A simpering Trump now refuses to work

If that were true they wouldn't have shown up for yesterdays meeting.

Nah. He showed up for that meeting to ream some asses which he did. He then left.

One real short meeting.

Go Trump.
Well, it is obvious that you and folks like you can't see through DJTs reality TV theatrics. A 1 to 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is a huge deal that every state in the Union wants a piece of. And remember DJT is the one that heralded this as a bipartisan $2 trillion infrastructure plan. instead of negotiating sources of funding and projects he threw a Trump classic tantrum.
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
IF trump was as smart as you nitwits give him credit for he'd have walked into that meeting with a legit infrastructure plan and ask the dems what they think of it ,,what changes ,,work with them The pos would have looked so good BUT once an AH always an AH
 
How's the DOW doing ? You know the one the POS bragged about all the time You have put a mentally disabled man in our WH and he's intent on destroying America like he's done with so many of his own businesses
Everything is doing great. Even though everything the democrats trying to reverse it.
DOW off 318 as of 11am NAS off 110
Oh there is no trade war all parties are talking??? bullshit
 
We're working on our 5th straight month of DOW sinking Many years since that has happened Thanks scump One hope I have is that all republicans are feeling the pain too as they ask trump ""can I have another""
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

Republican Richard Nixon and Democrat Bill Clinton both faced impeachment, yet worked with their opposing party in Congress to move legislation forward despite the threat of removal from office and ugly criticism. Do you know why? Because despite their flaws, they believed they owed the American people a duty to do their job, despite the outcome of investigations of their wrongdoing. Not so with Donald Trump. This simpering, cowardly man simply refuses to work with Democrats on anything until all investigations stop. America elected this man to do a job, and now he won't. Nixon and Clinton, despite their flaws were both far better Presidents than this pathetic excuse for a man.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts. :bye1:



Trump refuses to work with Democrats amid simmering impeachment debate

I think the Republican end of Congress should also refuse to work with the Democrats. It's not like they're doing any work anyway.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, in the meantime, should "request" ten years of tax returns from all the Democrat House leadership, and follow through with subpoenas if necessary. They really need to check and see if "the IRS is doing its job." :113:
A beautiful thing from "afar "
~~~~~~~~Trump’s Republican Party~~~~~~~~

Let this be a warning in spades,BK, Trump is dragging your party through the pig farm slug pit. Please hold your nose, don’t breathe or open your eyes because you be in the disgusted land of ooze.

If you don’t save your party from this pathological liar you will not only lose what integrity you have but every seat in Congress.

Trump is single handily destroying the republican Party
 
I said it yesterday that the result of his actions here would be these sorts of statements.

I also said the dems had no intention of doing any deal that would reflect well on him prior to the election and I still think that is 110% true.

The difference is Nancy and Chuck are career politicians and know that optics are important so they'll play their game and pretend to be working on things they have every intention of poison pilling or finding a reason not to pass.

Trump is relying on his own experience of boardroom negotiations, out of the public eye, where absolutist positions can work at times. He is handing the dems leverage by losing the optics battle on this one and would be better served to play along with their bullshit in this case, as he can't simply make a statement that he's done working with a year and a half until the next election.

He has now painted himself into a corner on this issue. He'll have to buckle to work on anything, as the dems will not stop their bullshit, in which case the dems win, or he'll have to follow through and do nothing, in which case the dems win. The sooner he walks this back the better for him and if he doesn't he's going to hand them a tool for the campaign season. He needs to be more strategic with these people, as he played right into their hands this time....
And better still Bet the Chinese want him the hell out too so they'll be dealing with the moron from strength


I'd agree that China wants him gone, although that is arguably an argument in Trump's favor.

China is not our friend....
 
And if Trump had stated right before the meeting to the press they were both hiding something, what would their reaction have been?

Schumer, Pelosi refuse to meet with Trump as shutdown showdown begins
Democrats turn down White House invitation for shutdown talks



The Dems don't want to work with Trump. That's a fact jack.
If that were true they wouldn't have shown up for yesterdays meeting.


Sure they would have. It was political posturing by Chuck and Nancy.
Is that why THEY showed up to the meeting, donnie had his temper tantrum and then held a news conference with a pre-made sign? Because THEY were politically posturing? :71:
 
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

Republican Richard Nixon and Democrat Bill Clinton both faced impeachment, yet worked with their opposing party in Congress to move legislation forward despite the threat of removal from office and ugly criticism. Do you know why? Because despite their flaws, they believed they owed the American people a duty to do their job, despite the outcome of investigations of their wrongdoing. Not so with Donald Trump. This simpering, cowardly man simply refuses to work with Democrats on anything until all investigations stop. America elected this man to do a job, and now he won't. Nixon and Clinton, despite their flaws were both far better Presidents than this pathetic excuse for a man.

Those are the facts Jack - Just the facts. :bye1:



Trump refuses to work with Democrats amid simmering impeachment debate

I think the Republican end of Congress should also refuse to work with the Democrats. It's not like they're doing any work anyway.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, in the meantime, should "request" ten years of tax returns from all the Democrat House leadership, and follow through with subpoenas if necessary. They really need to check and see if "the IRS is doing its job." :113:
A beautiful thing from "afar "
~~~~~~~~Trump’s Republican Party~~~~~~~~

