Abbas suggests Obama promised 67 lines - E. Jerusalem

[montelatici]

Yep and despite all the demonization and bullshit Islamic anti semetic neo Nazi propaganda, the entire Christian world knows that all will be lost if Jerusalem was under the control of intolerant Muslim savages as opposed to Jews, who are great hosts and protectors of the rights of all religions and minorities. That is why the Baha'is have their main temple and center of their faith in Israel.

Does this idiot really think that anybody trusts Muslims and especially PALESTINIANS to be as good hosts and caretakers of other faiths?

Let's do a short review of Muslim and Palestinian "respect" for other faiths in the last century. All you will see is a trail of blood and desecration.

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

More of topic deflection by the little boy

It is the topic, punk.

 

[Phoenall]

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

More of topic deflection by the little boy

It is the topic, punk.

WRONG as the topic is Abbas claiming that Obama offered 67 borders. Not what right wing Nazis are doing to Christians LITTLE BOY

 

[aris2chat]

I am sure this woman Muslim poster was a Koran scholar and this anecdotal story accurately represents Islamic scripture.

In fact, the Koran states that "Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means; instead, "God raised him unto Himself"....Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the Messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)."

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why not tell us what you and your fellow Muslims think about the Gospel of Barnabas.

http://www.ahttp://www.gotquestions...ng-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

I am not sure what Muslims think about it, but as a practicing Roman Catholic, it is heresy to me.

The Epistle and Acts of Barnabas both date to the mid 1st Century. The Gospel, of Spanish origin, was likely written in Islamic Andalusia.

 

[aris2chat]

Yep and despite all the demonization and bullshit Islamic anti semetic neo Nazi propaganda, the entire Christian world knows that all will be lost if Jerusalem was under the control of intolerant Muslim savages as opposed to Jews, who are great hosts and protectors of the rights of all religions and minorities. That is why the Baha'is have their main temple and center of their faith in Israel.

Does this idiot really think that anybody trusts Muslims and especially PALESTINIANS to be as good hosts and caretakers of other faiths?

Let's do a short review of Muslim and Palestinian "respect" for other faiths in the last century. All you will see is a trail of blood and desecration.

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

They don't need Israel to take them on a trip. They have been traveling to and from Israel/mandate for more than a century. They have seen the development and growth of the jewish community and the protection or the christian sites, but jews. Under the Ottoman and Islamic empire, it was not as easy for christians to travel, beside being unsafe.
Now with modern transportation from air planes to high speed trams, Jerusalem and the rest of Israel is accessible to not just the churches but new archeological sites. Biblical history might not scientifically match the bible but the bible is a spiritual tale not an exact history. We can learn more about the life and people during the times of the Bible stories. Science and bible should complement each other not corroborate even detail.

 

[Roudy]

Montelatici is engaging in Islamic mental masturbation and denial. They all do that.

Vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel and Israel is enjoyed record high approval among Americans. I bet that bugs the shit out of Mohommod Latici. Ha ha ha

 

[montelatici]

Montelatici is engaging in Islamic mental masturbation and denial. They all do that.

Vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel and Israel is enjoyed record high approval among Americans. I bet that bugs the shit out of Mohommod Latici. Ha ha ha

No, just presenting facts.

 

[Roudy]

Montelatici is engaging in Islamic mental masturbation and denial. They all do that.

Vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel and Israel is enjoyed record high approval among Americans. I bet that bugs the shit out of Mohommod Latici. Ha ha ha

No, just presenting facts.

Facts are vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel, and Israel is enjoying some its highest approval ratings while Palestinians are somewhere in the bottom. Those are the facts.

Your facts are more like Islamic propaganda and bullshit.

 

[montelatici]

These are Christian websites, how can it be Islamic propaganda?

Presbyterian:

"Palestinian Christians are under attack in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories.

Israeli settlers have been vandalizing Palestinian churches, monasteries, cemeteries, and other Christian institutions and property in alarming numbers over the past three years.

These crimes are thought to be part of the larger “price-tag” movement, a campaign started by Israeli settlers in 2011 both to intimidate Palestinians into leaving their land and to establish a punitive “price” Palestinians must pay for perceived setbacks to the security and geographic expansion of the Jewish state."

Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - News & Announcements - Palestinian Christians under attack


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[montelatici]

Montelatici is engaging in Islamic mental masturbation and denial. They all do that.

Vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel and Israel is enjoyed record high approval among Americans. I bet that bugs the shit out of Mohommod Latici. Ha ha ha

No, just presenting facts.

Facts are vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel, and Israel is enjoying some its highest approval ratings while Palestinians are somewhere in the bottom. Those are the facts.

Your facts are more like Islamic propaganda and bullshit.

