A World Without Capitalism and Tradable Shares?

[Crepitus]

It ain't gonna happen in my lifetime.

Gotta figure out how to purge all the trumpkins first.

 

[daveman]

It worked in the Soviet Union, eh comrade?

Socialism worked well enough in the Soviet Union to win WWII and put the first human being into space.

Are you disappointed?

And only 27 million dead during WWII and millions more during the purges and manufactured famines. Socialism is great ain't it .

 

[daveman]

It ain't gonna happen in my lifetime.

Gotta figure out how to purge all the trumpkins first.

Never happen. Because all the people like you are too chickenshit to get off the couch.

 

[georgephillip]

As if a mountain of one hundred and twenty million human skulls wasn't enough to convince them trying that particular political ideology (again) was a pretty bad idea . . .

How many human beings has capitalism killed over the past five centuries? How many innocent civilians has the US military murdered, maimed, or displaced since 9/11.

Clean your own house first.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If tradable shares as enshrined in corporate law "weaponized" capitalism, is it time to revisit the scene of the crime?

Opinion | A world without capitalism is not too hard to envision

"Confronting rentier capitalism and fashioning firms for which social responsibility is more than a marketing ploy requires nothing less than re-writing corporate law.

"To recognize the scale of the undertaking, it helps to return to the moment in history when tradable shares weaponized capitalism, and to ask ourselves: Are we ready to correct that 'error'?

"The moment occurred on 24 September 1599. In a timbered building off Moorgate Fields, not far from where Shakespeare was struggling to complete Hamlet, a new type of company was founded. Its ownership of the new firm, called the East India Company, was sliced into tiny pieces to be bought and sold freely...."

"To imagine what transcending capitalism might mean in practice requires rethinking the ownership of corporations.

"Imagine that shares resemble electoral votes, which can be neither bought nor sold."

Imagine that.

If socialism is so great, why does it fail over and over and over? Yes, there is income inequality where those that work hard, and create their own business, can make more money in a capitalist nation, which then others who just want to work, provide for their family and be left alone, is the middle class, and the lazy ass progs who sit on their ass all day and bitch and moan about capitalism, is the failure of humanity. Get off your ass, create something like Progressive Jeff Bezos(Amazon) and you too can be richer than you ever dreamed of. Sitting in your basement smoking dope, and typing on a keyboard, just doesnt make it..

If socialism is so great, why does it fail over and over and over?

Don't confuse a commie with reality.

 

[georgephillip]

The allure of the one world government is just that...an allure, that will destroy mankind. There is nothing peaceful that will occur in the new world govt although the deception and delusion among millions will be a profound sight to behold among the destruction and carnage.

I'm not sure abolishing tradable shares means implementing a global government. Are you finding it difficult to imagine a world without capitalism?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

As if a mountain of one hundred and twenty million human skulls wasn't enough to convince them trying that particular political ideology (again) was a pretty bad idea . . .

How many human beings has capitalism killed over the past five centuries? How many innocent civilians has the US military murdered, maimed, or displaced since 9/11.
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Clean your own house first.

Capitalism hasn't. Communism has killed 100's of millions.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The allure of the one world government is just that...an allure, that will destroy mankind. There is nothing peaceful that will occur in the new world govt although the deception and delusion among millions will be a profound sight to behold among the destruction and carnage.

I'm not sure abolishing tradable shares means implementing a global government. Are you finding it difficult to imagine a world without capitalism?

No, Im not finding it difficult as to what is about to transpire with the new world order. The deaths will be in the billions.

 

[georgephillip]

I'm quite sure Germany would have rolled over Russia if they weren't fighting Europe and the USA also.

Hitler likely made his fatal mistake when he ordered the invasion of Russia.

 

[fncceo]

I can imagine a world without Capitalism.

It's called The Stone Age.

 

[georgephillip]

If socialism is so great, why does it fail over and over and over?

If Socialism always fails, how did Stalin defeat Hitler?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They had a bit of help...

True. The US supplied a great deal of material support to its USSR allies during World War Two. I believe it is also true Soviets fought about 190 Nazi divisions in Russia compared to about ten or twelve German divisions in Europe.

it is also true Soviets fought about 190 Nazi divisions in Russia

Don't you hate it when your Nazi ally turns against you?

 

[georgephillip]

Yes, there is income inequality where those that work hard, and create their own business, can make more money in a capitalist nation, which then others who just want to work, provide for their family and be left alone, is the middle class, and the lazy ass progs wh

Were you alive in '65?
If so, how do you justify CEO pay then and now?

