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The attacker was not a White Supremacist.
His Travel Itinerary to The World's most Famous Terrorist Tourism Spots is a Huge Tipoff.
Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea, and now I am hearing Afghanistan too, are not places a White Supremacist would ever have a reason to go. Someone needing Training for a Jihadist Mission makes those tour stops. But let's just talk about just a singular issue that proves he is not a White Supremacist.
White Supremacists, HATE President Trump for 3 reasons.
1.) Donald Trump allowed his daughter to marry a Jew and has allowed Jared Kushner a Jew, in to The White House to be part of his administration.
2.) Donald Trump supports Israel’s Right to be a Sovereign Nation.
3.) Donald Trump moved The US Embassy to Jerusalem and recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
If one studies White Supremacists they will quickly realize that they share the same philosophies and hatred towards Jews, with Jihadists.
This Hatred of Jews for Neo Nazi White Supremacists is the same hatred and bigotry that made Nazi Germany and Arab Muslims Natural Allies in WW II.
Their hatred of Jews in both of these groups is so virulent that both groups have worked together on The Armenian Genocide and The Holocaust exterminating nearly 10 Million Jews combined! Turkey also a place where the attacker visited has an intense hatred of Jews and also participated officially in The Armenian Genocide of 2 Million Jews.
I can post interviews of White Supremacists citing Donald Trump's relationships with Jews as reasons they hate him. But it's widely known that is the truth.
The New Zealand Attacker was himself a Jihadist, and this was a carefully orchestrated PR campaign designed to affix blame to The West, and to Christianity. It was a false flag attack, & it is Islam's Version of playing The RACE CARD.
I believe they did it to change the narrative regarding Islam and Politicians in Great Britain and The US who are Anti-Semitic, and are being viewed very negatively. The Timing itself should lead people to question the intent of the attack.
I quote Maajid Nawaz regularly here. He is the liberal Muslim Brit who coined the term "Regressive Left", horrified by the way many on the Left make a bad situation worse by coddling the worst elements of Islam in the West. Mr. Nawaz can see both sides of this issue. I know being able to see both sides of an issue is not considered a good thing here.
He risks his life every day, pushing for reform of his beloved religion. He was assaulted, again, just the other day (I suspect he'll be attacked here, too - that's how they operate). Here's his take on the predictable madness that has followed the New Zealand attack.
The New Zealand Mosque Massacre Blame Game Is Out of Control
LONDON—The anti-Muslim terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand marked perhaps the lowest point for Muslim communities in the West since the Bosnia genocide. It has left no doubt that far-right extremism is on the march once more.
But the sheer human tragedy of this attack against my Muslim communities has not deterred extremists from those other two ends of our political spectrum, the far left and the theocratic Islamists, from seeking to exploit it for their own nefarious purposes.
So it is with no surprise that I noticed, a mere day after 50 of my fellow Muslims were so publicly and tragically killed, while the blood was still wet and the bodies remained unburied, that the ideologues had circled like vultures. Opportunistic Islamist and far-left extremists began calling for a purge of people whose politics they disagree with, and started publishing McCarthyite lists of personae non grata to target. Few have come under fiercer assault than my friend and collaborator in dialogue, Sam Harris. The following spectacle has been incredibly unedifying.
Of course, inflammatory anti-Muslim language must be condemned by us all, and many anti-Muslim provocateurs should take a hard look at themselves after New Zealand, just as we must condemn inflammatory Islamist and far-left language. That is different, though, from trying to silence an entire policy concern like Western foreign policy or opposing immigration and critiquing Islam respectively. Only the extremists wish to shut down debate. And so it is crucial that we do not respond to far-right extremism in such a way that we inadvertently empower extremists from other ends of the political spectrum. Terrorists prefer the bullet to the ballot. Let us not become pawns in their game.
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------------------------- Yip !!
Yip. Problem solved.
The attacker was not a White Supremacist.
His Travel Itinerary to The World's most Famous Terrorist Tourism Spots is a Huge Tipoff.
Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea, and now I am hearing Afghanistan too, are not places a White Supremacist would ever have a reason to go. Someone needing Training for a Jihadist Mission makes those tour stops. But let's just talk about just a singular issue that proves he is not a White Supremacist.
