About Those J6 “People”

[Correll]

A narrative isn't necessary to highlight the obscenity of pardoning convicted criminals because they committed crimes (against the country) on trump's behalf.

The reason for the pardon was the massive violation of the rights of the accused.

That you lied about that, is you being a liar.

Let us keep that fact in mind as this discussion continues, you are willing to lie to support your side.


My two points stands.


1. is that even disproportionate?

2. and is it becasue vindictive, vile, dems are targetting them, in an ADDITONAL violation of their human rights?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Trump didn’t control the FBI obviously. Leftwing deep state hacks occupied very high positions. It’s tough to getting all the rot.

Trump IS the Deep State.
And ALWAYS has been.

Bondi briefed Trump that his name was in Epstein files​

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2025/07/23 › politics › bondi-tr...
Jul 23, 2025 — Bondi briefed Trump that his name was in Epstein files ... President Donald Trump, accompanied by newly sworn-in US Attorney General Pam Bondi,.


Have you HEARD Trump mention the Deep State since?

 

[berg80]

I guess you missed the news. 26 FBI informants accompanied them in. This was admitted to by the FBI. This thing was phony and orchestrated.

Perhaps one day you'll join the rest of us living in the real world.

 

[berg80]

The reason for the pardon was the massive violation of the rights of the accused.

That's the false narrative used to justify the pardons. Gosh, you really will believe anything they tell you.

 

[Correll]

Perhaps one day you'll join the rest of us living in the real world.

Do you think that the proud boys are increadibly dangerous?
Do you support the fbi infilitrating them and trying to have them arrested?

 

[berg80]

Do you think that the proud boys are increadibly dangerous?
Do you support the fbi infilitrating them and trying to have them arrested?

I can't help noticing you keep jumping from one topic to another each time your horseshit gets called out.

 

[Correll]

I can't help noticing you keep jumping from one topic to another each time your horseshit gets called out.

You got something you want to pin me down on?

GO.

But answer the question. Do you support the fbi infilitrating the Proud boys with the intent of arresting them?

 

[berg80]

You got something you want to pin me down on?

Posts 39 and 40. Take your pick.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Wait… so those thousands of people did all of that because 26 informants told them to?

No shit. Give us names and describe exactly how they did that

It wasn't thousands, it was a few hundred. But, it doesn't matter if there were informants or not or even how many there were. It was a mob and mobs are angry, unpredictable animals. Everyone knows this and yet people on the left lose their minds when a motorist panics and runs over a protestor.

I've been saying this since the BLM and Antifa riots and the Seattle takeover but people on the left laughed off my concerns when they assaulted someone wanting to enter the area. But if it's a right wing crowd that gets out of control, charge them with insurrection and put their asses away for good. As with most other things, the left wants to have it both ways.

 

[Correll]

Posts 39 and 40. Take your pick.

I addressed those points.


Re "pardoned because they committed crimes on Trump's behalf".

I pointed out, correctly, that the pardons were because of the massive violations of the human rights of the accused, by your side.


YOU failed to address that.



I asked again, do you support the FBI infiltrating the Proud Boys, with the intent of getting them arrested?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I addressed those points.


Re "pardoned because they committed crimes on Trump's behalf".

I pointed out, correctly, that the pardons were because of the massive violations of the human rights of the accused, by your side.


YOU failed to address that.



I asked again, do you support the FBI infiltrating the Proud Boys, with the intent of getting them arrested?

Do you support the Proud Boys ratting on each other, to the FBI, Q-NUT?
Because THAT'S what happened.

Why would those loser goobers listen to the likes of a newbie?
Because they're as gullible and dumber than you are.

 

[berg80]

I pointed out, correctly, that the pardons were because of the massive violations of the human rights of the accused, by your side.

That's laughable. All you did is regurgitate the talking points you memorized.

• Conditions of Detention: A U.S. judge held D.C. jail officials in contempt, finding that the civil rights of a Jan. 6 defendant were violated regarding medical treatment. Other defendants complained about access to counsel, food, and religious services.
• Procedural Delays: A federal judge admitted that the government failed to comply with the Speedy Trial Act for one defendant due to significant delays.
• Claims of "Political Prisoners": Some lawmakers and lawyers have argued that defendants were treated harshly as "political prisoners" and held in pre-trial detention too long.
• Counter-Arguments on Treatment: Others argue that the defendants were treated fairly—or even leniently—with full access to due process and that cases were handled diligently by the DOJ.

