Zone1 Abortion Debate: Come Clean and without fallacy

[Chuz Life]

" Anthropocentric Psychosis Of Denying A Literal Meaning For An After Life "

* Know Faux King Kid Ding Obfuscating The Obvious *

"Bloviating Flatulence from the Fucktarded Abyss"

"Indigestible Monkey turds"

The enumerated rite to equal protection with a us citizen includes a live birth requirement , as birth is a non incidental requirement to become a us citizen in a us state and in us federate .

US citizenship is not a requirement for the recognition of the equal protection of a person's rights under the U.S. Constitution.

Yick Wo Vs. Hopkins.

As a zef has not completed a live birth requirement ,

Asinine opinion noted, and I'll also note that no United States Supreme Court has ever indicated that opinion.

Quite the ******* opposite.

it is without constitutional protection and private property of the mother , where any perceived offences against a zef are actually offenses against the mother , and penalties should be commensurate with the offense.

Mother?

If she's a mother. . . what is she the "mother" of, if not her own child?

As for the rest of the codswallop, not even close, and that asinine opinion is not even in accordance with the actual letter of the law that makes the killing of a "child in the womb" during a criminal act - a separate crime - from the one against the mother.

U.S. Code 1841.

As equitable doctrine requires removing a rite to life to have ones own rite to life removed , such is why fetal protection laws could not apply capital punishment of death , as a live birth is required for equal protections .

LOL!

Again, watch the video (actual audio from the Supreme Court in Roe)

I'll take their opinion of Monkey Flings on any given day.

 

[Chuz Life]

Again, their "privileges" begin when society agrees they should. No one wants to give human rights to zygotes. This is why when someone realized that the new abortion laws in some of the Jesusland states could potentially ban in vitro fertilization, everyone rushed to make sure that didn't happen.

That a society can (and sometimes does) flip the switch on the recognition of basic human rights. . . that doesn't mean the rights don't exist when the switch is "off."

It means the rights are being violated.

For example, slavery was a violation of human rights, even when it was completely legal to "own" and hold slaves.

But by your dubious logic, every zygote would be a person, and in vitro fertilization should be banned, because it has created a million embryos that will never be implanted inside a woman. (Because they are spares and the woman already got what she wanted.)

It is what it is, same as the example of slavery, even if and when the personhood of the millions of children is being denied my "majority rule."

Pretty much. Originally, in the Constitution, you only had "rights" if you were born as a white male. If you were black, native American, or a woman, you didn't have 'rights', and you barely had privileges. Don't get fond of your kids, slaves, I might need to sell them to make a quick buck. Hey, Chief Running Gag, we want your land, so we're going to slaughter your tribe despite having a treaty with your nation.

Were none of those things wrong or crimes against humanity, even before the laws were changed to correct those things, Joey?

Now, conversely, before 1919, you had the right to get shitfaced on alcohol, before the moral scolds decided that wasn't good anymore, and tricked the country into passing the 18th Amendment. But bit of a problem there, people decided they still wanted to get shitfaced, Al Capone made a bunch of money, and eventually, they had to admit defeat with the 21st Amendment.

Yeah, that's comparable to claiming the right to kill a child for convenience, alright.

Which brings me back to my original point. The reason why abortion laws didn't work back before 1973 was that most people didn't think Globby was more important than the woman he was inside. So women quietly had abortions with a discreet provider, family members, even the really religious ones, didn't turn their relatives in when they did it. In fact, the only time someone was prosecuted for performing abortions was if they were sloppy at it, and injured the woman in the process.

I won't even try to account for the ignorance of past generations, be it with regard to slavery, abortion, or any other violations of human rights.

By 1972, even that stopped being much of an issue, as only 36 women were reported to have died from illegal septic abortions. (In that same year, 22 women died of septic abortions in states where it was legal.)

Yeah.

Medical numbers are static.

I know.

 

[JoeB131]

That a society can (and sometimes does) flip the switch on the recognition of basic human rights. . . that doesn't mean the rights don't exist when the switch is "off."

It means the rights are being violated.

For example, slavery was a violation of human rights, even when it was completely legal to "own" and hold slaves.

Except in the case of "Globby", that switch was never "On".

Even when abortion was illegal, it was never treated as murder. Nor does your side want to treat it as murder now, given you won't even give a straight answer on what kind of punishment a woman should get for having one.

It is what it is, same as the example of slavery, even if and when the personhood of the millions of children is being denied my "majority rule."

Well, no, you tried to skip over the point. If you want to argue that life begins at conception, then In Vitro Fertilization is a crime in that it creates "people" that will be discarded.

Were none of those things wrong or crimes against humanity, even before the laws were changed to correct those things, Joey?

You were the one who cited the Constitution as giving Globby a "right to life", even though it's not specifically mentioned there. A Human Life Amendment has been on the GOP platform since the 1970s, but oddly, it never seems to come up in Congress.

Yeah, that's comparable to claiming the right to kill a child for convenience, alright.

Well, um, yeah, it kind of is.

When you tell someone they can't have something they've been able to have their entire lives, they are going to get mighty testy about it. Women want at least the OPTION of abortion. Maybe because they are too lazy to use birth control, maybe because a pregnancy has gone horribly wrong and they need to end it. But it should be their choice.

Now, if you can devise a way to outlaws abortion without restricting the lives and freedom of women, let me know.

I won't even try to account for the ignorance of past generations, be it with regard to slavery, abortion, or any other violations of human rights.

When I see you out there protesting what Trump is doing to immigrants, I'll take you seriously on human rights. Otherwise, you are just another sad misogynist.

Yeah.

Medical numbers are static.

I know.

Well, no, what changed was that instead of unethical back alley abortionists, respectable OB/GYN's were performing abortions and openly ignoring laws that the police no longer bothered to enforce. That's why that number went down.