White Supremacists, HATE President Trump for 3 reasons.
1.) Donald Trump allowed his daughter to marry a Jew and has allowed Jared Kushner a Jew, in to The White House to be part of his administration.
2.) Donald Trump supports Israel’s Right to be a Sovereign Nation.
3.) Donald Trump moved The US Embassy to Jerusalem and recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
If one studies White Supremacists they will quickly realize that they share the same philosophies and hatred towards Jews, with Jihadists.
This Hatred of Jews for Neo Nazi White Supremacists is the same hatred and bigotry that made Nazi Germany and Arab Muslims Natural Allies in WW II.
Their hatred of Jews in both of these groups is so virulent that both groups have worked together on The Armenian Genocide and The Holocaust exterminating nearly 10 Million Jews combined! Turkey also a place where the attacker visited has an intense hatred of Jews and also participated officially in The Armenian Genocide of 2 Million Jews.
I can post interviews of White Supremacists citing Donald Trump's relationships with Jews as reasons they hate him. But it's widely known that is the truth.
The New Zealand Attacker was himself a Jihadist, and this was a carefully orchestrated PR campaign designed to affix blame to The West, and to Christianity. It was a false flag attack, & it is Islam's Version of playing The RACE CARD.
I believe they did it to change the narrative regarding Islam and Politicians in Great Britain and The US who are Anti-Semitic, and are being viewed very negatively. The Timing itself should lead people to question the intent of the attack.
The attacker IS as SELF-ADMITTED white supremacist who fears "replacement". You can lie six ways to Sunday about this but it doesn't change the fact that this is the 4th TIME A RIGHT WING TERRORIST HAS CREDITED DONALD TRUMP AS THE INSPIRATION FOR THEIR ATTACKS.
The USA is exporting a violent white nationalist agenda, and world leaders will be naming Trump as an open supporter of white nationalist terrorism.
He's trying to reform his religion, and is trying to do it with reason and civility while most people around him are screaming and hating.I quote Maajid Nawaz regularly here. He is the liberal Muslim Brit who coined the term "Regressive Left", horrified by the way many on the Left make a bad situation worse by coddling the worst elements of Islam in the West. Mr. Nawaz can see both sides of this issue. I know being able to see both sides of an issue is not considered a good thing here.
He risks his life every day, pushing for reform of his beloved religion. He was assaulted, again, just the other day (I suspect he'll be attacked here, too - that's how they operate). Here's his take on the predictable madness that has followed the New Zealand attack.
The New Zealand Mosque Massacre Blame Game Is Out of Control
LONDON—The anti-Muslim terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand marked perhaps the lowest point for Muslim communities in the West since the Bosnia genocide. It has left no doubt that far-right extremism is on the march once more.
But the sheer human tragedy of this attack against my Muslim communities has not deterred extremists from those other two ends of our political spectrum, the far left and the theocratic Islamists, from seeking to exploit it for their own nefarious purposes.
So it is with no surprise that I noticed, a mere day after 50 of my fellow Muslims were so publicly and tragically killed, while the blood was still wet and the bodies remained unburied, that the ideologues had circled like vultures. Opportunistic Islamist and far-left extremists began calling for a purge of people whose politics they disagree with, and started publishing McCarthyite lists of personae non grata to target. Few have come under fiercer assault than my friend and collaborator in dialogue, Sam Harris. The following spectacle has been incredibly unedifying.
Of course, inflammatory anti-Muslim language must be condemned by us all, and many anti-Muslim provocateurs should take a hard look at themselves after New Zealand, just as we must condemn inflammatory Islamist and far-left language. That is different, though, from trying to silence an entire policy concern like Western foreign policy or opposing immigration and critiquing Islam respectively. Only the extremists wish to shut down debate. And so it is crucial that we do not respond to far-right extremism in such a way that we inadvertently empower extremists from other ends of the political spectrum. Terrorists prefer the bullet to the ballot. Let us not become pawns in their game.
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Sorry Mac, but I found this piece disjointed, lacking any sort of focus, and it just seemed like the angry ramblings of someone who has no clue what to do.
