion.
5. Building compliant "citizens".
Somewhere along the line, some teaching takes place.
Gross overstatement
Still at it, quitter.
How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.You're 110% correct. Teachers become teachers because in most states, the benefits are attractive. They aren't really interested in preparing kids for the future. In most cases, our kids learn because they really want to, and because they understand the importance of an education better than the teachers do.Yep, I was questioned many times for information about pranks, "children pranks", but never questioned like I was a criminal. We were kids, and kids are doing crazy and stupid things. We've all misbehaved growing up. That's what being a child is. But, we never did anything to be treated like criminals, and schools never subjected us to harsh questioning as though we had committed terrible criminal activities. The worst thing they did was call our parents. That was real punishment.I agree, thanks for sharing. Schools have changed so much since my days in the classroom ( 1953 - 1965 ). My grandkids tell me things that's hard to believe. And, people wonder why we lag behind other nations in education.
The proof is in the pudding.
We are a nation of semi-literate dumbasses.
Our high school grads all know how to place a condom on a banana, but, leave without the means of earning the price of either.
Bullshit
Because what you posted is not true, of course.
How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.You're 110% correct. Teachers become teachers because in most states, the benefits are attractive. They aren't really interested in preparing kids for the future. In most cases, our kids learn because they really want to, and because they understand the importance of an education better than the teachers do.The proof is in the pudding.
We are a nation of semi-literate dumbasses.
Our high school grads all know how to place a condom on a banana, but, leave without the means of earning the price of either.
Bullshit
Because what you posted is not true, of course.
I see. So, you're assuming that ALL teachers are like the ones you know? Well, I know some that are different from the ones you know. But, you have the right to express your opinion, and I respect your right to do so. When you have something to dispute what I have said, other than just an opinion, please let me know. Thanks.How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.You're 110% correct. Teachers become teachers because in most states, the benefits are attractive. They aren't really interested in preparing kids for the future. In most cases, our kids learn because they really want to, and because they understand the importance of an education better than the teachers do.
Bullshit
Because what you posted is not true, of course.
They hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of teachers I know and have worked with for decades.
Ben was smart. I agree with him 110%. Thanks for sharing.Obviously anybody who would seek to punish innocents has no place in this country.
"That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved; never, that I know of, controverted."
-- Benjamin Franklin; from letter to Benjamin Vaughn (March 14th, 1785)
I see. So, you're assuming that ALL teachers are like the ones you know? Well, I know some that are different from the ones you know. But, you have the right to express your opinion, and I respect your right to do so. When you have something to dispute what I have said, other than just an opinion, please let me know. Thanks.How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.Bullshit
Because what you posted is not true, of course.
They hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of teachers I know and have worked with for decades.
That's your opinion. And, as I stated earlier, you have the right to express it, and I respect your right to do so.I see. So, you're assuming that ALL teachers are like the ones you know? Well, I know some that are different from the ones you know. But, you have the right to express your opinion, and I respect your right to do so. When you have something to dispute what I have said, other than just an opinion, please let me know. Thanks.How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?How so? Please explain the why you think it's Bullshit. Thanks.
Because what you posted is not true, of course.
They hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of teachers I know and have worked with for decades.
I Have more than a large enough sample size of personal and professional experience to call bullshit on your categorical statement.
That's your opinion.I see. So, you're assuming that ALL teachers are like the ones you know? Well, I know some that are different from the ones you know. But, you have the right to express your opinion, and I respect your right to do so. When you have something to dispute what I have said, other than just an opinion, please let me know. Thanks.How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?Because what you posted is not true, of course.
They hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of teachers I know and have worked with for decades.
I Have more than a large enough sample size of personal and professional experience to call bullshit on your categorical statement.
I am curious, what subjects and grades do you teach?That's your opinion.I see. So, you're assuming that ALL teachers are like the ones you know? Well, I know some that are different from the ones you know. But, you have the right to express your opinion, and I respect your right to do so. When you have something to dispute what I have said, other than just an opinion, please let me know. Thanks.How do you know that it's not true? Do you have something to dispute it, or are you just expressing your opinion?
They hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of teachers I know and have worked with for decades.
I Have more than a large enough sample size of personal and professional experience to call bullshit on your categorical statement.
No, it's my direct, personal, extensive experience.