You are one of many that have already made up your mind that you won't believe. Your little bit of education when you were young is not enough for you to claim you fully understand, but you have already made up your mind not to believe because believing is much more difficult and would require more from you than you are willing to give.The "reality" is that you know nothing and are very proud to display it. I don't waste my time trying to educate someone who enjoys their ignorant state.....
you seem unable to face the simple fact that Luke never met Jesus----- and had he--
he would not be able to understand a single word Jesus said----
You are delusional. First of all, I have never even mentioned Luke other than to say that the writers of the NT lived and were around during the time of Jesus.
You really have no proof that Luke never met Jesus. Luke may not have been one of the original 12 disciples, but his writings are based on reliable sources (mostly Paul). He was a close companion of Paul (Saul) who was actually an enemy of Jesus until his encounter with Jesus on the way to Damascus. Jesus sent out 72 disciples to preach his word.....and Luke could very well have been among them. And the point I was making was that they all lived during the time of Jesus unlike your source which didn't come about until 325 AD, so quit making up shit and then acting as if I said it.
Your understanding is blinded by your hatred for Christians and you have bought into the maniacal writings of others full of hate like you. You have proven that you are no authority on the subject of Christianity, so quit pretending that you are.
Your conclusion is entirely wrong-----my entire education in Christianity came from
Christians when I was a very young child. My own family ---and relatives
never mentioned Christians------I was a teenager before I had any idea that adolf hitler was born a catholic. I never attended ANY religious education other than Christian------well-----it was actually a bit of sunday school and
holidays with Christians------so it was not really an "education" ------but it was all I
did have. What makes you think that reading the bible is a matter of hatred?
----way back when I was a kid I did not have big access to BOOKS------other
than rare trips to the little town public library and stuff here and there. -----since
I lived in a very Christian town there were little pocket sized copies of the NT all over the place. My neighbors were more worried about blacks---invading the
town public swimming pond than about me although they were also nurtured on
general Christian anti-Semitism also. I am fascinated-----where do you see hatred? I will give you some insight into "hatred" -----if you wish to be honest
and candid------tell me what a "Pharisee" is. What sort of role did they have in
"Judea/Israel" of 2000 years ago and in the life of Jesus. I have introduced you
to a very interesting -------food for thought topic. ----the topic----"what does 'pharisee' mean to you?" It's kinda like asking a white southern Baptist cracker
"what does 'N^##er' mean to you"? ----for the record----I served in the US navy so I came to know lots of white southern Baptist crackers.
Your reference to Jews for one thing, spells out "hatred". As for your education coming from Christians....there are many who call themselves Christian and know very little about Christianity....in other words, they don't practice true Christianity, they pick and choose specific scriptures in the Bible to back up some of their deep seated racism/hatred. Your use of demeaning words to refer to Jews implies some form of hatred toward them. People don't generally use insulting names for people or groups of people unless they dislike them so much to the point that they get some satisfaction in using derogatory names for them....much like they have done for blacks, hispanics and others, like "white southern baptist crackers".
Your comment "it was actually a bit of sunday school and holidays with Christians------so it was not really an "education" ------but it was all Idid have." doesn't sound like it was enough to give you a complete understanding of Christianity. It's a life-long process, and one never quits learning. The Bible is not an easy book to read and understand...so just reading the NT without using commentaries or some other form of guidance as to what certain phrases mean may cause the wrong interpretation. Yet the message is simple....believe that Jesus is the Son of God, make Him Lord of your life, and you become a Believer.
I don't know what your fascination with the Pharisees is.....but to answer your question, the Pharisees were supposed to be the "godly" people during the time of Jesus, who thought they knew everything there was to know about God, more than they actually did. They had added their own interpretations to God's Word until it had become unbearable for the Israelite to follow God's commands. Jesus called them "vipers/snakes" because they were mostly interested in their own gain than they were in following God. They were hypocrites, and we still have many today that act just like the Pharisees.
Here's what Jesus said of them....and as a Believer, I have no reason to doubt what he said.
