Act of Political retribution by the Right?

[Papageorgio]

No I don't know where I lied. Please tell me so I can clear this up. I feel like I'm arguing with a woman right now. "YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID!"

Honestly sweety, I don't. But I'm sorry whatever I said. LOL.

Lil *****.

It’s in this thread, funny that you can’t tell your lies from the truth. lol!

 

[sealybobo]

I drink one or two drinks a year. I don’t care about what Trump says, I don’t look up to him. But is sounds right for a druggie like yourself.

I do coke 1 or two times a year. I don't care what you say. He feels the same way about people who drink. He doesn't touch the stuff you ******* alcoholic loser.

 

[sealybobo]

It’s in this thread, funny that you can’t tell your lies from the truth. lol!

I don't even care anymore. You lied 2 weeks ago. Don't you remember? Can't you keep your lies straight? Your lies need to come out of the closet. LOL.

 

[Papageorgio]

I do coke 1 or two times a year. I don't care what you say. He feels the same way about people who drink. He doesn't touch the stuff you ******* alcoholic loser.

Got it you are a loser and projecting. Thanks!

 

[Papageorgio]

I don't even care anymore. You lied 2 weeks ago. Don't you remember? Can't you keep your lies straight? Your lies need to come out of the closet. LOL.

Play whatever game you want, I really don’t care, you lied and now all you got is to play silly kid games. It doesn’t matter to me, I just now know you lie and you don’t give a shit.

 

[sealybobo]

Play whatever game you want, I really don’t care, you lied and now all you got is to play silly kid games. It doesn’t matter to me, I just now know you lie and you don’t give a shit.

You lied. You're lying right now.

 

[Papageorgio]

You lied. You're lying right now.

If you say so, considering that you lied and only now you claim I did, it shows how dishonest you are. No wonder you and luckone stick up for one another.

 

[sealybobo]

If you say so, considering that you lied and only now you claim I did, it shows how dishonest you are. No wonder you and luckone stick up for one another.

I lied about lying.

 

[Papageorgio]

I lied about lying.

Good for you!

 

[Correll]

Are we seeing wages rise because illegals are gone? Nope. What we are seeing is problems. And the politicians led by trump will bring in more LEGAL immigrants to fix this. The days where a Publix employee can support a family are gone. You’re being duped.

1. Yes, we are seeing wages rise because illegals are STARTING TO BECOME GONE.

2. Your claim I am being "duped" is retarded. The choice is between trying with trump and giving up with your side. You are an asshole.

 

[sealybobo]

1. Yes, we are seeing wages rise because illegals are STARTING TO BECOME GONE.

2. Your claim I am being "duped" is retarded. The choice is between trying with trump and giving up with your side. You are an asshole.

No, you are not. There is no evidence of a widespread increase in uneducated blue-collar wages due to a decrease in the unauthorized immigrant population

Have you noticed the last couple days Trump has mentioned several times that he's going to start letting more legal immigrants in? Trust me, your wages aren't going to go up due to supply and demand. Trump will meet the corporations supply problem before uneducated blue collar workers will see a dime increase.

I mean I'm sure a landscaping company in your area who lost all their workers might be offering $1 more an hour to an American but now they are realizing they can't find work.

 

[Correll]

No, you are not. There is no evidence of a widespread increase in uneducated blue-collar wages due to a decrease in the unauthorized immigrant population

So, you're not denying the increase in average wages for blue collar wages, you are just denying that it has been tied conclusively to the deportations?

Please state your postion CLEARLY, so I can address it without you having the option of trying to weasel away from your position or playing retarded circular debating games.

Have you noticed the last couple days Trump has mentioned several times that he's going to start letting more legal immigrants in? Trust me, your wages aren't going to go up due to supply and demand. Trump will meet the corporations supply problem before uneducated blue collar workers will see a dime increase.

I am aware that the Tech Bros and big business have been making grounds on this issue and I admit that this is a defeat for MAGA.

On the other hand, one of the few valid counter arguments from your side is that Trump's policies are TOO FAST and that the transition from one model to a more American centric model will be hard to do and painful to large numbers of people.

If that is true, then a few areas of "tapping the brakes" might not be a bad thing.


I don't know.


Will you be honest and admit the above or will you just keeping attacking like a partisan bot?

I mean I'm sure a landscaping company in your area who lost all their workers might be offering $1 more an hour to an American but now they are realizing they can't find work.

My landscapers are two older white guys and they have been the same for quite some time. THey have the contracts for most of my neighbor hood.

I don't see why you think that they would suddenly lose jobs?

 

[sealybobo]

So, you're not denying the increase in average wages for blue collar wages, you are just denying that it has been tied conclusively to the deportations?

Please state your postion CLEARLY, so I can address it without you having the option of trying to weasel away from your position or playing retarded circular debating games.





I am aware that the Tech Bros and big business have been making grounds on this issue and I admit that this is a defeat for MAGA.

On the other hand, one of the few valid counter arguments from your side is that Trump's policies are TOO FAST and that the transition from one model to a more American centric model will be hard to do and painful to large numbers of people.