Let this be a warning in spades,BK, Trump is dragging your party through the pig farm slug pit. Please hold your nose, don’t breathe or open your eyes because you be in the disgusted land of ooze.

If you don’t save your party from this pathological liar you will not only lose what integrity you have but every seat in Congress.

Trump is single handily destroying the republican Party



I don't see a path for the Never Trumper Republicans to be able to vanquish the liberals next year, ed.

Donald J. Trump is their only chance. If Bill Weld were nominated, he'd get schlonged by any of the D's. Ditto for Kasich
 
Nah. He showed up for that meeting to ream some asses which he did. He then left.

One real short meeting.

Go Trump.
Well, it is obvious that you and folks like you can't see through DJTs reality TV theatrics. A 1 to 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is a huge deal that every state in the Union wants a piece of. And remember DJT is the one that heralded this as a bipartisan $2 trillion infrastructure plan. instead of negotiating sources of funding and projects he threw a Trump classic tantrum.
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
So far it is. His tax break for the wealthy and the corporations.
I know lots of people who benefited from that tax break some own small businesses so good of you to lie about though.

On another note do you really think that even without that tax break it would have amounted to a trillion or two trillion dollar savings. No one could be that stupid.
 
I said it yesterday that the result of his actions here would be these sorts of statements.

I also said the dems had no intention of doing any deal that would reflect well on him prior to the election and I still think that is 110% true.

The difference is Nancy and Chuck are career politicians and know that optics are important so they'll play their game and pretend to be working on things they have every intention of poison pilling or finding a reason not to pass.

Trump is relying on his own experience of boardroom negotiations, out of the public eye, where absolutist positions can work at times. He is handing the dems leverage by losing the optics battle on this one and would be better served to play along with their bullshit in this case, as he can't simply make a statement that he's done working with a year and a half until the next election.

He has now painted himself into a corner on this issue. He'll have to buckle to work on anything, as the dems will not stop their bullshit, in which case the dems win, or he'll have to follow through and do nothing, in which case the dems win. The sooner he walks this back the better for him and if he doesn't he's going to hand them a tool for the campaign season. He needs to be more strategic with these people, as he played right into their hands this time....
And better still Bet the Chinese want him the hell out too so they'll be dealing with the moron from strength


I'd agree that China wants him gone, although that is arguably an argument in Trump's favor.

China is not our friend....
I agree 100% but if this no deal keeps up for long trump imho will be gone and like the song says ""thank God and greyhound he's gone""
 
Well, it is obvious that you and folks like you can't see through DJTs reality TV theatrics. A 1 to 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is a huge deal that every state in the Union wants a piece of. And remember DJT is the one that heralded this as a bipartisan $2 trillion infrastructure plan. instead of negotiating sources of funding and projects he threw a Trump classic tantrum.
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
So far it is. His tax break for the wealthy and the corporations.
I know lots of people who benefited from that tax break some own small businesses so good of you to lie about though.

