A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.
How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

Obama was president during the worst recession since the Great Depression and pulled us out, and I think that situation makes it extremely difficult to address debt. Wouldn't you think? That is actually a time when you need more government spending as I understand it economics (which I admit often seems like witchcraft) When the economy is doing good - that is when to cut spending. But it isn't happening. Instead, we cut, hugely, revenue with the tax bill...I am concerned where that will leave us. And I'm concerned that there doesn't seem to be any concern. I usually trust the Republicans to balance the Dems desire to spend more with their desire to cut spending. Ain't happening...

Obama promised to cut debt in half. He doubled it and we still had a stagnant economy.
 
You had to know that a Princeton Turd was going to come up with some Bullshit he already believed before he went on his Bullshit eight year tour.

He should have just read what Thomas Jefferson had to say: That the the huge congested rotting cities now being invaded by a Mexican and Muslim hoard were the greatest threat to the great experiment Jefferson and his fellow founding fathers set in motion....which has been the greatest in the human history.

Heartland America is watching Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco turn into Socialist Cesspools and spew their cancer around to the rest of the country.....turning it into a budding Venezuela.

And a fucking Princeton Professor can't understand why Jeffersonians all across America are pissed. Who is surprised?
You cannot continue to think backwards forever.
 
My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.
How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

Obama was president during the worst recession since the Great Depression and pulled us out, and I think that situation makes it extremely difficult to address debt. Wouldn't you think? That is actually a time when you need more government spending as I understand it economics (which I admit often seems like witchcraft) When the economy is doing good - that is when to cut spending. But it isn't happening. Instead, we cut, hugely, revenue with the tax bill...I am concerned where that will leave us. And I'm concerned that there doesn't seem to be any concern. I usually trust the Republicans to balance the Dems desire to spend more with their desire to cut spending. Ain't happening...

Strange isn't it. FDR fought the great depression with the same economic nonsense that Obama fought the great recession, and got the same results. Many years of misery. WWII ended the great depression, and the election of Trump ended the great recession.

Leftists never seem to understand that it is not good to just redistribute the pie, they have to grow the pie. Spending that does not grow the pie is wasted spending. Obama and company spent trillions of dollars attempting to stimulate the economy through consumer spending. The economies that got stimulated were in China, South Korea, and Indonesia. because they are the ones making those consumer products that Americans were buying.

Wealth is created in only one way, and that is through adding value to whatever already exists. If the value adding is being done overseas, that is where the wealth is generated and mostly kept. If a society is not generating wealth, it is doing nothing more than dividing existing wealth among an ever growing population. Trump understands that, FDR didn't, and Obama didn't.
 
You had to know that a Princeton Turd was going to come up with some Bullshit he already believed before he went on his Bullshit eight year tour.

He should have just read what Thomas Jefferson had to say: That the the huge congested rotting cities now being invaded by a Mexican and Muslim hoard were the greatest threat to the great experiment Jefferson and his fellow founding fathers set in motion....which has been the greatest in the human history.

Heartland America is watching Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco turn into Socialist Cesspools and spew their cancer around to the rest of the country.....turning it into a budding Venezuela.

And a fucking Princeton Professor can't understand why Jeffersonians all across America are pissed. Who is surprised?
You cannot continue to think backwards forever.

Nobody has to accept your version of "progress". Nobody has to agree that Adam can marry Steve if he wants too. Nobody has to agree that a woman can kill her "baby" anytime before it comes through the door.
 
That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.
How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

Obama was president during the worst recession since the Great Depression and pulled us out, and I think that situation makes it extremely difficult to address debt. Wouldn't you think? That is actually a time when you need more government spending as I understand it economics (which I admit often seems like witchcraft) When the economy is doing good - that is when to cut spending. But it isn't happening. Instead, we cut, hugely, revenue with the tax bill...I am concerned where that will leave us. And I'm concerned that there doesn't seem to be any concern. I usually trust the Republicans to balance the Dems desire to spend more with their desire to cut spending. Ain't happening...

Obama promised to cut debt in half. He doubled it and we still had a stagnant economy.

Regardless of whether you think Obama was good or bad - it's not really the issue. The Republicans always used to act as a counterweight to the Dems in terms of spending and fiscal responsibility. What happened?
 
