A Tale of Two Fundraisers

[MisterBeale]

Hmm. Sickle Cell Anemia is more common in blacks. Science believes it evolved as a mechanism to fight malaria.

Because of this, we can clearly see that the black population evolved differently than the white population.

Pretty much the point, is it not?

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Oh. . . so you believe Sickle Cell Anemia only occurs in black people, is that it?



I am sure, by the very statement, "is more common in blacks," means, you are fully aware that your adherence to pseudo-science is garbage.

 

[80zephyr]

All humans share 100% of their DNA, and any human can breed viable offspring with any other human.

You are in over your head, I suggest you quit while you are ahead.

Whether you can breed or not was not the point. It is the SMALL differences that separate us. All dogs can breed viable offspring. Are you really suggesting that a German Shepard and a Shih Tzu are the same?

BTW, humans DO NOT share 100% of their DNA. Genetic variation between human populations is 5.4 percent.

 

[80zephyr]

Oh. . . so you believe Sickle Cell Anemia only occurs in black people, is that it?



I am sure, by the very statement, "is more common in blacks," means, you are fully aware that your adherence to pseudo-science is garbage.

I'm aware that, as a rule, blacks suffer from it at a greater rate?

Why are you so triggered? Why are you denying facts?

 

[westwall]

Hmm. Sickle Cell Anemia is more common in blacks. Science believes it evolved as a mechanism to fight malaria.

Because of this, we can clearly see that the black population evolved differently than the white population.

Pretty much the point, is it not?

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Yes, and where is malaria found? Mainly Africa. Whites are resistant to diseases that blacks aren't and visa versa.

What that means is the immune systems WORK THE SAME, they resist the diseases of the regions they are from.

If you drop a bunch of white people into Africa you will see similar genetic modifications through time. That's how the immune system works.

You proved my point, not yours.

 

[IM2]

LBJ started the war against poverty. After sixty years, we are continuing to lose the war worse every year.

Actually poverty is lower than it was during LBJ. Everything you said is wrong. It's time those on the right stopped lying to themselves.

 

[MisterBeale]

Whether you can breed or not was not the point. It is the SMALL differences that separate us. All dogs can breed viable offspring. Are you really suggesting that a German Shepard and a Shih Tzu are the same?

BTW, humans DO NOT share 100% of their DNA. Genetic variation between human populations is 5.4 percent.

Are you implying that some humans are pigs!

 

[80zephyr]

Yes, and where is malaria found? Mainly Africa. Whites are resistant to diseases that blacks aren't and visa versa.

What that means is the immune systems WORK THE SAME, they resist the diseases of the regions they are from.

If you drop a bunch of white people into Africa you will see similar genetic modifications through time. That's how the immune system works.

You proved my point, not yours.

No, I prove my point. That different populations can evolve differently. Sure its based on environmental factors. So what?

Does not change the fact that groups can evolve differently.

 

[80zephyr]

Are you implying that some humans are pigs!

Well, now we know you are losing.

 

[Independent thinker]

Actually poverty is lower than it was during LBJ. Everything you said is wrong. It's time those on the right stopped lying to themselves.

LOL. So, now you're saying that things are better under Trump and that the left have been lying all of those years?

 

[MisterBeale]

Are you really suggesting that a German Shepard and a Shih Tzu are the same?

Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy​

Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy - Evolution: Education and Outreach

In 1956, evolutionary biologist J.B.S. Haldane posed a question to anthropologists: “Are the biological differences between human groups comparable with those between groups of domestic animals such as greyhounds and bulldogs…?” It reads as if it were posted on social media today. The analogy...

evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com

 

[MisterBeale]

Well, now we know you are losing.

No, I'm just getting tired of trying to reason with a bigot. Trying to reason with you is about as fruitful as trying to reason with one of our other board racists. . . . IM2.

 

[80zephyr]

Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy​

Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy - Evolution: Education and Outreach

In 1956, evolutionary biologist J.B.S. Haldane posed a question to anthropologists: “Are the biological differences between human groups comparable with those between groups of domestic animals such as greyhounds and bulldogs…?” It reads as if it were posted on social media today. The analogy...

evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com

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Liberal junk science. Every animal in nature follows the same laws. Except for humans. They are "special".

Hey, either you believe in evolution or you don't. Which is it?

 

[IM2]

IM2, you offer absolutely no hope for any kind of reconciliation between blacks and whites. If whites are truly the way you state, why are you still here? Whats in it for you?

Why not find a place that is majority black and live happily ever after?

Whites like you are the problem. You want to sit on your white ass and criticize every other race because the problem whites have made for them, yet when it comes to criticizing whites then you wantyt tal about how its me who dos't offer any hope of recnciiation because I refuse to accet your racist attitude.

Why do whites ask us to move? If your white ass is unhappy, nove to an al white country. We don't have to listen to your bullshit and just take it. You have to face the truth of what whites have done then work to make sure you stop doing it. Instead, you live in the delusion of white perfection or white superiority, even to the point of genetics. You are to stupid to see how Amerca was socially engineered to favor whites then rant about some kind of fake ass liberal scia engineering when what was attempted was a half ass correction to fix the damage created by the mistakes whites made.