On another note do you really think that even without that tax break it would have amounted to a trillion or two trillion dollar savings. No one could be that stupid.
Yes at least a trillion but not 2.....and how much has our debt risen?
 
Nah. He showed up for that meeting to ream some asses which he did. He then left.

One real short meeting.

Go Trump.
Well, it is obvious that you and folks like you can't see through DJTs reality TV theatrics. A 1 to 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is a huge deal that every state in the Union wants a piece of. And remember DJT is the one that heralded this as a bipartisan $2 trillion infrastructure plan. instead of negotiating sources of funding and projects he threw a Trump classic tantrum.
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
IF trump was as smart as you nitwits give him credit for he'd have walked into that meeting with a legit infrastructure plan and ask the dems what they think of it ,,what changes ,,work with them The pos would have looked so good BUT once an AH always an AH
Why bother nitwits like you would never understand that we don't have the money for infrastructure. We have had many years of both parties in office, both parties in control how many trillion dollar infrasturucture projects have been taken up? He'll flint Michigan has been how many years under democrat control and still has a water problem. If a city that is under one party control can't straighten out one infrasturucture problem what makes any clown think that a bipartisan nation wide one can work?

Explain where you think that money is going to come from?
 
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
So far it is. His tax break for the wealthy and the corporations.
I know lots of people who benefited from that tax break some own small businesses so good of you to lie about though.

On another note do you really think that even without that tax break it would have amounted to a trillion or two trillion dollar savings. No one could be that stupid.
Yes at least a trillion but not 2.....and how much has our debt risen?
Lol you really think that we would have saved a trillion? Is that because you think that number comes after a hundred?
 
The Dems don't want to work with Trump. That's a fact jack.
If that were true they wouldn't have shown up for yesterdays meeting.

Nah. He showed up for that meeting to ream some asses which he did. He then left.

One real short meeting.

Go Trump.
Well, it is obvious that you and folks like you can't see through DJTs reality TV theatrics. A 1 to 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is a huge deal that every state in the Union wants a piece of. And remember DJT is the one that heralded this as a bipartisan $2 trillion infrastructure plan. instead of negotiating sources of funding and projects he threw a Trump classic tantrum.

LMAO I've never seen Trump throw a tantrum about anything. He's a businessman who knows how to get things done.

I have no doubt the Dems want that infrastructure bill passed as long they can hang shit all over it. By the time they get done it will look like a Christmas tree full of ornaments.

Kinda hard negotiate with idiots. Idiots who run the Dem House.
Count on the fucking DEMs to, in the middle of the night tack on universal health care to any infrastructure bill.
These assholes are famous for that sort of bullshit!
 
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
So far it is. His tax break for the wealthy and the corporations.
I know lots of people who benefited from that tax break some own small businesses so good of you to lie about though.

On another note do you really think that even without that tax break it would have amounted to a trillion or two trillion dollar savings. No one could be that stupid.
Yes at least a trillion but not 2.....and how much has our debt risen?

B. Hussein O convinced the people that debt doesn't matter, ed. That's not much of a political point at all
 
Well, it is obvious that you and folks like you can't see through DJTs reality TV theatrics. A 1 to 2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill is a huge deal that every state in the Union wants a piece of. And remember DJT is the one that heralded this as a bipartisan $2 trillion infrastructure plan. instead of negotiating sources of funding and projects he threw a Trump classic tantrum.
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
IF trump was as smart as you nitwits give him credit for he'd have walked into that meeting with a legit infrastructure plan and ask the dems what they think of it ,,what changes ,,work with them The pos would have looked so good BUT once an AH always an AH
Why bother nitwits like you would never understand that we don't have the money for infrastructure. We have had many years of both parties in office, both parties in control how many trillion dollar infrasturucture projects have been taken up? He'll flint Michigan has been how many years under democrat control and still has a water problem. If a city that is under one party control can't straighten out one infrasturucture problem what makes any clown think that a bipartisan nation wide one can work?

