Abstinence 'is not realistic,' Palin's daughter says

[Care4all]

Well, the thing is, women that have abortions aren't saying they don't want children...they are just saying they aren't ready.

then why did, the majority of them anyhow,have unprotected sex?if your not ready you would take the RESPONSIBILITY to use some form of birth control if you must screw.....

REALLY? Hmmmmm....then how come ALL MEN do not wear condoms or get their doctor to prescribe the male birth control pill that is out there for them?

But do all of these men that have unprotected sex, WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY of being a Father, in your opinion because they don't ascertain the proper precautions of birth control for themselves?

Just want to make sure what is good for the goose, is good for the gander... in your head....?

care

 

[Anguille]

The difference between Catz and Sky.

Ten years ago, Catz was fat, and Sky was stupid.

Catz isn't fat anymore, but Sky remains stupid.

And somehow, Sky thinks that poking fun at Catz's non-existent fat makes her look smarter. It's sad.

Catz's legs, circa 2008 (age 42):


Catz w/ kids:

More legs:

You do have nice legs, catz. But the beauty, inside and out ends about mid thigh.

 

[Anguille]

Can you expand on that?

If you read about the history of Margaret Sanger, her background was in eugenics. She had very strong feelings that some people should be permanently sterilized, and that others (particularly poor minorities) should not be having children.

The goal of opening abortion clinics, particularly in poor areas, was to stop population growth among certain segments of society.

And, even now, when you hear middle class white women talk about abortion, the issue will always come up of how it would be better for some fetuses to be aborted because their mother is poor (and the assumption goes without saying, minority) and probably would be a bad parent anywhere.

it's a very ugly and subtle sort of racism.

You hang around with some strange people.

Conspiracy people, IMO.

 

[Anguille]

You're like the 40 year old woman who teases her hair and talks baby talk because she thinks it endears her to men....but keeps her retarded daughter chained up in a closet.

Who is that? Someone in your past?

 

[Anguille]

Catz, seriously, this study is very flawed. And I wouldn't care except that if you convince people that being a single-parent puts your children at risk without any real evidence you encourage parents to stay in abusive marriages. Or you encourage them to micromanage and over-protect their kids...adding to the wussification of Americans everywhere.

Or she could also be encouraging them to abort. Something she claims she's against. She's one mixed up broad.

 

[Anguille]

Okay ... a tough question: Are those against abortion also for forced adoptions or sterilizations?

Not me. No sterilization ever. Forced abortion only in an exteme case where the mother was deemed insane and dangerous by a judge following medical testimony.

 

[Anguille]

So tell us then, what percentage of the homes were single parent and what percentage were two parent?

I don't know, you'd have to do further research, and I encourage you to do so.

Yeah, I figured. They don't know either.

Catz is busted. Again.

 

[Anguille]

When a girl says in front of her two kids almost everyday that she should give them up for adoption because she can't afford them and then spends over $100 on tupperware (and this was 20 years ago), there's something desperately wrong.

I was attacked by a friend for agreeing with the mother in question, she said that was a thoughtless thing for me to say. I pointed out that any mother who says in front of her kids repeatedly that she should give them up for adoption SHOULD give them up for adoption, it's pretty obvious they'd be better off with someone else.

Funny how the right thing sometimes offends people just because it demonstrates that the ideal is not always reality. Not all women are cut out to be mothers. Same with men.

 

[Anguille]

Just imagine how much worse it would have been for you if your mother had been a single mom and you didn't have your father to count on, then tell me children in single parent families aren't "at risk".

One can only suppose. But suppose also that her dad had been the single parent? I might have been better for her.

 

[dilloduck]

Well, the thing is, women that have abortions aren't saying they don't want children...they are just saying they aren't ready.

then why did, the majority of them anyhow,have unprotected sex?if your not ready you would take the RESPONSIBILITY to use some form of birth control if you must screw.....

REALLY? Hmmmmm....then how come ALL MEN do not wear condoms or get their doctor to prescribe the male birth control pill that is out there for them?

But do all of these men that have unprotected sex, WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY of being a Father, in your opinion because they don't ascertain the proper precautions of birth control for themselves?

Just want to make sure what is good for the goose, is good for the gander... in your head....?

care

It's very simple---the woman gets pregnant. I know women don't see that as fair and maybe it isn't but it's the fact, Jack.