If that is true, then a few areas of "tapping the brakes" might not be a bad thing.


I don't know.


Will you be honest and admit the above or will you just keeping attacking like a partisan bot?




My landscapers are two older white guys and they have been the same for quite some time. THey have the contracts for most of my neighbor hood.

I don't see why you think that they would suddenly lose jobs?

I'm seeing two conflicting comments from AI

Yes, the US is experiencing a worker shortage, characterized by more open jobs than available workers, though this can feel counterintuitive to some individuals who are having difficulty finding jobs. The shortage is attributed to a combination of factors, including pandemic-related hesitations about returning to work, a lower labor force participation rate, an aging population, and reduced immigration levels.

But then I see

There are more Americans out of work than there are jobs open for the first time since April 2021​

And that's not good for labor.

 

[Correll]

I'm seeing two conflicting comments from AI

Yes, the US is experiencing a worker shortage, characterized by more open jobs than available workers, though this can feel counterintuitive to some individuals who are having difficulty finding jobs. The shortage is attributed to a combination of factors, including pandemic-related hesitations about returning to work, a lower labor force participation rate, an aging population, and reduced immigration levels.

But then I see

There are more Americans out of work than there are jobs open for the first time since April 2021​

And that's not good for labor.

DO YOU ADMIT THAT BLUE COLLAR WAGES ARE RISING?

 

[sealybobo]

DO YOU ADMIT THAT BLUE COLLAR WAGES ARE RISING?

They say they are but I am skeptical. They should be rising.

Let's put it this way. The job market is not good right now. Too many people looking and not enough companies hiring. Maybe on a farm that's not true but overall, this is not the kind of market where companies are paying more to keep and attract new employees. When the economy is good people job seek. When the economy is like this, they hug. People are job hugging.

But they say wages for uneducated blue collar workers are going up. That's what they are saying. Do I believe it? I take it with a grain of salt. I'd like to see it for myself locally but so far I'm not.

I did a search for Kroger

Kroger's pay varies significantly by role and location in 2024, with typical store positions averaging around $15-$18 per hour

Then I searched 2025 and this came up

• Retail Sales Associate: Around $13.32/hour

 

[Correll]

They say they are but I am skeptical. They should be rising.

Let's put it this way. The job market is not good right now. Too many people looking and not enough companies hiring. Maybe on a farm that's not true but overall, this is not the kind of market where companies are paying more to keep and attract new employees. When the economy is good people job seek. When the economy is like this, they hug. People are job hugging.

But they say wages for uneducated blue collar workers are going up. That's what they are saying. Do I believe it? I take it with a grain of salt. I'd like to see it for myself locally but so far I'm not.

I did a search for Kroger

Kroger's pay varies significantly by role and location in 2024, with typical store positions averaging around $15-$18 per hour

Then I searched 2025 and this came up

• Retail Sales Associate: Around $13.32/hour

If blue collar wages are rising (and time will tell if they really are)

then MAGA is working.

Do you admit that?

 

[sealybobo]

If blue collar wages are rising (and time will tell if they really are)

then MAGA is working.

Do you admit that?

Trump me dope, the people who control things will keep your wages down. Union membership for those people is the only solution.

1. Trump's going to start letting a lot more legal immigrants in. We need them. Or, the corporations need them. That'll keep wages down.

2. What Trump is doing is causing inflation.

As of October 2025, the cost of eggs, bananas, coffee, and beef varies based on market factors like inflation, supply chain issues, and tariffs. A summary of recent price information is provided below.

Grocery prices are rising as beef, coffee hit record highs​

• Grocery prices rose 0.6% in Aug., the fastest monthly pace in about 3 years
• Coffee prices are up nearly 21% over the past year
• The price of ground beef hit a record $6.32 per pound last month

Trump bragged he won on this issue. Now he's failing you. But to distract you, he's talking about his ballroom. Oh, and suing you for $230 million.

I wonder how much Trump will have made off this grift when it's all said and done? What do you think? He has already made $1 billion alone just on crypto. $230 million he's giving himself. Oh he says he's giving it to charity? That's what they all say. That's what the robber barons said when they took over the federal reserve in 1913. ******* suckers.

 

[Correll]

Trump me dope, the people who control things will keep your wages down. Union membership for those people is the only solution.

1. Trump's going to start letting a lot more legal immigrants in. We need them. Or, the corporations need them. That'll keep wages down.

We already discussed that. You don't believe the offical numbers. Fair enough.

I'm asking you IF the blue collar wages are rising, do you admit that that means that MAGA is working?

 

[sealybobo]

We already discussed that. You don't believe the offical numbers. Fair enough.

I'm asking you IF the blue collar wages are rising, do you admit that that means that MAGA is working?

If their wages are going up, sure? But not if inflation is going up. Not if those poor people now lose their healthcare or their healthcare costs go up.

 

[westwall]

I don't even care anymore. You lied 2 weeks ago. Don't you remember? Can't you keep your lies straight? Your lies need to come out of the closet. LOL.

Papagiorgio has never lied that I have ever seen. But you? You are a pathological liar.

It's who you are.