A Problem With Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia

[Moonglow]

Jefferson drew his inspiration form Bolingbrokism. Locke and the others he just named dropped in his propaganda writings. What he actually believed and practiced has almost nothing to do with what he wrote.

The Old Testament goes back some three millennia.

The Founders were deeply religious.

The code of the Anunnaki goes back further and is the basis of Judaism

What Code of the Anunnaki?

The code that the Hebrews used. Seven archangels , 12 tribes etc. the son of Cain Enoch who wrote a book about the Watchers that fell from heaven is also part of the ancient Sumerian religion..

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. “This is the fundamental American belief. Religious liberty is one of those five great freedoms clustered in the First Amendment -- Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly and Protest -- these five freedoms that hang together, that are the basic pre-governmental rights, are sort of Civics 101 we all agree on well before we get to anything as relatively inconsequential as tax policy.

And contrary to the belief of some activists, religious liberty is not an exception. You don’t need the government’s permission to have religious liberty.”

Can the Democrat Party claim to stand for “ those five great freedoms clustered in the First Amendment”?




Obama put an anti-free speech judge on the Supreme Court, and here is the Democrat house organ demanding an end to free speech:

“Why America needs a hate speech law

…as a government official traveling around the world championing the virtues of free speech, I came to see how our First Amendment standard is an outlier. Even the most sophisticated Arab diplomats that I dealt with did not understand why the First Amendment allows someone to burn a Koran. Why, they asked me, would you ever want to protect that?

Yes, the First Amendment protects the “thought that we hate,” but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another. “
www.washingtonpost.com



'Hate speech' and 'thought crimes'....the Democrat pretense against freedom.
The Democrat Party.....the antithesis of American values.

 

[night_son]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

The answer is a resounding 'NO'. Modern democrats cannot possibly still consider themselves Americans, at least not in the sense our Founding Fathers philosophized and later implemented and then consequently shed blood to enact and defend and enshrine. I'd hazard a guess this truth is self-evident in the minds of most still sane Americans. Every American who still loves freedom, still believes their rights hail from high above, KNOWS what must be done in order to return America to what She once was and to restore our rights and freedoms and liberty as our Founders intended us to possess, practice and enjoy. But as I have said many times . . . the Spirit of '76 seems to exist these days in name only . . . not in practice.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

The answer is a resounding 'NO'. Modern democrats cannot possibly still consider themselves Americans, at least not in the sense our Founding Fathers philosophized and later implemented and then consequently shed blood to enact and defend and enshrine. I'd hazard a guess this truth is self-evident in the minds of most still sane Americans. Every American who still loves freedom, still believes their rights hail from high above, KNOWS what must be done in order to return America to what She once was and to restore our rights and freedoms and liberty as our Founders intended us to possess, practice and enjoy. But as I have said many times . . . the Spirit of '76 seems to exist these days in name only . . . not in practice.

As the saying goes.....It was great while it lasted.

 

[DudleySmith]

Jefferson drew his inspiration form Bolingbrokism. Locke and the others he just named dropped in his propaganda writings. What he actually believed and practiced has almost nothing to do with what he wrote.

The Old Testament goes back some three millennia.

The Founders were deeply religious.

The code of the Anunnaki goes back further and is the basis of Judaism

Which 'Judaism'? Pre or post-exile Babylonian exile? Must mean the pre-exile Mosaic Hebrewism.

And there is Rabbinical Messianic Judaism.

Rabbinical Judaism is a creation of the Pharisee sect; it didn't dominate until the 2nd century A.D., and it used a fake 'oral Torah' that emphaiszied ridiculous legalisms and racial purity laws. Christianity is an older Jewish sect, and is much closer to the original Hebrewism of Moses and the real Torah, and ultimately became far more popular with Jews, especially those excluded by the rabbinical cult and before that the 2nd Temple scam set up by Cyrus and the Jews he favored.

 

[DudleySmith]

What he actually believed and practiced has almost nothing to do with what he wrote.