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 23 - King James Version
your told me what you "believe" which is nothing more than the standard
Christian interpretation. I am lucky----I had no real "formal education" in
religion. Although I did go to "sunday school" a bit with a Christian playmate.
I'm sorry, but you don't pick up Christianity by osmosis.....
In other words, you didn't get it from people who actually knew what they were talking about.
And you are presuming that I don't? You base a lot of your "knowledge" on what you think is going on rather than what is actually going on.
I know what Jesus said about the Pharisees, but you base your information on some council that wasn't even around at the time of Jesus? Seems like you have it backasswards...you're the one that has taken what someone has written about it and accepted it as fact.
No, he was a Saducee.
The Pharisees stoned Stephen to death, and they were the ones that guarded the oral Jewish traditions, so yes, they would have advocated the execution of women caught in adultery.....however, in order to have her executed lawfully....they would have had to bring the man also.
You are one of many that have already made up your mind that you won't believe. Your little bit of education when you were young is not enough for you to claim you fully understand, but you have already made up your mind not to believe because believing is much more difficult and would require more from you than you are willing to give.
I'm sorry, but you don't pick up Christianity by osmosis.....
In other words, you didn't get it from people who actually knew what they were talking about.
And you are presuming that I don't? You base a lot of your "knowledge" on what you think is going on rather than what is actually going on.
I know what Jesus said about the Pharisees, but you base your information on some council that wasn't even around at the time of Jesus? Seems like you have it backasswards...you're the one that has taken what someone has written about it and accepted it as fact.
Why is it important to you to know what I think of the money-changers? What is it you think you know about the Pharisees that you think clouds my view of them?
No, he was a Saducee.
The Pharisees stoned Stephen to death, and they were the ones that guarded the oral Jewish traditions, so yes, they would have advocated the execution of women caught in adultery.....however, in order to have her executed lawfully....they would have had to bring the man also.
10 ‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Did you google it?
You really are showing your ignorance asking such an ignorant question. Herod was not one that believed in God, so why would you even suggest he might be a Pharisee?
I ran across this thread and I remember that the stoning of Rokhsahana caused a thread on the Middle East Forum. Heres an article about it.
And from the bathroom thread, Afghanistan is condemning the American States that prevent men from going into the bathroom with little girls.
But WWJD?
Islam does things like this. They oppose free thought, stone apostates, critics AND western freethinkers to death. And some of you had issues with Western Christianity , they are wimps compared to ISALM.
Afghan officials said Rokhsahana (her image pixelated) was stoned to death about a week ago in a Taliban-controlled area just outside Firozkoh (AFP Photo/)
The story of a young woman who was married against her will and then stoned to death after she was caught eloping with a man her own age is heart wrenching.
What would Jesus do?
It is written:
....he lifted himself up and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 8:7-11
Perhaps there is no greater picture of the love, mercy and forgiveness of God than in this particular story. Many theologians have speculated about what Jesus was writing on the ground. Was it the names of the men who were ready to stone her to death? Perhaps they had slept with her!
The Scriptures do not tell us. What we do know is that Jesus said to them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. Not one of those men cast that first stone. Jesus spoke the truth and the truth set them free. In an instant they knew they had no grounds to do what they were about to do.
What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.
My Pastor has a saying, "God fix me first". I believe if these men were to examine their own hearts and listen to their own conscience, they might realize they need God's help. I believe if they would remove the timber from their own eye they would be able to see clearly to remove the speck in someone else's eye.
I believe what this world needs more than anything right now, is the attitude of "God fix me first". Jesus said, Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who despitefully use you, and persecute you.
As the conscience was the catalyst in each man dropping their stones and leaving the adulterous woman to obtain mercy from God, today the conscience is still our guide to doing what is right and obtaining mercy from God.
God alone is the judge of men. Our assistance is not required. What is required of us?
He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
Micah 6:8
The best prayer?
Begins with...... God fix me first.
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Article based on news report from Yahoo News 11/3/2015
Afghan woman stoned to death for 'adultery'
Maybe we should learn from these races.
Your right, all I see here is future NYC cab drivers