Right now, whites like you in America are talking about a 36 trillion dollar deficit and national debt, yet in the last 35 years alone, white racism has cost America over 50 trillion dollars. Yet you are still ignorantly posting your white supremacist bulshit as if it is fact and reality. There will be no reconciliation on your terms only. It is time for whites to admit wrongs and change. Millions are doing it, so you either do so or get run over because the day is coming very soon that whites will not be the majority, and if those like you continue, whites might get back what they have given to others.

 

[westwall]

No, I prove my point. That different populations can evolve differently. Sure its based on environmental factors. So what?

Does not change the fact that groups can evolve differently.

No, you merely show that the populations have been seperate for tens of thousands of years.

Native Americans don't process alcohol well. They were never exposed to it till just a couple of centuries ago. Slowly, they will build a tolerance to it.

That's how the immune system works. All you did was show blacks lived in Africa with the diseases endemic to that continent, and whites lived elsewhere.

 

[80zephyr]

No, I'm just getting tired of trying to reason with a bigot. Trying to reason with you is about as fruitful as trying to reason with one of our other board racists. . . . IM2.

Facts are not racist. They simply are.

 

[westwall]

No, I prove my point. That different populations can evolve differently. Sure its based on environmental factors. So what?

Does not change the fact that groups can evolve differently.

Proving my point again.

 

[80zephyr]

Whites like you are the problem. You want to sit on your white ass and criticize every other race because the problem whites have made for them, yet when it comes to criticizing whites then you wantyt tal about how its me who dos't offer any hope of recnciiation because I refuse to accet your racist attitude.

Why do whites ask us to move? If your white ass is unhappy, nove to an al white country. We don't have to listen to your bullshit and just take it. You have to face the truth of what whites have done then work to make sure you stop doing it. Instead, you live in the delusion of white perfection or white superiority, even to the point of genetics. You are to stupid to see how Amerca was socially engineered to favor whites then rant about some kind of fake ass liberal scia engineering when what was attempted was a half ass correction to fix the damage created by the mistakes whites made.

Right now, whites like you in America are talking about a 36 trillion dollar deficit and national debt, yet in the last 35 years alone, white racism has cost America over 50 trillion dollars. Yet you are still ignorantly posting your white supremacist bulshit as if it is fact and reality. There will be no reconciliation on your terms only. It is time for whites to admit wrongs and change. Millions are doing it, so you either do so or get run over because the day is coming very soon that whites will not be the majority, and if those like you continue, whites might get back what they have given to others.

Wow. You attribute things to me that I did not say, or even think. I am quite happy here. You don't seem to be, hence my question.

 

[MisterBeale]

Hey, either you believe in evolution or you don't.

The theory of evolution has, in many ways been debunked. I think what you mean to say. . is "natural selection."

Liberal junk science.

So in one breath you call natural selection "Liberal junk science," and then in the next, you claim it backs up your bigoted political ideology?

That's rich, it really is.


".. . . Present human biogeographic variation has been shaped by this Pleistocene migration and gene flow, plus more than 50,000 years of subsequent gene flow, genetic isolation, genetic drift, selection, epigenetic change, and coevolution with other species, not to mention culture (Simonti et al. 2016; Dannemann and Kelso 2017; Racimo et al. 2015). As a result of the effects of these different evolutionary forces, while a number of very rare (and usually very young) alleles may be geographically localized, the majority of common genetic variants are not private to a particular continent, and are often shared across multiple regions (The 1000 Genomes Project Consortium 2015). This is because, in contrast with dogs, no modern human populations have ever been completely reproductively isolated over many generations.

Our understanding of Canis lupus familiaris (purebred dogs, mixed breed dogs, and “village” dogs) origins is also growing in complexity. All dogs are descended from ancient wolves (Vilà et al. 1997), but some researchers have advanced a dual origin hypothesis (Frantz et al. 2016) with centers in southern China by 15 kya (Wang et al. 2016) and in Europe between 32 and 18 kya (Thalmann et al. 2013) or 20–40 kya (Botigué et al. 2017). Present biogeographic variation in domestic dogs is the result of all the same mechanisms of evolutionary processes that affect humans, as well as domestication via coevolution, cohabitation, mutualism, and intentional breeding or “artificial selection” by humans. . . "

 

[IM2]

No, I'm just getting tired of trying to reason with a bigot. Trying to reason with you is about as fruitful as trying to reason with one of our other board racists. . . . IM2.

I'm no racist, but whites who suffer from white fragility believe that any black person who unapologetically criticizes what whites have done and what right-wing whites continue to do is a racist. It doesn't seem to matter that the black person is talking about or targeting a specific part of the white population; the person with white fragility always wants to make it about all white people because they must be the victim.

 

[80zephyr]

No, you merely show that the populations have been seperate for tens of thousands of years.

Native Americans don't process alcohol well. They were never exposed to it till just a couple of centuries ago. Slowly, they will build a tolerance to it.

That's how the immune system works. All you did was show blacks lived in Africa with the diseases endemic to that continent, and whites lived elsewhere.

Just how in hell do you think people evolve differently? Why is it that if you get a DNA test, they can tell where in the world you came from? Its because people evolved differently in different locations all over the planet.

Again, showing what I say to be true.