Abbas suggests Obama promised 67 lines - E. Jerusalem

[Roudy]

Now isn't that strange because others think it is not neutral but is biased against israel. However, if you want the readers to think they are oh so unbiased, go for it. Why don't you tell your brethren to stop trying tio destroy Israel and then no one will get hurt.

It really is a hoot how we keep on seeing the same stuff brought up time and time again on this forum ad nauseam with the various posters popping up and dragging up the same old, same old when so many worse things are happening to innocent people in many parts of the Muslim world.

Only Israeli right or wrong nutcases and rabid Islamists believe it is biased. Normal people believe it is the best and most neutral organization of its kind. This report was just issued, it is for 2013 so it has not been brought up before.

A simple whois on HRW gives this, highlighted part is interesting

Domain Name:HRW.ORG
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Osama Walid Bin Laden Ayoub Khara Kalb Heywan?

 

[montelatici]

why do you think human rights watch is fair on this subject? because they say what you want them to?

reality --- when you lob missiles into someone else's territory (i.e., Israel) people get hurt.

let me know when you or human rights watch understands that equation.

Wait a minute, the Human Rights Watch you quoted accuses Hamas of torture and of firing 1,400 rockets indiscriminately towards population areas of Israel and you complain about Human Rights Watch? Are you just a reflexive poster that doesn't read what's before him?

Get it right they pay lip service to the muslim breaches of humanitarian law every time they are shown to be anti Jewish. If Israel respond to a rocket killing a civilian HRW call it an unwarranted attack on gazan civilians.

This is an annual report. It covers human rights violations throughout the world. If Israelis bomb civilians they get the same treatment as when any other military bombs civilians.

 

[montelatici]

Only Israeli right or wrong nutcases and rabid Islamists believe it is biased. Normal people believe it is the best and most neutral organization of its kind. This report was just issued, it is for 2013 so it has not been brought up before.

A simple whois on HRW gives this, highlighted part is interesting

Domain Name:HRW.ORG
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Registrant City:New York
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Admin ID:24077218-NSI
Admin Name:Walid Ayoub

Osama Walid Bin Laden Ayoub Khara Kalb Heywan?

Human Rights Watch Board of Directors:

Almost a third are Jewish. LOL

Board of Directors

Hassan Elmasry, Co-Chair [Bio]
Partner and Lead Portfolio Manager
Independent Franchise Partners, LLP

Joel Motley, Co-Chair [Bio]
Managing Director
Public Capital Advisors LLC


Wendy Keys, Vice Chair
Filmmaker
Former Executive Producer of Programming
Film Society of Lincoln Center

Susan Manilow, Vice Chair [Bio]
Human Rights Activist

Jean-Louis Servan-Schreiber
Editor and Publisher
CLÉS Magazines

Sid Sheinberg, Vice Chair [Bio]
Partner
The Bubble Factory
Former COO of MCA/Universal

John J. Studzinski CBE, Vice Chair [Bio]
Global Head, Blackstone Advisory Partners L.P.
The Blackstone Group

Michael G. Fisch
President and Chief Executive Officer
American Securities, LLC

Bruce Rabb, Secretary [Bio]
Legal Advisor to Non-Profit Organizations

Karen Herskovitz Ackman
Landscape Architect

Jorge Castañeda
Professor
New YorkUniversity
Former Foreign Minister of Mexico

Tony Elliott
Chairman
Time Out Group

Michael E. Gellert
General Partner
Windcrest Partners

Hina Jilani
Director
AGHS Legal Aid Center
Former Special Representative of the UN Secretary General on Human Rights Defenders

Betsy Karel
Photographer
Chair, Trellis Fund

Robert Kissane
President
CCS

Kimberly Marteau Emerson
Principal
KME Consulting

Oki Matsumoto
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
Monex Group, Inc.

Barry M. Meyer
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.

