PoliticalChic
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Murder is murder regardless if the murder was motivated by differences in race , faith , religion or politics.Many complaints have been generated by the lack of vetting that Democrat/Liberals undergo....as compared to Republicans or conservatives do.
Vetting: make a careful and critical examination of one's qualifications and/or background.
Obama's, for example, was minimal...but....
When Sarah Palin arrived as a threat....
"Investigative Reporters Head to Alaska.... Alaska's getting pretty crowded...with investigative reporters and scandal-chasers."
Investigative Reporters Head to Alaska...And When Will Sarah Palin Meet the Press?
The following story, while of the same nature as above, the lack of scrutinizing, is far, far more significant. It also involves a Democrat, and lack of vetting.
..... the lack of careful investigation that changed America.
1. "When she was twelve years old, Ruth Stephenson was found sitting on the porch of the rectory of St. Paul’s Church in Birmingham, Alabama. She lived about a block away and was very attracted by the quiet faith of Catholics as they entered and left their church each day of the week. By chance, Ruth’s father happened by, saw her talking with the pastor, Fr. James Coyle, and peremptorily ordered her home."
The Murder of a Priest
2. Ruth's father was the Reverend Edwin Stephenson, "a minister of the now defunct Methodist Episcopal Church, South and a member of the Ku Klux Klan."
Sharon Davies, "Tragedy in Birmingham", Columbia Magazine, vol. 90, no. 3 (March 2010), p. 31.
"Last winter (when she was 18) he had whipped Ruth for staying out past nine thirty....On another occasion he had locked is daughter in her room for three days without food or water....Stephenson had joined in the lynching of an African American in 1902.....later he had shot a barber in his hometown of Birmingham."
Senator Mike Lee, "Our Lost Constitution," p. 89-90
3. During the summer of 1921, Stephenson went looking for his daughter, and went to the porch of the rectory of St. Paul’s Church in Birmingham, Alabama, and confronted the pastor, Fr. James Coyle.
"Where is my daughter?"
"With her husband."
"Well, my girl isn't married!!"
Coyle: "Your girl is a catholic, and she is married...I married her this evening."
"To whom???"
"...Pedro Gussman...a Catholic."
Gussman had once worked hanging wallpaper for Stephenson.
4. Stephenson had been famous for wishing "the whole Catholic institution was in hell!"
....now, his daughter married to a Catholic....and a Puerto Rican one at that!!!
"You have married her to that n***er! You...dirty, low down, yellow dog!"
Three shots rang out, and the unarmed Father James Coyle lay dead.
The Ku Klux Klan sprang into action arranging for a legal 'dream team' for Stephenson."
Ibid.
You'll never guess who the lead lawyer was....and how flimsy his vetting was.
But....he's pretty important in American history, and in the advancement of Democrat policy.
There was no due process before issuing death as the penalty.
If you look, neither the daughter or father had due process in decisions being made. We need to resolve these conflicts instead of resorting to exclusion coercion bullying and political physical or deadly force.
The daughter was oppressed and deprived of her rights to consent dissent or exercise her beliefs. Marrying her in private also bypassed the natural process of seeking parental approval for the spouse to propose marriage . to resolve conflicts peacefully civilly and democratically takes equal mutual commitment to respect due process and not deprive or deny anyone's right to consent or dissent, but to include all beliefs and respect each other despite conflicts.
We still haven't learned to do this.
And people are still shooting each other down, physically or politically , because we can't deal with differences.
Have you noticed that I 'deal with difference' on a daily basis?
You have?
Excellent.
I hope you'll stay tuned for the rest of this thread.
Dear PoliticalChic
What I MEAN is that we haven't managed differences in POLITICAL BELIEFS.
All we have is voting over the opposition and/or voting each other out of office.
But the damage is done in the meantime.
Look at the ACA mandates, look at the marriage and bathroom policies.
Just opposing the opposition isn't enough
when both sides demand equal rights and protections of Their respective BELIEFS.
That's what I mean.
The sides get so entrenched in their beliefs
they VIOLATE the rights of others to their equal beliefs!!!!
Why can't we AGREE to treat political beliefs like religious beliefs.
And agree to let people FUND THEIR OWN.
Muslims and Hindus do not put their beliefs up to a vote,
and impose one set of beliefs on the nation while denying, excluding and penalizing the other
if they fail to comply WITH RULES THEY DIDN'T AGREE TO THAT VIOLATE THEIR BELIEFS.
Why do we continue to allow political parties to do what we ban religious groups from doing??
"Just opposing the opposition isn't enough
when both sides demand equal rights and protections of Their respective BELIEFS.
1. Both sides are not equally correct nor beneficial for members of society.
What is important is to outline the differences, and debate what we have learned from the past, and what principles should be applied.
2. Here is the general...
' This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.
The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.'
3. And here is the specific, based on America: this nation was created based on these conservative principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
Moving from them leads to tyranny, chaos, and slaughter.
History has proven this.