A Show of Force is Developing in the Caribbean Sea

[LeftofLeft]

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turning America into a sub 90 IQ shit hole solves nothing

And how much sense does it make to be passive above 120 IQ that lets itself get raped by corrupt nations run by drug regimes?

 

[MisterBeale]

that have pirates and drug runners roaming it.

Allegedly. There isn't any proof other than the administration's say so.

It used to be, in America we believed in "innocent until proven guilty."

If they are guilty, why not just apprehend them?

 

[MisterBeale]

Trump erroneously thinks killing suspected smugglers is the key to winning the drug war

Until now, the president concedes, interdiction has been "totally ineffective." Blowing up drug boats won't change that reality.

reason.com

 

[buttercup]

This is about regime change, which has been a goal of Empire for a very long time. Also, getting control of their resources. The drug excuse is just that...an excuse. Look into who has actually been bringing drugs in to the US for years, and then ask if the ptsb actually care about drugs. Wake up, folks.

 

[Zincwarrior]

This is about regime change, which has been a goal of Empire for a very long time. Also, getting control of their resources. The drug excuse is just that...an excuse. Look into who has actually been bringing drugs in to the US for years, and then ask if the ptsb actually care about drugs. Wake up, folks.

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The last time one country tried to steal another country's oil was Iraq and Kuwait. Before that it was Imperial Japan.

 

[BackAgain]

This thread starts with a whole lot of conjecture.

The military might we are displaying in that region is designed to make sure that the governmental head of a nation, which is apparently managed by drug cartels, gets the message.

I personally doubt that America has any designs on Venezuela other than to cause a massive disruption in its drug distribution system and criminal behavior.

I’d be literally dismayed if President Trump had eyes on Venezuelan oil. And it that turns out to be even a significant component of the policies he is now making use of, he would immediately lose my support.

We all recognize that President Trump in imperfect (as are we all). But it is still fully possible that all he is seeking to accomplish is the obliteration of a drug network supported by a nation and its leadership.

 

[eagle1462010]

Allegedly. There isn't any proof other than the administration's say so.

It used to be, in America we believed in "innocent until proven guilty."

If they are guilty, why not just apprehend them?

They dont exactly give up. Until weapons are in their face.

As I said this has been going on since I was there. 80s

 

[eagle1462010]

This thread starts with a whole lot of conjecture.

The military might we are displaying in that region is designed to make sure that the governmental head of a nation, which is apparently managed by drug cartels, gets the message.

I personally doubt that America has any designs on Venezuela other than to cause a massive disruption in its drug distribution system and criminal behavior.

I’d be literally dismayed if President Trump had eyes on Venezuelan oil. And it that turns out to be even a significant component of the policies he is now making use of, he would immediately lose my support.

We all recognize that President Trump in imperfect (as are we all). But it is still fully possible that all he is seeking to accomplish is the obliteration of a drug network supported by a nation and its leadership.

Gunboat diplomacy

 

[BackAgain]

Gunboat diplomacy

That term kinda sorta rings a bell!!

 

[eagle1462010]

That term kinda sorta rings a bell!!

Yes it does. Think they got the message?

 

[MisterBeale]

They dont exactly give up. Until weapons are in their face.

OK, fine, if that is the case, I have no problem with force at that point.

This isn't what is happening though, so why are you trying to twist reality to fit your narrative?

 

[eagle1462010]

OK, fine, if that is the case, I have no problem with force at that point.

This isn't what is happening though, so why are you trying to twist reality to fit your narrative?

My narritive is ive served there and know what kind of people they are.

I simple dont care they are being taken out. Why do you care given who they are.

You a boyscout?

 

[SeaMajor7]

This thread starts with a whole lot of conjecture.

The military might we are displaying in that region is designed to make sure that the governmental head of a nation, which is apparently managed by drug cartels, gets the message.

I personally doubt that America has any designs on Venezuela other than to cause a massive disruption in its drug distribution system and criminal behavior.