Aoife O’Brien
Human Rights Activist
Writer and Journalist

Joan R. Platt
Human Rights Activist

Neil Rimer
Co-Founder and General Partner
Index Ventures

Amy Rao
Founder and Chief Executive Officer
Integrated Archive Systems

Victoria Riskin
Human Rights Activist
Writer-Producer
Former President of the Writers Guild of America

Graham Robeson
Chairman, The 66 Humanitarian Foundation
Chairman, Banque Havilland

Shelley F. Rubin
Co-Founder
The Rubin Museum of Art

Kevin P. Ryan
Founder and Chief Executive Officer
Gilt Groupe

Ambassador Robin Sanders
FE3DS, LLC

Javier Solana
President
ESADE Center for Global Economy and Geopolitics
Former Secretary General of NATO

Siri Stolt-Nielsen
Artist

Darian W. Swig
Human Rights Advocate
Founder & President
Article 3 Advisors

John R. Taylor
Managing Partner
Wellspring Advisors, LLC

Amy Towers
Founder
Nduna Foundation

Marie Warburg
Director
American Council on Germany
Director
US and German Friends of the Jewish Museum Berlin

Catherine Zennström
Zennström Philanthropies

 

[montelatici]

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China (where, incidentally, they don't worship JC)?

You've never heard of the Falun Gong, I suppose.

Incidentally? Most people in Israel do not think Christ was the savior nor do they worship him.

Correct and that is their religion, they did not see him as THE MESSIAH. But they did see him as one of the minor Prophets.

Where did you come up with that? Why don't you try to post fact and not fiction. While Jews are fully entitled to believe what they want, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a "minor" prophet. They think he was basically, a charlatan.

"The belief that Jesus is God, the son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish philosophical tenets. The same applies to belief in Jesus as the Messiah or a prophet of God: those beliefs are also contrary to traditional Jewish views. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint. The belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, see shituf, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity."

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[GISMYS]

NO WORRIES!!! THE JEWISH PEOPLE will see the light of truth===Mourning the One they Pierced
10"I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn. 11"In that day there will be great mourning in Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:10-11

 

[Sally]

You've never heard of the Falun Gong, I suppose.

Incidentally? Most people in Israel do not think Christ was the savior nor do they worship him.

Correct and that is their religion, they did not see him as THE MESSIAH. But they did see him as one of the minor Prophets.

Where did you come up with that? Why don't you try to post fact and not fiction. While Jews are fully entitled to believe what they want, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a "minor" prophet. They think he was basically, a charlatan.

"The belief that Jesus is God, the son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish philosophical tenets. The same applies to belief in Jesus as the Messiah or a prophet of God: those beliefs are also contrary to traditional Jewish views. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint. The belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, see shituf, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity."

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the Muslims think quite differently from the Christians about Jesus. As a Muslim woman poster once said "When Jesus returns, he will get rid of all the dogs and pigs (meaning the Christians and Jews) and will start preaching Islam" Meanwhile, as we can see, the Muslims have no problems with murdering the Christians in Muslim countries.

The Muslim Jesus, known as ?Isa

 

[montelatici]

Yep and despite all the demonization and bullshit Islamic anti semetic neo Nazi propaganda, the entire Christian world knows that all will be lost if Jerusalem was under the control of intolerant Muslim savages as opposed to Jews, who are great hosts and protectors of the rights of all religions and minorities. That is why the Baha'is have their main temple and center of their faith in Israel.

Does this idiot really think that anybody trusts Muslims and especially PALESTINIANS to be as good hosts and caretakers of other faiths?

Let's do a short review of Muslim and Palestinian "respect" for other faiths in the last century. All you will see is a trail of blood and desecration.

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

 

[montelatici]

Correct and that is their religion, they did not see him as THE MESSIAH. But they did see him as one of the minor Prophets.

Where did you come up with that? Why don't you try to post fact and not fiction. While Jews are fully entitled to believe what they want, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a "minor" prophet. They think he was basically, a charlatan.

"The belief that Jesus is God, the son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish philosophical tenets. The same applies to belief in Jesus as the Messiah or a prophet of God: those beliefs are also contrary to traditional Jewish views. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint. The belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, see shituf, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity."

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the Muslims think quite differently from the Christians about Jesus. As a Muslim woman poster once said "When Jesus returns, he will get rid of all the dogs and pigs (meaning the Christians and Jews) and will start preaching Islam" Meanwhile, as we can see, the Muslims have no problems with murdering the Christians in Muslim countries.

The Muslim Jesus, known as ?Isa

I am sure this woman Muslim poster was a Koran scholar and this anecdotal story accurately represents Islamic scripture.

In fact, the Koran states that "Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means; instead, "God raised him unto Himself"....Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the Messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)."

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sally]

Where did you come up with that? Why don't you try to post fact and not fiction. While Jews are fully entitled to believe what they want, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a "minor" prophet. They think he was basically, a charlatan.