"Speaking of selling short, the US economy shrank by 3.5 percent in 2020, the worst contraction since World War II.

"Even so, since COVID was declared a 'national emergency' in March, the net wealth of America’s 614 billionaires grew by a combined $931 billion.

+ "At $20,000 per day, you’d have to work seven days a week for 178 years to compile $1.3 billion.

+ "In 1965, CEOs made 21 times the average worker’s pay. By 2019, they made 320 times as much as the average worker brought home."

JANUARY 29, 2021
Roaming Charges: Funny Games

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

It ain't gonna happen in my lifetime.

Gotta figure out how to purge all the trumpkins first.

They'll purge themselves out. Mostly by dying off or just plain old getting bored and moving on to a new obsession.
Eventually, you'll be left with a small minority and the rest wandering around in a Q-Anon like haze trying to find something
else to believe in.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As if a mountain of one hundred and twenty million human skulls wasn't enough to convince them trying that particular political ideology (again) was a pretty bad idea . . .

How many human beings has capitalism killed over the past five centuries? How many innocent civilians has the US military murdered, maimed, or displaced since 9/11.
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Clean your own house first.

How many human beings has capitalism killed over the past five centuries?

How does capitalism kill anyone? Be specific.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

If tradable shares as enshrined in corporate law "weaponized" capitalism, is it time to revisit the scene of the crime?

Opinion | A world without capitalism is not too hard to envision

"Confronting rentier capitalism and fashioning firms for which social responsibility is more than a marketing ploy requires nothing less than re-writing corporate law.

"To recognize the scale of the undertaking, it helps to return to the moment in history when tradable shares weaponized capitalism, and to ask ourselves: Are we ready to correct that 'error'?

"The moment occurred on 24 September 1599. In a timbered building off Moorgate Fields, not far from where Shakespeare was struggling to complete Hamlet, a new type of company was founded. Its ownership of the new firm, called the East India Company, was sliced into tiny pieces to be bought and sold freely...."

"To imagine what transcending capitalism might mean in practice requires rethinking the ownership of corporations.

"Imagine that shares resemble electoral votes, which can be neither bought nor sold."

Imagine that.

Don't change our thing comrade, instead move cupcake.

 

[georgephillip]

Humans wouldn't exist today if early humans had used capitalism instead of socialism

Sharing and caring is where humanity began.
Tradable shares are a relic of the Divine Right of Kings.

Primitive communism - Wikipedia.

"Primitive communism is a way of describing the gift economies of hunter-gatherers throughout history, where resources and property hunted and gathered are shared with all members of a group, in accordance with individual needs.

"In political sociology and anthropology, it is also a concept often credited to Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels for originating, who wrote that hunter-gatherer societies were traditionally based on egalitarian social relations and common ownership."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, there is income inequality where those that work hard, and create their own business, can make more money in a capitalist nation, which then others who just want to work, provide for their family and be left alone, is the middle class, and the lazy ass progs wh

Were you alive in '65?
If so, how do you justify CEO pay then and now?

"Speaking of selling short, the US economy shrank by 3.5 percent in 2020, the worst contraction since World War II.

"Even so, since COVID was declared a 'national emergency' in March, the net wealth of America’s 614 billionaires grew by a combined $931 billion.

+ "At $20,000 per day, you’d have to work seven days a week for 178 years to compile $1.3 billion.

+ "In 1965, CEOs made 21 times the average worker’s pay. By 2019, they made 320 times as much as the average worker brought home."

JANUARY 29, 2021
Roaming Charges: Funny Games

In 1965, CEOs made 21 times the average worker’s pay. By 2019, they made 320 times as much as the average worker brought home."

Liar.

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah, it was all down hill after 1945.

Especially 2020

Roaming Charges: Funny Games - CounterPunch.org

"The poverty rate increased 2.4 percentage points from June to December 2020 (when it reached 11.8%), nearly double the largest annual increase in poverty since the 1960s.

"Increases in poverty rate were especially high for Blacks (up 5.4 percentage points, to 23.6%).

"In all, an additional 8 million Americans are now considered 'newly poor'– twice the highest annual increase in poverty in over a half-century.

Too much MAGA?

 

[georgephillip]

Nobody who understands capitalism would argue that. We get monopoly because it's too easy to buy our politicians. We need campaign finance reform. None of this is the fault of capitalism.

How much fault does the corporation deserve?