I’d be literally dismayed if President Trump had eyes on Venezuelan oil. And it that turns out to be even a significant component of the policies he is now making use of, he would immediately lose my support.

We all recognize that President Trump in imperfect (as are we all). But it is still fully possible that all he is seeking to accomplish is the obliteration of a drug network supported by a nation and its leadership.

If didn't see anything about oil in the videos posted.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[MisterBeale]

Putin and Venezuela's Maduro sign strategic partnership agreement in Moscow​

By Reuters
May 7, 2025

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-maduro-sign-strategic-partnership-agreement-2025-05-07/

Sanctions, Solidarity and Sovereignty: The Untold Story of Iran-Venezuela Relations​

June 9, 2025

The Untold Story of Iran-Venezuela Relations

Formal relations between Iran and Venezuela were established in 1947, but it was not until the 1960s that their partnership gained strategic significance.

www.telesurenglish.net

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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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[Godboy]

This is WAY bigger than blowing drug running boats out of the water.
The REAL war on drugs is apparently coming to be, but are there ulterior motives involved?

There must be ulterior motives. You dont send a massively expensive carrier group to intercept little drug boats.

The motive could be for training (highly unlikely in my opinion), it could be there as a threat to keep anyone from getting trigger happy, or it could be there to do strikes on Venezuala. Its interesting that they also have amphibious assault ships, whos only purpose is to land foot soldiers on enemy soil.

 

[SeaMajor7]

There must be ulterior motives. You dont send a massively expensive carrier group to intercept little drug boats.

The motive could be for training (highly unlikely in my opinion), it could be there as a threat to keep anyone from getting trigger happy, or it could be there to do strikes on Venezuala. Its interesting that they also have amphibious assault ships, whos only purpose is to land foot soldiers on enemy soil.

I'm leaning towards the theory that this is also to show China that they shouldn't think of setting up operations in South America, but who knows?
I'm 100% down with smashing the drug operations, though.

 

[MisterBeale]

My narritive is ive served there and know what kind of people they are.

I simple dont care they are being taken out. Why do you care given who they are.

You a boyscout?

IF you are going to argue and discuss with fallacies, I don't have time for your nonsense.

Just because you were once, long ago, involved in drug interdiction missions, DOES NOT mean what the administration is telling us is necessarily the truth.

Likewise, painting all people with a broad-brush, as if a few represent the whole, again, weak minded illogical drivel.

You haven't given a reasonable response, just fallacious hyperbole.

Argument from authority - Wikipedia

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Fallacy of composition - Wikipedia

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[eagle1462010]

IF you are going to argue and discuss with fallacies, I don't have time for your nonsense.

Just because you were once, long ago, involved in drug interdiction missions, DOES NOT mean what the administration is telling us is necessarily the truth.

Likewise, painting all people with a broad-brush, as if a few represent the whole, again, weak minded illogical drivel.

You haven't given a reasonable response, just fallacious hyperbole.

Argument from authority - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fallacy of composition - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wah. These are drug dealers and pirates.

I dont care they get taken out. I know what kind of people they are.

You upset about them? I simply donr care.

My opinion and stance STAYS THE SAME.

 

[BackAgain]

Yes it does. Think they got the message?

I suspect that Maduro and his henchthugs probably have gotten the message. But the heads of the various cartels are notoriously slow learners.

As a consequence, I’m not certain that President Trump won’t also start bombing the drug processing locations within Venezuela. Perhaps even doing so far as to attempt to destroy the farming areas growing the coca plants.

And, to be clear, I’m not sure this will go over so well in America. The Democraps will, in knee-jerk reaction style, oppose it. Their handmaiden MSM apparatchik will “cover” the story along their usual lines, of course. And public opinion (as gauged by “pollsters” will also disapprove.

Naturally, the UN will denounce it, too, because — we’ll just because.

Therefore, predictably, the impact of President Trump’s efforts will be lessened and the “war” (which is inevitably what it would be called) would therefore drag on longer than necessary.