Adam Smith was a Marxist

[bripat9643]

Sweden doesn't have a higher standard of living than the U.S., and it's a misnomer to call Sweden "socialist." It's only slightly more socialist than the U.S.

The hell it doesn't: Quality of Life Index by Country 2015

And" 30 countries with best living standards - Rediff.com Business

Quality of Life Index is bullshit propaganda. It's mostly subjective. GDP in terms of PPP is an objective measure. Sweden loses by that score.

When presented with facts, lie and run away. That's you my little infant.

GDP in terms of PPP has always been the measure of a nations standard of living. Only leftwing propagandists use made-up yardsticks like "Quality of Life Index." If they came out ahead in GDP, they would use it. However, the fact is that their GDP sucks.

China's GDP is terrific, would you like to live there?

There is more to life than money, and yourself my little infant.

China's per capita GDP is $6,800. That's about 1/10th of our per capital GDP.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sweden has a Mixed Economy, and as far as you little morons are concerned, with tax rates as high as 50%, is Socialist.

Sweden has about the same ratio of private versus government ownership as does the USA. You lied when you claimed it a "socialist country." Sweden has and continues to reduce social welfare, at a time when Obama's regime in America is dramatically increasing the welfare state (and national debt.)

Don't you grasp that 90% of the shit you read on DailyKOS is flat out lies? Haven't you learned yet that when you repeat those lies here, you will be called on them and humiliated by the facts?

I don't read KOS, and you don't present facts, since you don't know any.

 

[bripat9643]

So Socialist nations are just stupid eh?

So, you are functionally illiterate and incapable of responding to the argument proffered?

I'll inform Sweden, and so many other European nations, all with higher standards of living than the US.

What percentage of the Swedish economy is owned by the state, you drooling moron?

Among the other lies of the left, that "Sweden is socialist" is common. Sweden has a market economy with a (declining) welfare state infrastructure.

Sweden has a Mixed Economy, and as far as you little morons are concerned, with tax rates as high as 50%, is Socialist.

The U.S. also has a mixed economy, and I probably have about 50% of my income taxed away by state and local governments. Does that make the U.S. socialist?

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The hell it doesn't: Quality of Life Index by Country 2015

And" 30 countries with best living standards - Rediff.com Business

Quality of Life Index is bullshit propaganda. It's mostly subjective. GDP in terms of PPP is an objective measure. Sweden loses by that score.

When presented with facts, lie and run away. That's you my little infant.

GDP in terms of PPP has always been the measure of a nations standard of living. Only leftwing propagandists use made-up yardsticks like "Quality of Life Index." If they came out ahead in GDP, they would use it. However, the fact is that their GDP sucks.

China's GDP is terrific, would you like to live there?

There is more to life than money, and yourself my little infant.

China's per capita GDP is $6,800. That's about 1/10th of our per capital GDP.

And that's not enough for you, that giant emerging economy that makes everything right down to your underpants? What a shame.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The U.S. was a lot higher on the list before Lord Obama ascended the throne.

Those sorts of "lists" are complete bullshit. Sweden (and Norway) are homogeneous societies. If the USA is rated excluding all ethnic minorities, then scores of life expectancy, education, etc. increase to match those of the Nordic states.

Why does this matter? Because the Nordic states HAVE NO ETHNIC MINORITES - simply stated, unless you are born to Swedish parents in Sweden - you are not Swedish. The USA with wide open borders absorbs millions of third world peasants each year. Infant mortality among Mexican peasants is high - even when they have waltzed across the border into California and Arizona.

The shit the Communists post is a deliberate distortion that ignores most of the metrics at work.

It is simply fraud.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So Socialist nations are just stupid eh?

So, you are functionally illiterate and incapable of responding to the argument proffered?

I'll inform Sweden, and so many other European nations, all with higher standards of living than the US.

What percentage of the Swedish economy is owned by the state, you drooling moron?

Among the other lies of the left, that "Sweden is socialist" is common. Sweden has a market economy with a (declining) welfare state infrastructure.