You had to know that a Princeton Turd was going to come up with some Bullshit he already believed before he went on his Bullshit eight year tour.

He should have just read what Thomas Jefferson had to say: That the the huge congested rotting cities now being invaded by a Mexican and Muslim hoard were the greatest threat to the great experiment Jefferson and his fellow founding fathers set in motion....which has been the greatest in the human history.

Heartland America is watching Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco turn into Socialist Cesspools and spew their cancer around to the rest of the country.....turning it into a budding Venezuela.

And a fucking Princeton Professor can't understand why Jeffersonians all across America are pissed. Who is surprised?
You cannot continue to think backwards forever.
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And you budding Bolsheviks cannot continue to ignore the lessons of history forever.

The good people of Venezuela thought they were just voting for a little more fairness in wealth distribution---here about 2 decades ago. They just wanted a little more Free Shit. They did not know they were budding Bolsheviks any more than you do now, because you are a Dumb-Ass ignorant of what has happened every time Democrats=Socialist get control.

Now they are eating their pets in Venezuela.

Until Human Nature changes, the outcome of these constant Socialist Utopian Experiments will not change.



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When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.
How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

Obama was president during the worst recession since the Great Depression and pulled us out, and I think that situation makes it extremely difficult to address debt. Wouldn't you think? That is actually a time when you need more government spending as I understand it economics (which I admit often seems like witchcraft) When the economy is doing good - that is when to cut spending. But it isn't happening. Instead, we cut, hugely, revenue with the tax bill...I am concerned where that will leave us. And I'm concerned that there doesn't seem to be any concern. I usually trust the Republicans to balance the Dems desire to spend more with their desire to cut spending. Ain't happening...

Obama promised to cut debt in half. He doubled it and we still had a stagnant economy.

Regardless of whether you think Obama was good or bad - it's not really the issue. The Republicans always used to act as a counterweight to the Dems in terms of spending and fiscal responsibility. What happened?

They took the mask off and revealed to the world that America is NOT a two party Nation. We have an oligarchy that we have no control over what so ever. They do whatever they want and simply expect us to take it in the rear and thank them for it.
 
What specifically did Trump do to make you angry?



Pretty much everything about him. You do know he is a liberal at heart don't you?

You can't name a one specific thing, yet he makes you angry?


Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses.
Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
I'm just about as pissed off by this as anyone. At almost retirement age and having paid for health insurance for my family for years, it was stunning how much my cost have gone up since the establishment of the ACA (Obamacare.) Now that my kids have moved out, yet are still single, except one, I still have to pay an absolute ass load of money. My oldest will fall off this coming September, he will turn 28,yet my cost will not go down any... still have to pay for the entire family right now. Hopefully the repel of the mandates will have a small, yet positive, effect on my monthly cost.
Oh, and the whole thing of "if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor" thing was a load of crap. I have not seen the same doctor twice in a row since 2013. The clinic I went to was great, up until that point, but skyrocketing cost, and availability of in network clinics keep shrinking, and my insurance keeps reassigning me to a new primary care provider.
The unintended consequences of "doing something" instead of "doing something the right way" has really put a strain on my family and me. Every time I hear "We gotta pass the bill to see whats in it" burns my ass worse than the standard 3 foot flame. Don't get me wrong, Republicans had 7 friggin years to come up with a workable alternative, and didn't do it, so they aren't off the hook either. The whole system is corrupt and needs to be burnt to the ground, and then the ashes fed into a plasma burner to cleanse it even further. To lay the blame at Trump's feet is fair, I guess, but his first 4 years aren't up yet, so maybe, hopefully, he can get folks together and come up with something fair to us all.

Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
I should stay away from this one, but I won't. Mexico will never "like" paying for the wall, however, I don't think any reasonable person out there honestly thinks there is a way to do it. Not to say he won't try, The Bottom line here is; something has to be done about illegal immigration. My personal opinion is we need more man power, I haven't done the math, however I'm betting manpower vs an actual wall would be less expensive in the long run.
Hyperbole, thy name is "The Wall."

Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Really? You must be making some bank!
Otherwise, I'm gonna have to throw the Bullshit flag on this one and penalize you 15 yards for typing utter crap

Giving us dirtier air and water.
Not so much. His EO's have taken out of play the more restrictive, unnecessary regulations put in place by an over reaching administration. Folks that are doing dirty to mother nature still have to clean up after themselves, close up pit mines, plant native trees and grasses when done. Frackers are still held responsible if they do something wrong and get their chemicals into ground water, they still have to clean it up and make it right.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses,
Have you read Dodd-Frank? the very basic break down goes like this:
Banks "To Big To Fail" (FU BUSH!!) have to keep on hand larger reserves (capital) to cover accounts on hand and investments must be in "easily liquidated" assets in case of a run on banks. So, banks must have so much cash, and government securities......
Then, when the banks are handed 700 some odd billions of taxpayer dollars, as a "stimulus" (hahahahahahahaha) what do the banks do with it? Give ousted CEO's multi-million dollar severances, and store the rest to build up their cash reserves.
Only after those severance packages came out did the gubmint do anything..... once again, too little too late.... those unintended consequences once again. Damn, if only someone would have seen through what would happen to the money back in 2008.... Oh wait.
"The White House will call this a victory," said then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). "But as credit tightens, regulations multiply, and job creation slows even further as a result of this bill, they'll have a hard time convincing the American people that this is a victory for them." -Friggin Mitch McConnell (probably the only thing he got right in 10 years)
When you stifle cash, and make it hard to get a loan, the economy isn't going to grow much. You not only make it hard for Joe Average to get a loan, you make it hard for small business' to get loans which, more often than not, creates a smaller jobs market, which in turn leads to higher un-employment, which leads to higher taxes for those actually earning a living, etc etc etc.... I will say one good thing about Dodd Frank is the whistle blower protections, that being said, I personally think that could have been done separately, and in a much better manner to insure those that do so, aren't black listed, or have any sort of retaliation come back on them... whatsoever.

To lay all your issues at the feet of a duly elected President is hogwash. What Trump managed to do, and lets face it, he was the lamb being led to slaughter by the Republicans in the face of the Clinton machine.... Any who, he beat both sides at their own game, and yet all he gets from the MSM is hate, rancor, and charges of racism. When in fact, he is merit based and expects results.
But whatever, hold onto your hate for him.....
The federal government fucks everything up it touches....

Doubly so when even preliminary research into possible consequences isn't factored in.
 
Lack of education and automation is a big factor, no more can a white person or any person with low educational attainment just walk off the street and get a job, they must now compete with others which wasn't a given back when


"with some 800 million people around the world — including a third of the workforce in the U.S. — predicted to be out of jobs by 2030 because of automation, according to an eight-month study from the McKinsey Global Institute."


Stephen Hawking’s final Reddit post is going viral over its ominous warning about robots

so all the whining about libs, minorities gays and women is just that, whining and scapegoating :CryingCow:

libs aren't in power , the pubes are in control of all branches of government
 
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You had to know that a Princeton Turd was going to come up with some Bullshit he already believed before he went on his Bullshit eight year tour.

He should have just read what Thomas Jefferson had to say: That the the huge congested rotting cities now being invaded by a Mexican and Muslim hoard were the greatest threat to the great experiment Jefferson and his fellow founding fathers set in motion....which has been the greatest in the human history.

Heartland America is watching Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco turn into Socialist Cesspools and spew their cancer around to the rest of the country.....turning it into a budding Venezuela.

And a fucking Princeton Professor can't understand why Jeffersonians all across America are pissed. Who is surprised?
QFT
 
When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.
How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

Obama was president during the worst recession since the Great Depression and pulled us out, and I think that situation makes it extremely difficult to address debt. Wouldn't you think? That is actually a time when you need more government spending as I understand it economics (which I admit often seems like witchcraft) When the economy is doing good - that is when to cut spending. But it isn't happening. Instead, we cut, hugely, revenue with the tax bill...I am concerned where that will leave us. And I'm concerned that there doesn't seem to be any concern. I usually trust the Republicans to balance the Dems desire to spend more with their desire to cut spending. Ain't happening...

Obama promised to cut debt in half. He doubled it and we still had a stagnant economy.

Regardless of whether you think Obama was good or bad - it's not really the issue. The Republicans always used to act as a counterweight to the Dems in terms of spending and fiscal responsibility. What happened?
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Well, as I have taught you, Democrats are nothing but Bolsheviks, some too poorly educated to know they are Bolsheviks...but Bolsheviks nonetheless. Surely you know by now that Obama is the main Bolshevik of all.