Explain where you think that money is going to come from?
Well I'm not sure but evidently you don't think there's much BLOAT in our economy?/ So much BS added by both parties Surely smart people can find cuts to get the important infrastructure bill going Too bad republicans are just giving lip service
 
How's the DOW doing ? You know the one the POS bragged about all the time You have put a mentally disabled man in our WH and he's intent on destroying America like he's done with so many of his own businesses
Everything is doing great. Even though everything the democrats trying to reverse it.
DOW off 318 as of 11am NAS off 110
Oh there is no trade war all parties are talking??? bullshit
They go up or down, that's what they do. In the end it will be good for us. Why do you hate that?
 
Democrats don't seem to understand economics at all. Where do they think that the money for infrastructure projects will come from? They are already touting Medicare for all, reparations, the new crazy green deal and other give aways. ACA costs millions each year, snap, welfare and other programs burn into not only the taxes taken in but enlarge the deficit.


Sure, the D's understand economics, and they know that their plans if implemented would put the US economy into the shitter.

But that's their goal. The crappier the economy, the more dependent people are on the federal government, and they more loyalty they get from the people. It isn't a coincidence that the D's always win big time in the nation's Housing Projects.
I think you missed one important item. They were hoping to hang the increase in debt on Trump. Claim it was all his fault.
IF trump was as smart as you nitwits give him credit for he'd have walked into that meeting with a legit infrastructure plan and ask the dems what they think of it ,,what changes ,,work with them The pos would have looked so good BUT once an AH always an AH
Why bother nitwits like you would never understand that we don't have the money for infrastructure. We have had many years of both parties in office, both parties in control how many trillion dollar infrasturucture projects have been taken up? He'll flint Michigan has been how many years under democrat control and still has a water problem. If a city that is under one party control can't straighten out one infrasturucture problem what makes any clown think that a bipartisan nation wide one can work?

Explain where you think that money is going to come from?
Well I'm not sure but evidently you don't think there's much BLOAT in our economy?/ So much BS added by both parties Surely smart people can find cuts to get the important infrastructure bill going Too bad republicans are just giving lip service



Mr. Romney proposed eliminating government waste, Mr. Obama wasn't interested and the voters concurred.

In the event the let wins on this basis, however, they will be held to the promise to balance the budget and get rid of waste
 
I said it yesterday that the result of his actions here would be these sorts of statements.

I also said the dems had no intention of doing any deal that would reflect well on him prior to the election and I still think that is 110% true.

The difference is Nancy and Chuck are career politicians and know that optics are important so they'll play their game and pretend to be working on things they have every intention of poison pilling or finding a reason not to pass.

Trump is relying on his own experience of boardroom negotiations, out of the public eye, where absolutist positions can work at times. He is handing the dems leverage by losing the optics battle on this one and would be better served to play along with their bullshit in this case, as he can't simply make a statement that he's done working with a year and a half until the next election.

He has now painted himself into a corner on this issue. He'll have to buckle to work on anything, as the dems will not stop their bullshit, in which case the dems win, or he'll have to follow through and do nothing, in which case the dems win. The sooner he walks this back the better for him and if he doesn't he's going to hand them a tool for the campaign season. He needs to be more strategic with these people, as he played right into their hands this time....
And better still Bet the Chinese want him the hell out too so they'll be dealing with the moron from strength


I'd agree that China wants him gone, although that is arguably an argument in Trump's favor.

China is not our friend....
I agree 100% but if this no deal keeps up for long trump imho will be gone and like the song says ""thank God and greyhound he's gone""


well, yeah, and that's what the Chinese are counting on.

They'd make a deal otherwise, IMO, but they figure if the next guy comes in it will go back to the way it was, and they'll have to give nothing or less than is being asked for now. China doesn't want a recession any more than we do, but I think they're willing to wait it out and take a short term hit, hope he's gone in 2020 and win in the long run.

I do like the fact that Trump is willing to play hardball with these people, as I think the past administrations from Clinton through Obama were too soft on them, and really demanded nothing from them, as the big money wants that cheap labor to fuel earnings, and they generally get what they want from our politicians, who were busily assuring all of us that it was for our own good while business was busily moving their operations overseas.
 

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