Sweden has a Mixed Economy, and as far as you little morons are concerned, with tax rates as high as 50%, is Socialist.

The U.S. also has a mixed economy, and I probably have about 50% of my income taxed away by state and local governments. Does that make the U.S. socialist?

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

No, you wouldn't even get close, but you can't do the math just the ideology: How much tax do we really pay

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The U.S. was a lot higher on the list before Lord Obama ascended the throne.

Those sorts of "lists" are complete bullshit. Sweden (and Norway) are homogeneous societies. If the USA is rated excluding all ethnic minorities, then scores of life expectancy, education, etc. increase to match those of the Nordic states.

Why does this matter? Because the Nordic states HAVE NO ETHNIC MINORITES - simply stated, unless you are born to Swedish parents in Sweden - you are not Swedish. The USA with wide open borders absorbs millions of third world peasants each year. Infant mortality among Mexican peasants is high - even when they have waltzed across the border into California and Arizona.

The shit the Communists post is a deliberate distortion that ignores most of the metrics at work.

It is simply fraud.

When presented with facts, spin, blame immigrants in an immigrant nation, and run away. Got it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And that's not enough for you, that giant emerging economy that makes everything right down to your underpants? What a shame.

Most Americans pay more than 50% of their income in some form of tax.

Sales, Liquor, Property, TTY, CCR, oh and now Fascist Care - at $50,000 a year.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And that's not enough for you, that giant emerging economy that makes everything right down to your underpants? What a shame.

Most Americans pay more than 50% of their income in some form of tax.

Sales, Liquor, Property, TTY, CCR, oh and now Fascist Care - at $50,000 a year.

No, they don't, not even close.

 

[bripat9643]

So, you are functionally illiterate and incapable of responding to the argument proffered?

What percentage of the Swedish economy is owned by the state, you drooling moron?

Among the other lies of the left, that "Sweden is socialist" is common. Sweden has a market economy with a (declining) welfare state infrastructure.

Sweden has a Mixed Economy, and as far as you little morons are concerned, with tax rates as high as 50%, is Socialist.

The U.S. also has a mixed economy, and I probably have about 50% of my income taxed away by state and local governments. Does that make the U.S. socialist?

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

No, you wouldn't even get close, but you can't do the math just the ideology: How much tax do we really pay

Hmmm, from your reference:

Total tax percentage potentially paid by the well above average US citizen, 2013 est. - 58.5% *​

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Dogma...

Fact on a Communist is like salt on a slug; you react violently.

In every market economy in the world - starvation is at best a myth. Not so the centrally planned economies you promote. Death by starvation remains a constant fact of life in nearly all Communist nations, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Cuba, North Korea, Burma. The third world Socialist nations are not much better. Nigeria, Cameroon, Liberia, Venezuela, et al.

What you Communists seek is to punish those whom your envy drives you to hate - and you're more than willing to slaughter hundreds of millions to get your revenge.

Neither. You pay a fair and living wage to those at the bottom.

Yet what you of the left deliver is a starving wage for those in the middle - as long as the middle suffers - then you are happy. You wage eternal war on the Bourgeoisie, the middle class.

I don't promote a Planned Economy, and never have. I promote a Mixed Economy, and have for decades. And I understand how spreading the wealth creates more wealth and that while capitalism is a great little engine you don't let the engine drive the car. If you weren't so full of yourself you would have known that but you are so insane about anyone who sounds even remotely Marxist that I created this thread just to show how people like you are bonkers and have no idea what they hell they are actually talking about.

Next time, just ask.

I see the little morons here ignored this post, as expected.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sweden has a Mixed Economy, and as far as you little morons are concerned, with tax rates as high as 50%, is Socialist.

The U.S. also has a mixed economy, and I probably have about 50% of my income taxed away by state and local governments. Does that make the U.S. socialist?

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

No, you wouldn't even get close, but you can't do the math just the ideology: How much tax do we really pay

Hmmm, from your reference:

Total tax percentage potentially paid by the well above average US citizen, 2013 est. - 58.5% *​

Link it or it's nonsense, which it likely already is since you posted it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

When presented with facts, spin, blame immigrants in an immigrant nation, and run away. Got it.