Then there is the "Christ at the Checkpoint" which just finished their bi-annual meet at the Bethlehem Bible College. Another Christian website and group which reminded Christians that they can't ignore parts of the Bible because you might disagree with them. I think this was intended for the Christian Zionists.

"Mark 10:33
New Testament King James version:

"Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:"

Christ at the Checkpoint

 

[Sally]

No, just presenting facts.

Facts are vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel, and Israel is enjoying some its highest approval ratings while Palestinians are somewhere in the bottom. Those are the facts.

Your facts are more like Islamic propaganda and bullshit.

Then there is the "Christ at the Checkpoint" which just finished their bi-annual meet at the Bethlehem Bible College. Another Christian website and group which reminded Christians that they can't ignore parts of the Bible because you might disagree with them. I think this was intended for the Christian Zionists.

"Mark 10:33
New Testament King James version:

"Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:"

Christ at the Checkpoint

Meanwhile, I wonder if montelatici can tell us why this group is not complaining about the treatment of the Christians in Muslim countries. Surely, such an "unbiased" group would be very busy condemning what is happening to their fellow Christians in Muslim countries since so many horrendous things are happening to them. Could it be that they are not interested because there are no Jews involved. I think most of us realize that in the U.S. the vast majority of Christians (plus those of other religions, as the Hindu posters who used to say "God Bless Israel"), are wholeheartedly for Israel. Regardless of montelatici pulling this up once again and even if she pulls it up a thousand times, it will not change the fact about how most Americans feel about Israel. As one Evangelical poster whose grandfather is a Pastor used to state, there are millions and millions of American Protestants who stand for Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Facts are vast majority of American Christians stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel, and Israel is enjoying some its highest approval ratings while Palestinians are somewhere in the bottom. Those are the facts.

Your facts are more like Islamic propaganda and bullshit.

Then there is the "Christ at the Checkpoint" which just finished their bi-annual meet at the Bethlehem Bible College. Another Christian website and group which reminded Christians that they can't ignore parts of the Bible because you might disagree with them. I think this was intended for the Christian Zionists.

"Mark 10:33
New Testament King James version:

"Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:"

Christ at the Checkpoint

Meanwhile, I wonder if montelatici can tell us why this group is not complaining about the treatment of the Christians in Muslim countries. Surely, such an "unbiased" group would be very busy condemning what is happening to their fellow Christians in Muslim countries since so many horrendous things are happening to them. Could it be that they are not interested because there are no Jews involved. I think most of us realize that in the U.S. the vast majority of Christians (plus those of other religions, as the Hindu posters who used to say "God Bless Israel"), are wholeheartedly for Israel. Regardless of montelatici pulling this up once again and even if she pulls it up a thousand times, it will not change the fact about how most Americans feel about Israel. As one Evangelical poster whose grandfather is a Pastor used to state, there are millions and millions of American Protestants who stand for Israel.

Well, all I post is facts. If you believe that the Presbyterians and the Evangelical Christians of Christ at the Checkpoint are not a sign of Christians changing their support to Christians in Palestine and Israel, then you should be content, correct?

 

[Sally]

Then there is the "Christ at the Checkpoint" which just finished their bi-annual meet at the Bethlehem Bible College. Another Christian website and group which reminded Christians that they can't ignore parts of the Bible because you might disagree with them. I think this was intended for the Christian Zionists.

"Mark 10:33
New Testament King James version:

"Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:"

Christ at the Checkpoint

Meanwhile, I wonder if montelatici can tell us why this group is not complaining about the treatment of the Christians in Muslim countries. Surely, such an "unbiased" group would be very busy condemning what is happening to their fellow Christians in Muslim countries since so many horrendous things are happening to them. Could it be that they are not interested because there are no Jews involved. I think most of us realize that in the U.S. the vast majority of Christians (plus those of other religions, as the Hindu posters who used to say "God Bless Israel"), are wholeheartedly for Israel. Regardless of montelatici pulling this up once again and even if she pulls it up a thousand times, it will not change the fact about how most Americans feel about Israel. As one Evangelical poster whose grandfather is a Pastor used to state, there are millions and millions of American Protestants who stand for Israel.

Well, all I post is facts. If you believe that the Presbyterians and the Evangelical Christians of Christ at the Checkpoint are not a sign of Christians changing their support to Christians in Palestine and Israel, then you should be content, correct?

As one Evangelical calls them -- Pseudo Evangelicals. I am still wondering if you can show us where these "unbiased" people are concerned about what is happening to their fellow Christians in the Muslim world. Are they that asleep at the switch that they aren't aware of what is happening? It's a shame that they weren't like Raymond Ibrahim who speaks up and tell it like it is. Wouldn't it be nice if montelatici could show us what action these "unbiased" people are taking toward the mistreatment of Christians in the Muslim world?