Yeah, I've seen the show, and he has a lot of videos on YouTube.I quote Maajid Nawaz regularly here. He is the liberal Muslim Brit who coined the term "Regressive Left", horrified by the way many on the Left make a bad situation worse by coddling the worst elements of Islam in the West. Mr. Nawaz can see both sides of this issue. I know being able to see both sides of an issue is not considered a good thing here.
He risks his life every day, pushing for reform of his beloved religion. He was assaulted, again, just the other day (I suspect he'll be attacked here, too - that's how they operate). Here's his take on the predictable madness that has followed the New Zealand attack.
The New Zealand Mosque Massacre Blame Game Is Out of Control
LONDON—The anti-Muslim terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand marked perhaps the lowest point for Muslim communities in the West since the Bosnia genocide. It has left no doubt that far-right extremism is on the march once more.
But the sheer human tragedy of this attack against my Muslim communities has not deterred extremists from those other two ends of our political spectrum, the far left and the theocratic Islamists, from seeking to exploit it for their own nefarious purposes.
So it is with no surprise that I noticed, a mere day after 50 of my fellow Muslims were so publicly and tragically killed, while the blood was still wet and the bodies remained unburied, that the ideologues had circled like vultures. Opportunistic Islamist and far-left extremists began calling for a purge of people whose politics they disagree with, and started publishing McCarthyite lists of personae non grata to target. Few have come under fiercer assault than my friend and collaborator in dialogue, Sam Harris. The following spectacle has been incredibly unedifying.
Of course, inflammatory anti-Muslim language must be condemned by us all, and many anti-Muslim provocateurs should take a hard look at themselves after New Zealand, just as we must condemn inflammatory Islamist and far-left language. That is different, though, from trying to silence an entire policy concern like Western foreign policy or opposing immigration and critiquing Islam respectively. Only the extremists wish to shut down debate. And so it is crucial that we do not respond to far-right extremism in such a way that we inadvertently empower extremists from other ends of the political spectrum. Terrorists prefer the bullet to the ballot. Let us not become pawns in their game.
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I generally like Nawaz and think he is an important voice for a vast majority of Muslims I have met in the UK. Let me point out that he is a Liberal Democrat and would consider himself Centre Left of UK politics. When he mentions far left he would be commenting on certain faction within Labour Party.
He is also knows that meeting far right violence with violence is very wrong. The main thing is this is a moderate muslim who should be promoted and asked on a lot more show... News in UK spend far more time talking and promoting moderate muslims than US, US seems to spend more time talking about or to extremists...
P.S. Nawaz has a show on LBC radio station which you can get extracts on YouTube... Check out James O'Brien on the same station, some of his Brexit conversation with Brexiteers can just be funny...
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READ & RT: after jihadist attacks, we rightly hear from the left that we mustn’t blame all Muslims. So why after New Zealand have these same voices blamed media, the right wing & those who critique Islam. We must stop exploiting the dead for our politics
2:11 AM - 19 Mar 2019
Conflict is what the shooter wanted.
Some are giving it to him. We need to stop.
The attacker was not a White Supremacist.
His Travel Itinerary to The World's most Famous Terrorist Tourism Spots is a Huge Tipoff.
Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea, and now I am hearing Afghanistan too, are not places a White Supremacist would ever have a reason to go. Someone needing Training for a Jihadist Mission makes those tour stops. But let's just talk about just a singular issue that proves he is not a White Supremacist.
White Supremacists, HATE President Trump for 3 reasons.
1.) Donald Trump allowed his daughter to marry a Jew and has allowed Jared Kushner a Jew, in to The White House to be part of his administration.
2.) Donald Trump supports Israel’s Right to be a Sovereign Nation.
3.) Donald Trump moved The US Embassy to Jerusalem and recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
If one studies White Supremacists they will quickly realize that they share the same philosophies and hatred towards Jews, with Jihadists.
This Hatred of Jews for Neo Nazi White Supremacists is the same hatred and bigotry that made Nazi Germany and Arab Muslims Natural Allies in WW II.
Their hatred of Jews in both of these groups is so virulent that both groups have worked together on The Armenian Genocide and The Holocaust exterminating nearly 10 Million Jews combined! Turkey also a place where the attacker visited has an intense hatred of Jews and also participated officially in The Armenian Genocide of 2 Million Jews.