"The belief that Jesus is God, the son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish philosophical tenets. The same applies to belief in Jesus as the Messiah or a prophet of God: those beliefs are also contrary to traditional Jewish views. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint. The belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, see shituf, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity."

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the Muslims think quite differently from the Christians about Jesus. As a Muslim woman poster once said "When Jesus returns, he will get rid of all the dogs and pigs (meaning the Christians and Jews) and will start preaching Islam" Meanwhile, as we can see, the Muslims have no problems with murdering the Christians in Muslim countries.

The Muslim Jesus, known as ?Isa

I am sure this woman Muslim poster was a Koran scholar and this anecdotal story accurately represents Islamic scripture.

In fact, the Koran states that "Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means; instead, "God raised him unto Himself"....Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the Messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)."

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why not tell us what you and your fellow Muslims think about the Gospel of Barnabas.

http://www.ahttp://www.gotquestions...ng-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

 

[montelatici]

And the Muslims think quite differently from the Christians about Jesus. As a Muslim woman poster once said "When Jesus returns, he will get rid of all the dogs and pigs (meaning the Christians and Jews) and will start preaching Islam" Meanwhile, as we can see, the Muslims have no problems with murdering the Christians in Muslim countries.

The Muslim Jesus, known as ?Isa

I am sure this woman Muslim poster was a Koran scholar and this anecdotal story accurately represents Islamic scripture.

In fact, the Koran states that "Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means; instead, "God raised him unto Himself"....Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the Messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)."

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why not tell us what you and your fellow Muslims think about the Gospel of Barnabas.

http://www.ahttp://www.gotquestions...ng-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

I am not sure what Muslims think about it, but as a practicing Roman Catholic, it is heresy to me.

 

[Sally]

I am sure this woman Muslim poster was a Koran scholar and this anecdotal story accurately represents Islamic scripture.

In fact, the Koran states that "Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means; instead, "God raised him unto Himself"....Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the Messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)."

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why not tell us what you and your fellow Muslims think about the Gospel of Barnabas.

http://www.ahttp://www.gotquestions...ng-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

I am not sure what Muslims think about it, but as a practicing Roman Catholic, it is heresy to me.

You sound more like those who are called White Widows except you conduct your Jihad on the Internet. By the way, since you know how to use Wikipedia, surely you could do some research to see how your brethren feel about that fake Gospel. Ask around. They might be happy to give you their individual thoughts.

 

[Hossfly]

I am sure this woman Muslim poster was a Koran scholar and this anecdotal story accurately represents Islamic scripture.

In fact, the Koran states that "Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles (such as healing the blind, bringing dead people back to life, etc.), all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Quran, Jesus, although appearing to have been crucified, was not killed by crucifixion or by any other means; instead, "God raised him unto Himself"....Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Quran and in Islamic literature, the most common being al-Masīḥ ("the Messiah"). Jesus is also, at times, called "Seal of the Israelite Prophets", because, in general Muslim belief, Jesus was the last prophet sent by God to guide the Children of Israel. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
Muslims believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)."

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why not tell us what you and your fellow Muslims think about the Gospel of Barnabas.

http://www.ahttp://www.gotquestions...ng-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

I am not sure what Muslims think about it, but as a practicing Roman Catholic, it is heresy to me.

A Catholic who says Hail Mariams?

 

[Roudy]

You've never heard of the Falun Gong, I suppose.

Incidentally? Most people in Israel do not think Christ was the savior nor do they worship him.

Correct and that is their religion, they did not see him as THE MESSIAH. But they did see him as one of the minor Prophets.

Where did you come up with that? Why don't you try to post fact and not fiction. While Jews are fully entitled to believe what they want, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a "minor" prophet. They think he was basically, a charlatan.

"The belief that Jesus is God, the son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish philosophical tenets. The same applies to belief in Jesus as the Messiah or a prophet of God: those beliefs are also contrary to traditional Jewish views. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint. The belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, see shituf, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity."

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Judaism has no opinion of a Jesus, you moron, it came thousands of years before him.

Individual Jews, may have differing views.

 

[Roudy]

Yep and despite all the demonization and bullshit Islamic anti semetic neo Nazi propaganda, the entire Christian world knows that all will be lost if Jerusalem was under the control of intolerant Muslim savages as opposed to Jews, who are great hosts and protectors of the rights of all religions and minorities. That is why the Baha'is have their main temple and center of their faith in Israel.