They are all unfit for service...and most should be in jail.

But, what you are asking about is Republicans. Good Question.

Republicans are Pussies.

In my opinion, the full flight to Full Pussydom began after Paul Ryan proposed a budget that would help keep some of our Social Systems from going broke soon.

Within two days, the Democrat/Bolsheviks were running an ad showing a Paul Ryan Look-a-like throwing a Granny in a Wheel Chair off a cliff.

It was effective. You Democrat/Bolsheviks should be proud.

But, they are eating their pets in Venezuela...which is where the last bunch of Democrat/Bolsheviks got to run things their way.

So, between Bolsheviks and Pussies....get ready to eat Rover. May be another decade or so.

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You had to know that a Princeton Turd was going to come up with some Bullshit he already believed before he went on his Bullshit eight year tour.

He should have just read what Thomas Jefferson had to say: That the the huge congested rotting cities now being invaded by a Mexican and Muslim hoard were the greatest threat to the great experiment Jefferson and his fellow founding fathers set in motion....which has been the greatest in the human history.

Heartland America is watching Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco turn into Socialist Cesspools and spew their cancer around to the rest of the country.....turning it into a budding Venezuela.

And a fucking Princeton Professor can't understand why Jeffersonians all across America are pissed. Who is surprised?
so when are going to take your job back?

 
Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats

A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

Conservatives afraid of change? Are cats afraid of vacuum cleaners?

The election of Trump should inform left wing loons that conservatives are not afraid of change. However, we are opposed to the change that the left wing wishes to impose on us. Trump was elected to turn the ship of state away from the rocks and back into deep waters. That is change, and that is good
Eating your own again?


In what way dupe?
Small towns are pissed because they are starting to have big town problems! I get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent considerable time in two small towns growing up. In both places it did not take long before I knew pretty much every bodoies name that I would run into. I did not need an ID at the bank the teller knew me personally and my siblings names and my parents names. I very rarely ever locked the door in either town there was no need. When I lived in these towns it had been like fifty years since there had been a murder in either one. Now here comes this opiate epidemic and all that has changed. Murders, theft and break ins now happen in both places. Both places have opiate overdoses they are nothing like when I lived there. I am pissed and I do not live in either place any more.

Big problems in my area as well...but you have to look at what is behind them. Many of the areas with bad problems like that are also economically depressed, jobs have left and so has a lot of the population. You can’t fix the opiate problem without addressing the causes. People want a future and if there is no future, no sense of value it is easier to turn to to drugs,

And scapegoating minorities and people on the other side of the political spectrum does nothing to address the root of the problem , laissez fair capitalism run amok following the cheapest labor around the world and states fighting and outbidding each other for jobs , the poor schmo workers are taught to fight each other for the scraps

Here's a great idea. Why not import hundreds of thousands more poor schmo workers to fight over those scraps? Why not take more of the tax money that these poor schmo workers pay and throw it into the inner city shitholes to keep those imported schmos fed, clothed, and housed? After all, those rural folks seem to be able to fend for themselves, and Detroit needs basketball courts and bicycle paths.


Oh he is taking it to deep water for sure. Grab a life boat you're gonna need it!
 
Lack of education and automation is a big factor, no more can a white person or any person with low educational attainment just walk off the street and get a job, they must now compete with others which wasn't a given back when


"with some 800 million people around the world — including a third of the workforce in the U.S. — predicted to be out of jobs by 2030 because of automation, according to an eight-month study from the McKinsey Global Institute."


Stephen Hawking’s final Reddit post is going viral over its ominous warning about robots

so all the whining about libs, minorities gays and women is just that, whining and scapegoating :CryingCow:

libs aren't in power , the pubes are in control of all branches of government

Scapegoating? Too funny.
 
What specifically did Trump do to make you angry?


Pretty much everything about him. You do know he is a liberal at heart don't you?

You can't name a one specific thing, yet he makes you angry?


Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses.
Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
I'm just about as pissed off by this as anyone. At almost retirement age and having paid for health insurance for my family for years, it was stunning how much my cost have gone up since the establishment of the ACA (Obamacare.) Now that my kids have moved out, yet are still single, except one, I still have to pay an absolute ass load of money. My oldest will fall off this coming September, he will turn 28,yet my cost will not go down any... still have to pay for the entire family right now. Hopefully the repel of the mandates will have a small, yet positive, effect on my monthly cost.
Oh, and the whole thing of "if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor" thing was a load of crap. I have not seen the same doctor twice in a row since 2013. The clinic I went to was great, up until that point, but skyrocketing cost, and availability of in network clinics keep shrinking, and my insurance keeps reassigning me to a new primary care provider.
The unintended consequences of "doing something" instead of "doing something the right way" has really put a strain on my family and me. Every time I hear "We gotta pass the bill to see whats in it" burns my ass worse than the standard 3 foot flame. Don't get me wrong, Republicans had 7 friggin years to come up with a workable alternative, and didn't do it, so they aren't off the hook either. The whole system is corrupt and needs to be burnt to the ground, and then the ashes fed into a plasma burner to cleanse it even further. To lay the blame at Trump's feet is fair, I guess, but his first 4 years aren't up yet, so maybe, hopefully, he can get folks together and come up with something fair to us all.

Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
I should stay away from this one, but I won't. Mexico will never "like" paying for the wall, however, I don't think any reasonable person out there honestly thinks there is a way to do it. Not to say he won't try, The Bottom line here is; something has to be done about illegal immigration. My personal opinion is we need more man power, I haven't done the math, however I'm betting manpower vs an actual wall would be less expensive in the long run.
Hyperbole, thy name is "The Wall."

Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Really? You must be making some bank!
Otherwise, I'm gonna have to throw the Bullshit flag on this one and penalize you 15 yards for typing utter crap

Giving us dirtier air and water.
Not so much. His EO's have taken out of play the more restrictive, unnecessary regulations put in place by an over reaching administration. Folks that are doing dirty to mother nature still have to clean up after themselves, close up pit mines, plant native trees and grasses when done. Frackers are still held responsible if they do something wrong and get their chemicals into ground water, they still have to clean it up and make it right.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses,
Have you read Dodd-Frank? the very basic break down goes like this:
Banks "To Big To Fail" (FU BUSH!!) have to keep on hand larger reserves (capital) to cover accounts on hand and investments must be in "easily liquidated" assets in case of a run on banks. So, banks must have so much cash, and government securities......
Then, when the banks are handed 700 some odd billions of taxpayer dollars, as a "stimulus" (hahahahahahahaha) what do the banks do with it? Give ousted CEO's multi-million dollar severances, and store the rest to build up their cash reserves.
Only after those severance packages came out did the gubmint do anything..... once again, too little too late.... those unintended consequences once again. Damn, if only someone would have seen through what would happen to the money back in 2008.... Oh wait.
"The White House will call this a victory," said then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). "But as credit tightens, regulations multiply, and job creation slows even further as a result of this bill, they'll have a hard time convincing the American people that this is a victory for them." -Friggin Mitch McConnell (probably the only thing he got right in 10 years)
When you stifle cash, and make it hard to get a loan, the economy isn't going to grow much. You not only make it hard for Joe Average to get a loan, you make it hard for small business' to get loans which, more often than not, creates a smaller jobs market, which in turn leads to higher un-employment, which leads to higher taxes for those actually earning a living, etc etc etc.... I will say one good thing about Dodd Frank is the whistle blower protections, that being said, I personally think that could have been done separately, and in a much better manner to insure those that do so, aren't black listed, or have any sort of retaliation come back on them... whatsoever.

To lay all your issues at the feet of a duly elected President is hogwash. What Trump managed to do, and lets face it, he was the lamb being led to slaughter by the Republicans in the face of the Clinton machine.... Any who, he beat both sides at their own game, and yet all he gets from the MSM is hate, rancor, and charges of racism. When in fact, he is merit based and expects results.
But whatever, hold onto your hate for him.....
The federal government fucks everything up it touches....


Ergo Rump fucks up everything it touches!
 
I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers :(

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

Is a pharmacy family close enough? :)
 
What findings, all I saw was
No you didn't, you saw nothing, because you read nothing. And I mentioned the finding in my post, literally in the post to which you replied. I think we can safely chalk you up to, "too much of a fucking intellectual sissy to deal with or even acknowledge ideas that don't affirm his fetishes, politics and superstitions"...which makes one wonder why such a thin-skinned sissy as you even opened the thread in the first place...
 

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