A while back I started a thread asking the question, "when do the resignations begin?"

berg80 said:
I looked for it but couldn't find it. Perhaps it was naive to think many people would quit given the time and effort P 2025 put in to find unwavering loyalists to serve under Don. But I'm still astonished at the lack of high profile people in the trump government refusing to go along with the immoral, illegal, unconstitutional actions it has taken.

Then I saw this. It was encouraging and disturbing at the same time.

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit​

WASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unit charged with defending against legal challenges to signature Trump administration policies - such as restricting birthright citizenship and slashing funding to Harvard University - has lost nearly two-thirds of its staff, according to a list seen by Reuters.
Sixty-nine of the roughly 110 lawyers in the Federal Programs Branch have voluntarily left the unit since President Donald Trump's election in November or have announced plans to leave, according to the list compiled by former Justice Department lawyers and reviewed by Reuters.

Basically, there are two ways to interpret this turn of events. One, the lawyers who resigned (in all likelihood ones who were employed by the DoJ pre-trump) could not in good conscience defend trump policies and maintain any degree personal integrity or fidelity to the Constitution. Two, good riddance to those deep state traitors who refused to do as they were told.

Those disparate views are representative of the divide between the two sides we find ourselves dealing with every day. And while I agree no organization can function efficiently with insubordinate employees refusing to obey instructions, I submit the problem isn't the disobedience but rather the instructions. Ethical attorneys with an allegiance to the rule of law are exactly the kind of people we want working for us. Their absence will make the country weaker, not better. As will the absence of the other members of the FBI and DoJ fired in a purge of officials who obeyed instructions to investigate criminals. One of whom happens to be the prez.
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Hey, that's right.Twenty twenty five is over, and so I guess project twenty twenty five is over, also. How successful was it?

Your side's version of it called Project Bedwet 25-33 has been a stunning success, and it still has seven more years to go!

By successful, I mean that you guys have followed it to the letter.

Thread 'Introducing Project Bedwet 25-33!' Introducing Project Bedwet 25-33!
 
Seymour Flops said:
Hey, that's right.Twenty twenty five is over, and so I guess project twenty twenty five is over, also. How successful was it?

Your side's version of it called Project Bedwet 25-33 has been a stunning success, and it still has seven more years to go!

By successful, I mean that you guys have followed it to the letter.

Thread 'Introducing Project Bedwet 25-33!' Introducing Project Bedwet 25-33!
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Six Prosecutors Quit Over Push to Investigate ICE Shooting Victim’s Widow​

Six federal prosecutors in Minnesota resigned on Tuesday over the Justice Department’s push to investigate the widow of a woman killed by an ICE agent and the department’s reluctance to investigate the shooter, according to people with knowledge of their decision.

Joseph H. Thompson, who was second in command at the U.S. attorney’s office and oversaw a sprawling fraud investigation that has roiled Minnesota’s political landscape, was among those who quit on Tuesday, according to three people with knowledge of the decision.

Mr. Thompson’s resignation came after senior Justice Department officials pressed for a criminal investigation into the actions of the widow of Renee Nicole Good, the Minneapolis woman killed by an ICE agent on Wednesday.

Mr. Thompson, 47, a career prosecutor, objected to that approach, as well as to the Justice Department’s refusal to include state officials in investigating whether the shooting itself was lawful, the people familiar with his decision said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/us/prosecutors-doj-resignation-ice-shooting.html

Care to comment?
 
berg80 said:

Six Prosecutors Quit Over Push to Investigate ICE Shooting Victim’s Widow​

Six federal prosecutors in Minnesota resigned on Tuesday over the Justice Department’s push to investigate the widow of a woman killed by an ICE agent and the department’s reluctance to investigate the shooter, according to people with knowledge of their decision.

Joseph H. Thompson, who was second in command at the U.S. attorney’s office and oversaw a sprawling fraud investigation that has roiled Minnesota’s political landscape, was among those who quit on Tuesday, according to three people with knowledge of the decision.

Mr. Thompson’s resignation came after senior Justice Department officials pressed for a criminal investigation into the actions of the widow of Renee Nicole Good, the Minneapolis woman killed by an ICE agent on Wednesday.

Mr. Thompson, 47, a career prosecutor, objected to that approach, as well as to the Justice Department’s refusal to include state officials in investigating whether the shooting itself was lawful, the people familiar with his decision said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/us/prosecutors-doj-resignation-ice-shooting.html

Care to comment?
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Anything to protect the American Gestapo...ICE.
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Here we have three of the "worst of the worst" being taken in custody.​
 
Every day that liberals/leftists/Democrats leave government service is a good day.
 
otto105 said:
Who knew the a Merica first policy of maga is to protect protesters abroad while killing them here first.
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“Help is on the way! They will be wearing masks and will have ICE vests on”
 
OODA_Loop said:
What is basic info?