That's kind of immaterial- he wrote and the wrting was signed making it official- had he not written what he did write what would we be doing differently today? What would we believe to be true-

See Forrest MacDonald's The Jefferson Presidency for details, and also

We aren't talking about his presidency- if there is something specific you want to interject, do so.

You brought up Locke. Few were influenced by Locke, they just cited him to lend a veneer of respecatability to their revolution. The Great Awakening had a big effect on the working classes and the self made types, for a while, but not much on the 'elites' and the wealthy types who actually ran thins; those were motivated entirely by their own self-interests, which of course wouldn't make for good propaganda when trying to get a lot of proles to fight and die for your personal enrichment. Most of the 'elites' were already large land and slave owners and most of the others made their fortunes during the 1740-1760s as pirate ship financiers and smugglers. many by trading with the enemy while British soldiers died protecting them from France, Spain, or whoever. I didn't say they weren't grand speeches and sounded really good, they just weren't what influenced and inspired the leadership, certainly not Jefferson.

People were 'religious' to the extent churches controlled the politics and offices in many colonies, but as we all know merely being a member of one doesn't mean they were motivated by religion to revolt; Benjamin Franklin for instance paid pew rents in 8 different churches at one time, a necessity if one wanted to be in politics. Pew rents kept the working class riff raff out and from annoying their betters.

But, the Brits essentially cut their own throats over time, with their arrogant abuses by their military. When the revolution started, Tories outnumbered 'rebels' by two to one, some 20% of the population versus maybe 10% in support, with some 70% not caring either way, since they had no dog in the fight. Abuses by the British military had altered that by some 60% in favor of the rebels in just three years of occupation.

 

[DudleySmith]

Jefferson wrote a big screed about 'the evils of slavery', but it was just for cosmetic propaganda purposes at the time he wrote it. He in fact highly recomended the slave trade to his friends because of its profitability, and he built Monticello off of his huge profits from slavery. He owned as many as 600 of them.

 

[DudleySmith]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

Only white, male landowners could vote...and then there was slavery...people as chattel.

As was the case over much of the world, and for most of history, so all this means is they were men of their time and place. When they manumitted some slaves and sent them to colonize Liberia, those freed blacks set themselves up a slave owning plantation owners as well.

 

[surada]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

The answer is a resounding 'NO'. Modern democrats cannot possibly still consider themselves Americans, at least not in the sense our Founding Fathers philosophized and later implemented and then consequently shed blood to enact and defend and enshrine. I'd hazard a guess this truth is self-evident in the minds of most still sane Americans. Every American who still loves freedom, still believes their rights hail from high above, KNOWS what must be done in order to return America to what She once was and to restore our rights and freedoms and liberty as our Founders intended us to possess, practice and enjoy. But as I have said many times . . . the Spirit of '76 seems to exist these days in name only . . . not in practice.

What freedoms have you lost?

 

[surada]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

Only white, male landowners could vote...and then there was slavery...people as chattel.

As was the case over much of the world, and for most of history, so all this means is they were men of their time and place. When they manumitted some slaves and sent them to colonize Liberia, those freed blacks set themselves up a slave owning plantation owners as well.

What does the US have to do with Liberia, Africa? I don't think the founding fathers wrote their constitution.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

The answer is a resounding 'NO'. Modern democrats cannot possibly still consider themselves Americans, at least not in the sense our Founding Fathers philosophized and later implemented and then consequently shed blood to enact and defend and enshrine. I'd hazard a guess this truth is self-evident in the minds of most still sane Americans. Every American who still loves freedom, still believes their rights hail from high above, KNOWS what must be done in order to return America to what She once was and to restore our rights and freedoms and liberty as our Founders intended us to possess, practice and enjoy. But as I have said many times . . . the Spirit of '76 seems to exist these days in name only . . . not in practice.

What freedoms have you lost?

Let's add a new term to your vocabulary....and possibly double same.

This is called a book.

Reading it will answer your query and add tons to your knowledge.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

Only white, male landowners could vote...and then there was slavery...people as chattel.