 

[Anguille]

I'm astonished no one has yet brought up the Jesus was the child of a poor teenage mother thing yet.

 

[dilloduck]

I'm astonished no one has yet brought up the Jesus was the child of a poor teenage mother thing yet.

Oh cmon---his dad was God, for Christ sakes.

 

[del]

I'm astonished no one has yet brought up the Jesus was the child of a poor teenage mother thing yet.

you're easily astonished.

 

[Care4all]

You almost described my mother .... except mine was married until a month after I finally left the house. I hate her still ... *sigh* Oh well. But I don't see single parents as the issue, married ones have just as many problems however because of the presence of a second parent there is less of a chance for the child to be a lost cause, my father was the one I leaned toward because he was just ... a decent red neck agnostic (yes they do exist). My mother and father finally divorced and now guess what, my mother was on welfare the last time I saw her, almost too fat to move, and didn't want to work.

Just imagine how much worse it would have been for you if your mother had been a single mom and you didn't have your father to count on, then tell me children in single parent families aren't "at risk".

They are ... on an added note ... my father turned out to be bisexual ... how odd is that, the "gay" agnostic parent being the better of the two.

I wonder if this other side of your father, was really found out by your mother early on in marriage, but maybe never discussed with eachother and this is why she bore so much anger inside of her towards him and maybe even you, and this drove her mad?

Every action has a reaction....ya just never know....

Not that any of this excuses your mother's behavior! My heart goes out to you....!!!

i had JUST THE OPPOSITE of a family life, with both parents, who have been married now for over 50 years with grand parents that were married 65 years... pretty much, i was the first one in my entire extended family to be divorced in 2.5 years after my first marriage....so i felt like the Black Sheep of the family almost!

But never, ever...did I think I was not loved or wanted by both my parents...even after knock down, dragged out, fights.

care

 

[Said1]

I'm astonished no one has yet brought up the Jesus was the child of a poor teenage mother thing yet.

Oh cmon---his dad was God, for Christ sakes.

except for there crucifixion, I think it turned out well for them.

 

[Care4all]

then why did, the majority of them anyhow,have unprotected sex?if your not ready you would take the RESPONSIBILITY to use some form of birth control if you must screw.....

REALLY? Hmmmmm....then how come ALL MEN do not wear condoms or get their doctor to prescribe the male birth control pill that is out there for them?

But do all of these men that have unprotected sex, WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY of being a Father, in your opinion because they don't ascertain the proper precautions of birth control for themselves?

Just want to make sure what is good for the goose, is good for the gander... in your head....?

care

It's very simple---the woman gets pregnant. I know women don't see that as fair and maybe it isn't but it's the fact, Jack.

Thus abortion....if it is important to all of these men here, then they would prevent it from happening, no?

care

 

[dilloduck]

REALLY? Hmmmmm....then how come ALL MEN do not wear condoms or get their doctor to prescribe the male birth control pill that is out there for them?

But do all of these men that have unprotected sex, WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY of being a Father, in your opinion because they don't ascertain the proper precautions of birth control for themselves?

Just want to make sure what is good for the goose, is good for the gander... in your head....?

care

It's very simple---the woman gets pregnant. I know women don't see that as fair and maybe it isn't but it's the fact, Jack.

Thus abortion....if it is important to all of these men here, then they would prevent it from happening, no?

care

they can't

 

[Care4all]

It's very simple---the woman gets pregnant. I know women don't see that as fair and maybe it isn't but it's the fact, Jack.

Thus abortion....if it is important to all of these men here, then they would prevent it from happening, no?

care

they can't

cuz God made them that way.....as in sex drive?

or because you think ALL these men that knock up women want to have their children born and ALL beg these girls to PLEASE have their babies?

 

[dilloduck]

Thus abortion....if it is important to all of these men here, then they would prevent it from happening, no?

care

they can't

cuz God made them that way.....as in sex drive?

or because you think ALL these men that knock up women want to have their children born and ALL beg these girls to PLEASE have their babies?

Men don't try as hard as women do as far as birth control because they do not get pregnant. They simply are not motivated as much biologically as a woman is.. After prenancy, the man can do nothing but face the conequences of the women's decision.

 

[Care4all]

Maybe the "punishment" for men needs to be greater ....with thinking like Skull's on this topic???

Maybe it is the father of this child that should "take care of them", until the child is adopted....?