 

[Correll]

Do you support the Proud Boys ratting on each other, to the FBI, Q-NUT?
Because THAT'S what happened.

Why would those loser goobers listen to the likes of a newbie?
Because they're as gullible and dumber than you are.

DO YOU SUPPORT THE FBI INFILTRATING THE PROUD BOYS WITH THE INTENT OF ARRESTING THEM?

 

[Correll]

That's laughable. All you did is regurgitate the talking points you memorized.

• Conditions of Detention: A U.S. judge held D.C. jail officials in contempt, finding that the civil rights of a Jan. 6 defendant were violated regarding medical treatment. Other defendants complained about access to counsel, food, and religious services.
• Procedural Delays: A federal judge admitted that the government failed to comply with the Speedy Trial Act for one defendant due to significant delays.
• Claims of "Political Prisoners": Some lawmakers and lawyers have argued that defendants were treated harshly as "political prisoners" and held in pre-trial detention too long.
• Counter-Arguments on Treatment: Others argue that the defendants were treated fairly—or even leniently—with full access to due process and that cas

• s were handled diligently by the DOJ.

We are discussing the stated reasons of a Presidential Pardon.


I'm giving you the official, formal, stated reason.

And you attack me for... you being a retard, is really what that above shows.

 

[berg80]

DO YOU SUPPORT THE FBI INFILTRATING THE PROUD BOYS WITH THE INTENT OF ARRESTING THEM?

The intent was to gather info about their activities. If some of those activities turned out to be illegal do you have a problem with Proud Boys being arrested?

Findings from the Inspector General
A March 2025 report from the U.S. Justice Department Inspector General provided the following clarifications:

• No Undercover Operatives: The report found no evidence that undercover FBI agents participated in the assault on the Capitol.
• No Orchestration: FBI Director Christopher Wray has repeatedly dismissed claims that the violence was part of a bureau-orchestrated operation as "ludicrous".
• Lack of Authorization: The FBI did not authorize any of its informants to enter the Capitol building or participate in the violence that day.

 

[berg80]

We are discussing the stated reasons of a Presidential Pardon.


I'm giving you the official, formal, stated reason.

Yes, as I said, you regurgitated some "official" yet erroneous talking points.

Any time you're ready to produce evidence of "massive violations of the human rights of the accused, by your side," I'm all ears.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

At least 33 pardoned insurrectionists face other criminal charges—but many are now going free - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

At least 33 January 6th insurrectionists pardoned by Trump have been rearrested, charged or sentenced for other crimes since January 6, 2021.

www.citizensforethics.org

Child sex crimes

Assault

Weapons charges

Yeah. Pardon em and give em taxpayer money

Way to go Trump

As if assaulting cops and smashing their way into the Capitol wasn’t enough

There were 10s of thousands in the blm riots, pillaging, rapes, murders, destruction of property during the summer of lib love but somehow libs just never were concerned.

 

[Lesh]

It wasn't thousands, it was a few hundred. But, it doesn't matter if there were informants or not or even how many there were. It was a mob and mobs are angry, unpredictable animals. Everyone knows this and yet people on the left lose their minds when a motorist panics and runs over a protestor.

I've been saying this since the BLM and Antifa riots and the Seattle takeover but people on the left laughed off my concerns when they assaulted someone wanting to enter the area. But if it's a right wing crowd that gets out of control, charge them with insurrection and put their asses away for good. As with most other things, the left wants to have it both ways.

It was many thousands. How do I know?

Because over a thousand were arrested

 

[Lesh]

There were 10s of thousands in the blm riots, pillaging, rapes, murders, destruction of property during the summer of lib love but somehow libs just never were concerned.

Never concerned? Bullshit.

And that DOES NOT excuse what those MAGA creeps did

 

[Correll]

The intent was to gather info about their activities. If some of those activities turned out to be illegal do you have a problem with Proud Boys being arrested?
......

So, that is a yes, you do support it.


But, you raised an interesting point. Why would the Proud BOys listen to some newbe?

And now you raise another. Only SOME of their acctivities MIGHT be illegal. The newbe can't be everywhere, or stay there forever.

So, what would some answers to that problem be?

Since you KNOW that the Proud BOys are increadibly dangerous. And evil.


What is the fbi "asset" supposed to do, to complete his mission, in a timely fashion?