Does this idiot really think that anybody trusts Muslims and especially PALESTINIANS to be as good hosts and caretakers of other faiths?

Let's do a short review of Muslim and Palestinian "respect" for other faiths in the last century. All you will see is a trail of blood and desecration.

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

Yawn, you IslamoNazi worshippers are so fickng predictable. It's always the same repetitive drivel with you guys.

Same boring blah blah blah blah, over and over over . Almost like a Jewish wedding. Come up with something new once in a while.

 

[jillian]

Human Rights Watch is the most neutral of organizations of this type. They criticize all parties in a conflict fairly. It's just that Israeli supporters won't accept criticism.

For example from the same Human Rights Watch report:

"Hamas authorities in Gaza carried out six judicial executions in 2012, including after unfair trials, and men whom witnesses said were members of Hamas’s armed wing claimed responsibility for seven extrajudicial executions in November. The authorities frequently denied detainees access to their lawyers. Security forces conducted arbitrary arrests and tortured detainees. The authorities permitted some local human rights organizations to operate, but suppressed political dissent, free association, and peaceful assembly. Palestinian armed groups in Gaza launched more than 1,400 rockets that struck inside Israel as of November 2012, killing three civilians; a mortar shell killed a fourth civilian. The vast majority of rockets were launched indiscriminately towards populated areas."

why do you think human rights watch is fair on this subject? because they say what you want them to?

reality --- when you lob missiles into someone else's territory (i.e., Israel) people get hurt.

let me know when you or human rights watch understands that equation.

Wait a minute, the Human Rights Watch you quoted accuses Hamas of torture and of firing 1,400 rockets indiscriminately towards population areas of Israel and you complain about Human Rights Watch? Are you just a reflexive poster that doesn't read what's before him?

on the balance, they and amnesty int'l (to whom i used to donate money automatically every month) resent when israel defends itself.

in answer to your question... no.

but i also don't mindlessly think an organization is fair because it has "human rights" in its name....

so you might want to reflect upon your own knee-jerk responses.

 

[MrMax]

Abbas suggests Obama promised 67 lines - E. Jerusalem

Abbas would probably get more for his people than he's getting now if he just all-out surrendered.

 

[Phoenall]

Wait a minute, the Human Rights Watch you quoted accuses Hamas of torture and of firing 1,400 rockets indiscriminately towards population areas of Israel and you complain about Human Rights Watch? Are you just a reflexive poster that doesn't read what's before him?

Get it right they pay lip service to the muslim breaches of humanitarian law every time they are shown to be anti Jewish. If Israel respond to a rocket killing a civilian HRW call it an unwarranted attack on gazan civilians.

This is an annual report. It covers human rights violations throughout the world. If Israelis bomb civilians they get the same treatment as when any other military bombs civilians.

According to you and the other islamonazis the gazans are all civilians, even when they get blown up by the explosives they are carrying. The fact is according to the Geneva convention s they are all militia for acting as human shields

 

[Phoenall]

A simple whois on HRW gives this, highlighted part is interesting

Domain Name:HRW.ORG
Domain ID: D5105637-LROR
Creation Date: 1994-11-16T05:00:00Z
Updated Date: 2012-09-12T19:34:21Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-11-15T05:00:00Z
Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions, LLC (R63-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 2
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID:24077217-NSI
Registrant Name:Human Rights Watch
Registrant Organization:Human Rights Watch
Registrant Street: 350 Fifth Avenue, 34th Floor.
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10118
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2122161241
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.2127361300
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Admin ID:24077218-NSI
Admin Name:Walid Ayoub

Osama Walid Bin Laden Ayoub Khara Kalb Heywan?