As was the case over much of the world, and for most of history, so all this means is they were men of their time and place. When they manumitted some slaves and sent them to colonize Liberia, those freed blacks set themselves up a slave owning plantation owners as well.

What does the US have to do with Liberia, Africa? I don't think the founding fathers wrote their constitution.

I must admit that each and every day I am astounded at how little you government school grads know.


In 1821 the American Colonization Society founded the colony of Liberia south of Sierra Leone as a homeland for former slaves outside British jurisdiction.


So you are the government school valedictorian, huh?

 

[surada]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

The answer is a resounding 'NO'. Modern democrats cannot possibly still consider themselves Americans, at least not in the sense our Founding Fathers philosophized and later implemented and then consequently shed blood to enact and defend and enshrine. I'd hazard a guess this truth is self-evident in the minds of most still sane Americans. Every American who still loves freedom, still believes their rights hail from high above, KNOWS what must be done in order to return America to what She once was and to restore our rights and freedoms and liberty as our Founders intended us to possess, practice and enjoy. But as I have said many times . . . the Spirit of '76 seems to exist these days in name only . . . not in practice.

What freedoms have you lost?

Let's add a new term to your vocabulary....and possibly double same.

This is called a book.

Reading it will answer your query and add tons to your knowledge.


View attachment 455176

Who has killed your free speech or taken away your freedoms?

 

[surada]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

Only white, male landowners could vote...and then there was slavery...people as chattel.

As was the case over much of the world, and for most of history, so all this means is they were men of their time and place. When they manumitted some slaves and sent them to colonize Liberia, those freed blacks set themselves up a slave owning plantation owners as well.

What does the US have to do with Liberia, Africa? I don't think the founding fathers wrote their constitution.

I must admit that each and every day I am astounded at how little you government school grads know.


In 1821 the American Colonization Society founded the colony of Liberia south of Sierra Leone as a homeland for former slaves outside British jurisdiction.


So you are the government school valedictorian, huh?

Nope.. I went to an outstanding private school in Europe. My teachers were all from Dartmouth, Amherst and Harvard. Did the founding fathers write the Liberian Constitution?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


View attachment 455000

The answer is a resounding 'NO'. Modern democrats cannot possibly still consider themselves Americans, at least not in the sense our Founding Fathers philosophized and later implemented and then consequently shed blood to enact and defend and enshrine. I'd hazard a guess this truth is self-evident in the minds of most still sane Americans. Every American who still loves freedom, still believes their rights hail from high above, KNOWS what must be done in order to return America to what She once was and to restore our rights and freedoms and liberty as our Founders intended us to possess, practice and enjoy. But as I have said many times . . . the Spirit of '76 seems to exist these days in name only . . . not in practice.

What freedoms have you lost?

Let's add a new term to your vocabulary....and possibly double same.

This is called a book.

Reading it will answer your query and add tons to your knowledge.


View attachment 455176

Who has killed your free speech or taken away your freedoms?

Do you know that Democrat Obama put an anti-free speech judge on the Supreme Court?



"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"

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Via The Volokh Conspiracy comes this blast from Elena Kagan’s past. The Chicago Tribune’s James Oliphant reports: “According to records at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Littl…

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5. “Earlier this week, Obama-appointed Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan wrote in her minority dissent to the Janus ruling that the Court had “weaponized the First Amendment.”

The majority opinion dwelt on issues of compelled speech, noting that “because such compulsion so plainly violates the Constitution, most of our free speech cases have involved restrictions on what can be said, rather than laws compelling speech. But measures compelling speech are at least as threatening.”

Kagan, however, has other ideas and claimed in her dissent that

“The First Amendment was meant for better things,” she concluded.

Kagan’s fantastical notion of “black-robed rulers overriding citizens’ choices” by “weaponizing the First Amendment” is puzzling. Citizens in non-right-to-work states are completely free to join a union if they so wish, and in doing so, commit to paying union dues. The only change here is that unions can no longer extort dues from non-members in any state.