 

[Eman623]

Riiight.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'll take their opinion OVER Monkey Flings on any given day.

Typo Corrected

 

[initforme]

The issue has been settled. Roe is gone.

 

[Chuz Life]

Except in the case of "Globby", that switch was never "On".

Slaves weren't free before they were freed. . .

So. .

That means there was a time (not long ago) that their freedom "switch" was never "on" either.

 

[JoeB131]

Slaves weren't free before they were freed. . .

So. .

That means there was a time (not long ago) that their freedom "switch" was never "on" either.

Um, not really. YOu see, many of those people weren't born as slaves, they were captured and forced into slavery.

On the other hand, Globby has never been recognized as a person. Not by medical science, not by the law, and not even in the Bible.

Duly noted that you skipped over the rest of my points, so I will take those as conceded.

 

[Chuz Life]

The issue has been settled. Roe is gone.

You wanna put some money on that?

Um, not really. YOu see, many of those people weren't born as slaves, they were captured and forced into slavery.

On the other hand, Globby has never been recognized as a person. Not by medical science, not by the law, and not even in the Bible.

Duly noted that you skipped over the rest of my points, so I will take those as conceded.

I'm on a cell phone Joey,

If you want the longer response to all your other asinine claims, you will just have to wait.

LoL.

Though

Um, not really. YOu see, many of those people weren't born as slaves, they were captured and forced into slavery.

On the other hand, Globby has never been recognized as a person. Not by medical science, not by the law, and not even in the Bible.

Duly noted that you skipped over the rest of my points, so I will take those as conceded.

Well rights are granted or gifted, so they also didn't have any rights until we white people said they did.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm on a cell phone Joey,

If you want the longer response to all your other asinine claims, you will just have to wait.

LoL.

Also, since you decided rights are granted or gifted, they (slaves) also didn't have any rights until we white people said they did.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm on a cell phone Joey,

If you want the longer response to all your other asinine claims, you will just have to wait.

Naw, it will be the same tired "but, but, but THE BAAABIES" shit you always spew.

Well rights are granted or gifted, so they also didn't have any rights until we white people said they did.

Quite right, because there are no rights.

But here's the reason why Fetuses won't be granted rights.

Because you'd have to take rights away from the half of the population that have uteri, and they won't stand for that shit.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Anthropocentric Apex Predator Damned Dirty Apes Having Difficulty Getting Over Mental Retardation "

* Logically Of Course Is Obvious To Any Competent Thinker *

"Bloviating Flatulence from the Fucktarded Abyss"

"Indigestible Monkey turds"

US citizenship is not a requirement for the recognition of the equal protection of a person's rights under the U.S. Constitution.

Live birth is a NON INCIDENTAL requirement to become a citizen and therefore live birth is required for equal protection with a citizen , irrespective of whether any having completed live birth qualifies for the INCIDENTAL requirements to become a us citizen .

Such is the basis of " LOGICALLY , OF COURSE " statement from blackmun in roe v wade decision .

. Demand Any Nomination For Us Supreme Court Justice Explain Blackmun ' Logically Of Course ' Statement From Roe V Wade .

. Explain Roe V Wade References To Potential Life .

 

[Chuz Life]

. . . Such is the basis of " LOGICALLY , OF COURSE " statement from blackmun in roe v wade decision .

This Just in

 

[Chuz Life]

Naw, it will be the same tired "but, but, but THE BAAABIES" shit you always spew.



Quite right, because there are no rights.

But here's the reason why Fetuses won't be granted rights.

Because you'd have to take rights away from the half of the population that have uteri, and they won't stand for that shit.

Those that have Uteri. . . were once in the womb as well, weren't they?

They were.

So they have the same rights.

Nobody has the right to kill another human being for convenience.

 

[JoeB131]

This Just in

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And yet the number of abortions performed has INCREASED since Dobbs.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/23/abortion-increased-2024-telehealth-report

That didn't turn out the way you expected, did it?

 

[Chuz Life]

And yet the number of abortions performed has INCREASED since Dobbs.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/23/abortion-increased-2024-telehealth-report

That didn't turn out the way you expected, did it?

Do you profess to know my expectations now, Joey?

 

[JoeB131]

Do you profess to know my expectations now, Joey?

Oh, I think we can determine that by your postings.

Left up to you, nearly all abortions would be illegal.

Not quite working out that way, though, is it?

Even Red States are voting for abortion rights, and this is the last thing Trump wants on the ballot this November.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Arrogance And Pride Of Damned Dirty Apes Eclipsed By A Ring Around The Phallus "

* Ignorance Of Traitors Against Us Constitution Bragging About Their Sedition And Treason *

This Just in

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Obviously there are multitudes of TRAITORS against us republic and against its constitution , who support the SEDITION of scRotus in dobbs to facilitate TREASON , and those same TRAITORS are carrying SEDITION to a new level of depravity by facilitating TREASON against us 1st amendment , by dictating taxpayer funded religious instruction , proselytizing and indoctrination to to captive audiences of children .

. Equal Protection Of Citizenship Is In A State Of Sedition Because Of Supreme Court Ruling On Abortion .

. Are Us States Prohibited From Complying With Us 1st Amendment By Us 10th Amendment ? .

. Zone1 - What Are Implications To The Circumcised About Their Claims For Salvation Through Christ Given Galatians 5 ? .

 

[JoeB131]

Those that have Uteri. . . were once in the womb as well, weren't they?

They were.

So they have the same rights.

Nobody has the right to kill another human being for convenience.

Actually, any woman of child birthing age at this point was born when Roe was the law of the land.

their mothers CHOSE to have babies.

The same choice they have.

 

[dblack]

Another brick in the wall of fascism.