 

[montelatici]

True Christians are concerned about the persecution of Christians in general. Not just persecution by Muslims. You, I can see, are not a true Christian. You are just a Muslim hater.

 

[aris2chat]

These are Christian websites, how can it be Islamic propaganda?

Presbyterian:

"Palestinian Christians are under attack in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories.

Israeli settlers have been vandalizing Palestinian churches, monasteries, cemeteries, and other Christian institutions and property in alarming numbers over the past three years.

These crimes are thought to be part of the larger “price-tag” movement, a campaign started by Israeli settlers in 2011 both to intimidate Palestinians into leaving their land and to establish a punitive “price” Palestinians must pay for perceived setbacks to the security and geographic expansion of the Jewish state."

Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - News & Announcements - Palestinian Christians under attack


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Christians in Israel have been given their own representation, legally. They are not in danger except in the minds of hatemongers who are trying to cause trouble by spreading lies. In Gaza christians are threatened or forced to convert. In Israel religious freedom for all faiths is in the basic laws.

 

[Sally]

True Christians are concerned about the persecution of Christians in general. Not just persecution by Muslims. You, I can see, are not a true Christian. You are just a Muslim hater.

Actually many Christians in the U.S. don't have a very good idea of what your brethren are doing to them. If I were such a Muslim hater, I would not cringe every time I read about one of your sects blowing up the other sect and innocent people are killed and wounded. It is amusing, though, to see the Muslims blurt out "You are just a Muslim hater." It's like they get it from a script. However, I am still wondering if you have any information about this Evangelical group you mentioned trying to spread the word about what is happening to Christians in the Muslim world.

 

[montelatici]

True Christians are concerned about the persecution of Christians in general. Not just persecution by Muslims. You, I can see, are not a true Christian. You are just a Muslim hater.

Actually many Christians in the U.S. don't have a very good idea of what your brethren are doing to them. If I were such a Muslim hater, I would not cringe every time I read about one of your sects blowing up the other sect and innocent people are killed and wounded. It is amusing, though, to see the Muslims blurt out "You are just a Muslim hater." It's like they get it from a script. However, I am still wondering if you have any information about this Evangelical group you mentioned trying to spread the word about what is happening to Christians in the Muslim world.

"The Catholic Church has lashed out at the Israeli government, after its property in East Jerusalem was bulldozed to the ground. Meanwhile, thousands of Palestinian flats were marked for demolition just before US Secretary of State John Kerry’s visit.

Last week Israeli security forces arrived with bulldozers at a piece of property owned by the Catholic Church in east Jerusalem, close to the West Bank city of Bethlehem. They said it had been built without a permit and proceeded to destroy it.

This provoked a backlash from the head of the Catholic Church in Israel who said the demolition was carried out without any prior warning."

 

[montelatici]

The Catholic Church, with 1.5 billion members is not a cult.

 

[Sally]

The Catholic Church, with 1.5 billion members is not a cult.

Who said the Catholic Church is a cult. It is a major religion. Meanwhile, I am wondering if the Evangelical group you mentioned is worried about the Christians worldwide. Do they have something like the following to tell people what is happening?

Persecution News of Churches Persecuted & Christian Sufferings

https://www.persecution.com/

CHRISTIANITY: THE MOST PERSECUTED WORLD FAITH

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yep and despite all the demonization and bullshit Islamic anti semetic neo Nazi propaganda, the entire Christian world knows that all will be lost if Jerusalem was under the control of intolerant Muslim savages as opposed to Jews, who are great hosts and protectors of the rights of all religions and minorities. That is why the Baha'is have their main temple and center of their faith in Israel.

Does this idiot really think that anybody trusts Muslims and especially PALESTINIANS to be as good hosts and caretakers of other faiths?

Let's do a short review of Muslim and Palestinian "respect" for other faiths in the last century. All you will see is a trail of blood and desecration.

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

Presented at the Friends of Sabeel North America Conference held at the Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Albuquerque NM

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiD3T2iVcoc]Ali Abunimah | Standing Up for Justice and Equal Rights in Palestine: How to Win the Struggle Ahead - YouTube[/ame]

 

[aris2chat]

These are Christian websites, how can it be Islamic propaganda?

Presbyterian:

"Palestinian Christians are under attack in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories.

Israeli settlers have been vandalizing Palestinian churches, monasteries, cemeteries, and other Christian institutions and property in alarming numbers over the past three years.

These crimes are thought to be part of the larger “price-tag” movement, a campaign started by Israeli settlers in 2011 both to intimidate Palestinians into leaving their land and to establish a punitive “price” Palestinians must pay for perceived setbacks to the security and geographic expansion of the Jewish state."

Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - News & Announcements - Palestinian Christians under attack


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