I can post interviews of White Supremacists citing Donald Trump's relationships with Jews as reasons they hate him. But it's widely known that is the truth.
The New Zealand Attacker was himself a Jihadist, and this was a carefully orchestrated PR campaign designed to affix blame to The West, and to Christianity. It was a false flag attack, & it is Islam's Version of playing The RACE CARD.
I believe they did it to change the narrative regarding Islam and Politicians in Great Britain and The US who are Anti-Semitic, and are being viewed very negatively. The Timing itself should lead people to question the intent of the attack.
The attacker IS as SELF-ADMITTED white supremacist who fears "replacement". You can lie six ways to Sunday about this but it doesn't change the fact that this is the 4th TIME A RIGHT WING TERRORIST HAS CREDITED DONALD TRUMP AS THE INSPIRATION FOR THEIR ATTACKS.
The USA is exporting a violent white nationalist agenda, and world leaders will be naming Trump as an open supporter of white nationalist terrorism.
Because he IS a right wing white nationalist?Conflict is what the shooter wanted.
Some are giving it to him. We need to stop.
Tell that to all of the media outlets and prominent liberals that are calling the shooter "right wing".
well, good for this guy. The problem is he doesn't see both sides. he is still requesting to stop anti muslim hate, and anti muslim hate is there due to the fact that leftists and muslims can't denounce radical muslims. just can't. until that day is here, the mere fact that some innocent lives were taken, doesn't change the dialogue in the rest of the world. And just because you or him want that can kiss my ass. Radical muslims terrorize this planet almost daily. In Syria, in Lebanon, in Isreal, in the US and anywhere else a muslim culture exists. Muslim hate is due to the radical fks you all can't denounce. DENOUNCE RADICAL MUSLIM BEHAVIOR first!!!!I quote Maajid Nawaz regularly here. He is the liberal Muslim Brit who coined the term "Regressive Left", horrified by the way many on the Left make a bad situation worse by coddling the worst elements of Islam in the West. Mr. Nawaz can see both sides of this issue. I know being able to see both sides of an issue is not considered a good thing here.
He risks his life every day, pushing for reform of his beloved religion. He was assaulted, again, just the other day (I suspect he'll be attacked here, too - that's how they operate). Here's his take on the predictable madness that has followed the New Zealand attack.
The New Zealand Mosque Massacre Blame Game Is Out of Control
LONDON—The anti-Muslim terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand marked perhaps the lowest point for Muslim communities in the West since the Bosnia genocide. It has left no doubt that far-right extremism is on the march once more.
But the sheer human tragedy of this attack against my Muslim communities has not deterred extremists from those other two ends of our political spectrum, the far left and the theocratic Islamists, from seeking to exploit it for their own nefarious purposes.
So it is with no surprise that I noticed, a mere day after 50 of my fellow Muslims were so publicly and tragically killed, while the blood was still wet and the bodies remained unburied, that the ideologues had circled like vultures. Opportunistic Islamist and far-left extremists began calling for a purge of people whose politics they disagree with, and started publishing McCarthyite lists of personae non grata to target. Few have come under fiercer assault than my friend and collaborator in dialogue, Sam Harris. The following spectacle has been incredibly unedifying.
Of course, inflammatory anti-Muslim language must be condemned by us all, and many anti-Muslim provocateurs should take a hard look at themselves after New Zealand, just as we must condemn inflammatory Islamist and far-left language. That is different, though, from trying to silence an entire policy concern like Western foreign policy or opposing immigration and critiquing Islam respectively. Only the extremists wish to shut down debate. And so it is crucial that we do not respond to far-right extremism in such a way that we inadvertently empower extremists from other ends of the political spectrum. Terrorists prefer the bullet to the ballot. Let us not become pawns in their game.