Citizens’ choices have not been overridden; indeed, citizen choice is expanded under this ruling. They can join a union or not join a union, those who do not join cannot be compelled to pay union dues, but they are also not barred from doing so if they wish.

Her point about “weaponizing the First Amendment” is equally confounding. The Founders intendedthe First Amendment to be a weapon . . . against government tyranny and oppression. They were insistent that freedom of speech was required to check government and to maintain a free and independent citizenry.” Who's afraid of the 1st Amendment?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The inability to distinguish between civics and politics. See if it resonates here


1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson



2. Where did Jefferson get that idea?

1:26, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”

There is no way to see the connection with the biblical statement and not recognize that America was founded based on biblical precepts. That means that religion and religious freedom are inseparable from the heritage of America’s people. As is the belief that all of us are equal before the law.




3. The two terms “equal” and “freedom” come from the above and are the “civics” that all Americans are supposed to agree on.

You are not an American if you do not subscribe to those civics ideas.

And that is the problem with Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia.

And with the Democrat Party as it is so constituted: its agenda is based on treating people differently based on race, class and gender.



4. No matter how false the ‘education,’ in government school, no matter how they have corrupted your ideas, Democrat voters….I bet you are unable to make an argument against “equal” and “freedom.” Yet a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote against both.

And parroting the dogma that they have programmed into you without being able to explain and defend it, is redolent of Nazi Germany And Bolshevik Russia, not a hallmark of America or Americans.

If one of the two parties does not, any longer, agree that America is America due to basic, unalienable rights, such as religious liberty, equality, and free speech…
…..can that party claim to be American?


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Only white, male landowners could vote...and then there was slavery...people as chattel.

As was the case over much of the world, and for most of history, so all this means is they were men of their time and place. When they manumitted some slaves and sent them to colonize Liberia, those freed blacks set themselves up a slave owning plantation owners as well.

What does the US have to do with Liberia, Africa? I don't think the founding fathers wrote their constitution.

I must admit that each and every day I am astounded at how little you government school grads know.


In 1821 the American Colonization Society founded the colony of Liberia south of Sierra Leone as a homeland for former slaves outside British jurisdiction.


So you are the government school valedictorian, huh?

Nope.. I went to an outstanding private school in Europe. My teachers were all from Dartmouth, Amherst and Harvard. Did the founding fathers write the Liberian Constitution?

You are as dumb as asphalt.

You must get tired of hearing that from everyone.

 

[Gdjjr]

You brought up Locke. Few were influenced by Locke, they just cited him to lend a veneer of respecatability to their revolution

Again- this is immaterial- the DoI was signed off on- words mean things or they don't.

The Great Awakening had a big effect on the working classes and the self made types, for a while, but not much on the 'elites' and the wealthy types who actually ran thins; those were motivated entirely by their own self-interests,

I believe that was Lockes premise- so, who won and who lost? Those who pursued their own interests or those who gave up because-

It seems, to me, you have a problem with opposing views- personally, I welcome them- and I do so because I subscribe to, all men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights- and the fact that, this is self evident- whether the author(s) lived that way or not is immaterial to the fact of self evident- church goers do the same damn thing and use the bible as a crutch for their beliefs/behavior- I do neither- I LIVE (to the best of my ability) the above in bold, which, for me, achieves self respect which allows me to respect- one can't be had without the other-

You can post all the diatribe you desire- it will change nothing I've said, or will say, or believe-

 

[justinacolmena]

1.Civics is the stuff we’re all supposed to agree on and in terms of our nation that should begin here: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’ Thomas Jefferson

Law-fuckers cuffed me, drugged me, tortured me almost to death in mental health court, jail / mental hospital, and boy were they ever disappointed that they failed in their plans to murder me. May God avenge me upon them, and may our gracious Creator punish those crooked cops and whores for the rest of their miserable lives here on earth until they are delivered to that place of eternal torment which they have so richly merited for themselves by their temporal works.