Human Rights Watch Board of Directors:

Almost a third are Jewish. LOL

Board of Directors

Hassan Elmasry, Co-Chair [Bio]
Partner and Lead Portfolio Manager
Independent Franchise Partners, LLP

Joel Motley, Co-Chair [Bio]
Managing Director
Public Capital Advisors LLC


Wendy Keys, Vice Chair
Filmmaker
Former Executive Producer of Programming
Film Society of Lincoln Center

Susan Manilow, Vice Chair [Bio]
Human Rights Activist

Jean-Louis Servan-Schreiber
Editor and Publisher
CLÉS Magazines

Sid Sheinberg, Vice Chair [Bio]
Partner
The Bubble Factory
Former COO of MCA/Universal

John J. Studzinski CBE, Vice Chair [Bio]
Global Head, Blackstone Advisory Partners L.P.
The Blackstone Group

Michael G. Fisch
President and Chief Executive Officer
American Securities, LLC

Bruce Rabb, Secretary [Bio]
Legal Advisor to Non-Profit Organizations

Karen Herskovitz Ackman
Landscape Architect

Jorge Castañeda
Professor
New YorkUniversity
Former Foreign Minister of Mexico

Tony Elliott
Chairman
Time Out Group

Michael E. Gellert
General Partner
Windcrest Partners

Hina Jilani
Director
AGHS Legal Aid Center
Former Special Representative of the UN Secretary General on Human Rights Defenders

Betsy Karel
Photographer
Chair, Trellis Fund

Robert Kissane
President
CCS

Kimberly Marteau Emerson
Principal
KME Consulting

Oki Matsumoto
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
Monex Group, Inc.

Barry M. Meyer
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.

Aoife O’Brien
Human Rights Activist
Writer and Journalist

Joan R. Platt
Human Rights Activist

Neil Rimer
Co-Founder and General Partner
Index Ventures

Amy Rao
Founder and Chief Executive Officer
Integrated Archive Systems

Victoria Riskin
Human Rights Activist
Writer-Producer
Former President of the Writers Guild of America

Graham Robeson
Chairman, The 66 Humanitarian Foundation
Chairman, Banque Havilland

Shelley F. Rubin
Co-Founder
The Rubin Museum of Art

Kevin P. Ryan
Founder and Chief Executive Officer
Gilt Groupe

Ambassador Robin Sanders
FE3DS, LLC

Javier Solana
President
ESADE Center for Global Economy and Geopolitics
Former Secretary General of NATO

Siri Stolt-Nielsen
Artist

Darian W. Swig
Human Rights Advocate
Founder & President
Article 3 Advisors

John R. Taylor
Managing Partner
Wellspring Advisors, LLC

Amy Towers
Founder
Nduna Foundation

Marie Warburg
Director
American Council on Germany
Director
US and German Friends of the Jewish Museum Berlin

Catherine Zennström
Zennström Philanthropies

were is your evidence of your claim ?

 

[Phoenall]

You've never heard of the Falun Gong, I suppose.

Incidentally? Most people in Israel do not think Christ was the savior nor do they worship him.

Correct and that is their religion, they did not see him as THE MESSIAH. But they did see him as one of the minor Prophets.

Where did you come up with that? Why don't you try to post fact and not fiction. While Jews are fully entitled to believe what they want, they don't believe that Jesus Christ was a "minor" prophet. They think he was basically, a charlatan.

"The belief that Jesus is God, the son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish philosophical tenets. The same applies to belief in Jesus as the Messiah or a prophet of God: those beliefs are also contrary to traditional Jewish views. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[7] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint. The belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, see shituf, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity."

Judaism's view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is Still viewed as a minor prophet just not a messiah by the Jews

 

[Phoenall]

Yep and despite all the demonization and bullshit Islamic anti semetic neo Nazi propaganda, the entire Christian world knows that all will be lost if Jerusalem was under the control of intolerant Muslim savages as opposed to Jews, who are great hosts and protectors of the rights of all religions and minorities. That is why the Baha'is have their main temple and center of their faith in Israel.

Does this idiot really think that anybody trusts Muslims and especially PALESTINIANS to be as good hosts and caretakers of other faiths?

Let's do a short review of Muslim and Palestinian "respect" for other faiths in the last century. All you will see is a trail of blood and desecration.

"WASHINGTON — Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians.

The campaign by a coalition of religious leaders, international nonprofits, and activists has taken place in recent years largely behind the scenes and away from the prying eyes of the political press — and it’s being driven by a generation of Evangelicals alienated by the way their faith was yoked to Republican foreign policy during the Bush years. Now, organizations like the Telos Group and the large Christian nonprofit World Vision have joined a small army of ministers and Christian opinion-makers working to reorient Evangelicals’ stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — producing documentaries about the plight of Palestinian Christians, providing theological rationale for a more “balanced” view of the issue, and taking Evangelicals on trips to the Middle East."

New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line

More of topic deflection by the little boy