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Obviously you didn't read the piece.well, good for this guy. The problem is he doesn't see both sides. he is still requesting to stop anti muslim hate, and anti muslim hate is there due to the fact that leftists and muslims can't denounce radical muslims. just can't. until that day is here, the mere fact that some innocent lives were taken, doesn't change the dialogue in the rest of the world. And just because you or him want that can kiss my ass. Radical muslims terrorize this planet almost daily. In Syria, in Lebanon, in Isreal, in the US and anywhere else a muslim culture exists. Muslim hate is due to the radical fks you all can't denounce. DENOUNCE RADICAL MUSLIM BEHAVIOR first!!!!I quote Maajid Nawaz regularly here. He is the liberal Muslim Brit who coined the term "Regressive Left", horrified by the way many on the Left make a bad situation worse by coddling the worst elements of Islam in the West. Mr. Nawaz can see both sides of this issue. I know being able to see both sides of an issue is not considered a good thing here.
He risks his life every day, pushing for reform of his beloved religion. He was assaulted, again, just the other day (I suspect he'll be attacked here, too - that's how they operate). Here's his take on the predictable madness that has followed the New Zealand attack.
The New Zealand Mosque Massacre Blame Game Is Out of Control
LONDON—The anti-Muslim terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand marked perhaps the lowest point for Muslim communities in the West since the Bosnia genocide. It has left no doubt that far-right extremism is on the march once more.
But the sheer human tragedy of this attack against my Muslim communities has not deterred extremists from those other two ends of our political spectrum, the far left and the theocratic Islamists, from seeking to exploit it for their own nefarious purposes.
So it is with no surprise that I noticed, a mere day after 50 of my fellow Muslims were so publicly and tragically killed, while the blood was still wet and the bodies remained unburied, that the ideologues had circled like vultures. Opportunistic Islamist and far-left extremists began calling for a purge of people whose politics they disagree with, and started publishing McCarthyite lists of personae non grata to target. Few have come under fiercer assault than my friend and collaborator in dialogue, Sam Harris. The following spectacle has been incredibly unedifying.
Of course, inflammatory anti-Muslim language must be condemned by us all, and many anti-Muslim provocateurs should take a hard look at themselves after New Zealand, just as we must condemn inflammatory Islamist and far-left language. That is different, though, from trying to silence an entire policy concern like Western foreign policy or opposing immigration and critiquing Islam respectively. Only the extremists wish to shut down debate. And so it is crucial that we do not respond to far-right extremism in such a way that we inadvertently empower extremists from other ends of the political spectrum. Terrorists prefer the bullet to the ballot. Let us not become pawns in their game.
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I am going to ask you a couple of questions. I ask these questions, because I want to know if I can have a productive conversation with you, and whether your bias clouds your logic.
Do you love Israel and believe that they are God's Chosen People and that The Holy Land is The Promised Land given to Jews by God through The Abrahamic Convenant?
Do you believe Jesus is God, The Son of God, and was Immanuel "God With Us", and that He was crucified, resurrected and ascended in to heaven and is coming back again as The Messiah for both Jew and Gentile, and ALL THE PEOPLES OF EARTH who will accept Him?
Do you believe God chose The Jewish People to bless the entire world through Yahshua "Jesus" God, The Son of God, The Lamb of God who paid the wages of sin, taking our place instead, paying this debt for us, through His Crucifixion, Death, Resurrection and Ascension to win Salvation for all those who accept God's Gift, and God's Grace and believe that to be true?
You keep posting in the thread and you won't give a straight answer to a clear and direct question I have asked three (3) times now.Looking forward to a straight answer to my clear and direct question.Looking forward to a straight answer to my clear and direct question.No, I'm in full agreement with him, top to bottom.YOU seem to be ignoring his warnings about the right wing danger that Trump is encouraging.I wonder what happens in your mind when you read him say things about your end of this, the damage you're causing.He explained that when leaders pump up their followers by promising them utopian visions, and then fail to deliver on those promises, followers take action into their own hands. He expressed his concern that disappointed followers of Trump will "end up joining fascist or far-right groups" and take matters into their own hands against the eight million Muslims in the United States"
I wonder if you immediately ignore it, or if your mind is trained to just not see it.
He would ask you to open your mind a bit, I'd bet.
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Ya know...like Christchurch
Now, tell me: Do you find anything objectionable in that piece?
Please give me a straight answer.
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Do you find anything objectionable in this piece?
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Do you find anything objectionable in this piece?
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Take the rep Omar out of office for her speeches of anti-semitism.