Please post the link you posted earlier in the Zone 1 thread you got closed where they approach an immigrant at the gas pump. Let’s debate that.
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Will this do?

AI Overview

Video footage from Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota, in January 2026, shows
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Border Patrol agents stopping individuals at gas stations and demanding identification or proof of citizenship. These incidents have prompted legal experts and civil rights advocates to clarify individuals' rights during such encounters.

Your Rights if an ICE Agent Asks for ID
You generally have rights when interacting with immigration officials in public spaces.
  • You have the right to remain silent. You are not required to answer questions about your citizenship, birthplace, or immigration status.
  • You do not have to carry proof of citizenship. U.S. citizens are not obligated by law to carry documentation proving their citizenship.
  • You can refuse to show identification unless an officer has a judicial warrant, probable cause to believe you are committing a crime, or reasonable suspicion that you are in the U.S. illegally. However, refusing a lawful order can lead to detention in certain circumstances.
 
berg80 said:
Will this do?

AI Overview

Video footage from Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota, in January 2026, shows
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Border Patrol agents stopping individuals at gas stations and demanding identification or proof of citizenship. These incidents have prompted legal experts and civil rights advocates to clarify individuals' rights during such encounters.

Your Rights if an ICE Agent Asks for ID
You generally have rights when interacting with immigration officials in public spaces.
  • You have the right to remain silent. You are not required to answer questions about your citizenship, birthplace, or immigration status.
  • You do not have to carry proof of citizenship. U.S. citizens are not obligated by law to carry documentation proving their citizenship.
  • You can refuse to show identification unless an officer has a judicial warrant, probable cause to believe you are committing a crime, or reasonable suspicion that you are in the U.S. illegally. However, refusing a lawful order can lead to detention in certain circumstances.
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What are your rights if you're not a citizen and even if here legally and ICE ask you for ID?

You show it or get detained until they can verify.
 
berg80 said:
Will this do?

AI Overview

Video footage from Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota, in January 2026, shows
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Border Patrol agents stopping individuals at gas stations and demanding identification or proof of citizenship. These incidents have prompted legal experts and civil rights advocates to clarify individuals' rights during such encounters.

Your Rights if an ICE Agent Asks for ID
You generally have rights when interacting with immigration officials in public spaces.
  • You have the right to remain silent. You are not required to answer questions about your citizenship, birthplace, or immigration status.
  • You do not have to carry proof of citizenship. U.S. citizens are not obligated by law to carry documentation proving their citizenship.
  • You can refuse to show identification unless an officer has a judicial warrant, probable cause to believe you are committing a crime, or reasonable suspicion that you are in the U.S. illegally. However, refusing a lawful order can lead to detention in certain circumstances.
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Shouldn’t these people be wearing Brown Shirts? The NAZIs of the 21st Century.

“WHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS?”
 
otto105 said:
Who knew the a Merica first policy of maga is to protect protesters abroad while killing them here first.
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Indeed. Dotard has more concern about Iranians protesting abuses there than Americans protesting abuses here.
 
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berg80 said:
I looked for it but couldn't find it. Perhaps it was naive to think many people would quit given the time and effort P 2025 put in to find unwavering loyalists to serve under Don. But I'm still astonished at the lack of high profile people in the trump government refusing to go along with the immoral, illegal, unconstitutional actions it has taken.

Then I saw this. It was encouraging and disturbing at the same time.

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit​

WASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unit charged with defending against legal challenges to signature Trump administration policies - such as restricting birthright citizenship and slashing funding to Harvard University - has lost nearly two-thirds of its staff, according to a list seen by Reuters.
Sixty-nine of the roughly 110 lawyers in the Federal Programs Branch have voluntarily left the unit since President Donald Trump's election in November or have announced plans to leave, according to the list compiled by former Justice Department lawyers and reviewed by Reuters.

Basically, there are two ways to interpret this turn of events. One, the lawyers who resigned (in all likelihood ones who were employed by the DoJ pre-trump) could not in good conscience defend trump policies and maintain any degree personal integrity or fidelity to the Constitution. Two, good riddance to those deep state traitors who refused to do as they were told.

Those disparate views are representative of the divide between the two sides we find ourselves dealing with every day. And while I agree no organization can function efficiently with insubordinate employees refusing to obey instructions, I submit the problem isn't the disobedience but rather the instructions. Ethical attorneys with an allegiance to the rule of law are exactly the kind of people we want working for us. Their absence will make the country weaker, not better. As will the absence of the other members of the FBI and DoJ fired in a purge of officials who obeyed instructions to investigate criminals. One of whom happens to be the prez.
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When do the resignations in Minn begin
 
kyzr said:
Not surprising that the leftist lawyers would rather quit than carry the ball for Republican policies.

I'm sure there are many lawyers who would be glad to take their place.
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I don't see this in the least of problems. WTF cares?
 
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