How would you know, all you have presented is fraud.

The USA has a per capita GDP which is 17% higher than Sweden - even with the absorption of 20 million Mexican peasants each decade, the USA exceeds the standard of living of Sweden by 17%

 

[bripat9643]

The U.S. also has a mixed economy, and I probably have about 50% of my income taxed away by state and local governments. Does that make the U.S. socialist?

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

No, you wouldn't even get close, but you can't do the math just the ideology: How much tax do we really pay

Hmmm, from your reference:

Total tax percentage potentially paid by the well above average US citizen, 2013 est. - 58.5% *​

Link it or it's nonsense, which it likely already is since you posted it.

It's from the source you posted, numskull.

 

[bripat9643]

The U.S. also has a mixed economy, and I probably have about 50% of my income taxed away by state and local governments. Does that make the U.S. socialist?

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

No, you wouldn't even get close, but you can't do the math just the ideology: How much tax do we really pay

Hmmm, from your reference:

Total tax percentage potentially paid by the well above average US citizen, 2013 est. - 58.5% *​

Link it or it's nonsense, which it likely already is since you posted it.

ROFL!

How much tax do we really pay

 

[PaintMyHouse]

When presented with facts, spin, blame immigrants in an immigrant nation, and run away. Got it.

How would you know, all you have presented is fraud.

The USA has a per capita GDP which is 17% higher than Sweden - even with the absorption of 20 million Mexican peasants each decade, the USA exceeds the standard of living of Sweden by 17%

What part about it's not all about money did you miss? Oh right, all the parts that actually matter in the end.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It is mixed, but not mixed enough and your tax bill is nothing like 50%, not even close.

Sure it is, when you add in State, local and federal taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes and all the other taxes.

No, you wouldn't even get close, but you can't do the math just the ideology: How much tax do we really pay

Hmmm, from your reference:

Total tax percentage potentially paid by the well above average US citizen, 2013 est. - 58.5% *​

Link it or it's nonsense, which it likely already is since you posted it.

It's from the source you posted, numskull.

I only looked at the rates, I can't help it that they can't do math.

And if you make 400K a year and are paying the full nearly 40%, good, I'd make it 50.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't promote a Planned Economy, and never have. I promote a Mixed Economy, and have for decades.

The Unites States already has a mixed economy, which despite your earlier lies, has a nearly identical ratio of public to private expenditure as the Nordic states you of the extreme left tout.

And I understand how spreading the wealth creates more wealth and that while capitalism is a great little engine you don't let the engine drive the car. If you weren't so full of yourself you would have known that but you are so insane about anyone who sounds even remotely Marxist that I created this thread just to show how people like you are bonkers and have no idea what they hell they are actually talking about.

Next time, just ask.

You offer to more evenly divide a greatly diminished pool of resources. Despite the fact that all segments of the American economy have enjoyed tremendous growth over the last half-century, you find the fact that the top has grown faster than the bottom to be a problem, and are more than willing to strip the gains from the bottom, for the pleasure of stripping the gains from the top.

Envy, rather than an increased standard of living, is what drives you.

As a capitalist, I don't care what a rich man has, I care only what I have. My life improves every year, as do the lives of those around me. The improvements are much slower under those like Barack Obama, but the march of a better life for everyone continues.

I understand that you are dedicated to stopping this.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What part about it's not all about money did you miss? Oh right, all the parts that actually matter in the end.

It's not about quantifiable fact, because facts fail to support the fiction You offer the same stale, subjective bullshit that's been floated for years.

Zimbabwe ranks highest on the Buga buga buga scale - so we should transform America into Zimbabwe.....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I understand that you are dedicated to stopping this.

I'm dedicated to making a decent, healthy, sane, secular society with rational economic and social policies that lead to a strong economy and a high standard of living without exploitation, and you little fuckers, all out for Jesus and Number One, are getting in my way so, get out of my fucking country, you don't belong here.