A majority of Americans want to deport *all* illegal aliens.

There is no other possibility of how humans arrived than walking across the Bering Straits over 20k years ago. Ships did not exist until later. And we have their remains as proof.
That is license for current claims since they were here until only 300 years ago when European invaders massacred them.
Do you want to legally license massacre as a valid means of claiming land?
You might want to read the book 1491, if you have not done so. This book brings up other possibilities of how they got here. Adding even more to your point, on May 4, 1493, Pope Alexander VI issued a Papal Bull called “Inter Catera.” Inter Catera states that: any land not inhabited by Christians was available to be “discovered,” claimed, and exploited by Christian rulers and declared that “the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself.”

This is what established the Doctrine of Discovery. It was this doctrine that Europeans used to claim land that really did not belong to them. This doctrine was not agreed to outside of Europe; therefore all claims made by European descendants here about what they discovered are false and basically every European American is a descendant of what is considered an illegal immigrant today.
 
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Which is why Patriots should do everything in their power to do to ensure the GOP remains in the majority in Congress in the midterms and again in 2028. We need to elect JD or somebody like him to carry on Trump's vision and instincts of what needs to happen.

If we can retain power for maybe 12 to 20 years, we may be able to eradicate the deep state and restore normalcy in America that is lasting. The Deep State has been infiltrating American institutions since the 1970's. It cannot be ferreted out and rejected overnight.

If the Democrat Party even still exists by that time, we can hope it will have reformed itself and again represent good Americans who love America and want what is best for their country and fellow Americans again.

Wrong.
The GOP is just as greedy and corrupt as the democrats. Look at Bush with his false WMD claims about Iraq, in order to raise the price of Texas oil?
It either party was not totally corrupt, we would have free public health care like the rest of the world by now.
 
Two of the theories involve Atlantic ice and sea travel.

What people did 300 years ago is no basis to accuse people living here and now.

I do wish people understood enough history to understand that.
BS. What people did 300 years ago was celebrated yesterday. The only time we see this statement being made is when history doesn't glorify whites.
 
Wrong.
There were no immigration laws until around the 1920s, and these laws were never legal.
It was just based on racism and in violation of the basis for any republic.

But deporting has always also been foolish, since immigration has always been beneficial to the economy. How else can we compete with China.

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Mexican worker tips the balance favoring the US in the competition with China
 
Yes we do need them, if we want to stop the National Debt from defaulting, Social Security from defaulting, the US going bankrupt, and losing everything.

You mean socialism is a ponzi scheme in need of new victims?
 
Wrong.
The GOP is just as greedy and corrupt as the democrats. Look at Bush with his false WMD claims about Iraq, in order to raise the price of Texas oil?
It either party was not totally corrupt, we would have free public health care like the rest of the world by now.
First off, the deep state is Trump and his current administration. Both Bill Clinton, via Hillary and Obama tried to get single-payer nationalized health care.
 
Wrong.
The GOP is just as greedy and corrupt as the democrats. Look at Bush with his false WMD claims about Iraq, in order to raise the price of Texas oil?
It either party was not totally corrupt, we would have free public health care like the rest of the world by now.
Prove/provide credible evidence from a credible source that Bush did not know there was no WMD in Iraq or his motive was to raise the price of Texas oil. Prove/provide credible evidence from a credible source that there was no WMD in Iraq since Saddam had weeks to move it.

Explain how not providing free public health care is corrupt. For that matter explain how health care can be provided without somebody paying for it.
 
Even better, amend the Constitution. Oh wait, you don't have the votes for that either. Apparently you will have more luck just moving to another country. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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A majority of Americans want to deport all illegal aliens.​


Remember, it never is a 'true' majority unless they are democrats. :smoke:
  • When Hillary won the popular vote by a couple million in 2016, she was the legitimate, popular president as recognized in any true democracy.
  • When Trump won the popular vote by a couple million in 2024, it was only a fluke because a lot of democrats stayed home and didn't bother to come out to vote for Kammy.
Just ask any democrat. :smoke:
 
It is you who do not know what "law" is.
Law is not legislation.
There is bad legislation all the time that gets struck down by appeal.
How do you think appeals courts know when to strike down legislation?
It is because in a republic, law is based on basic principles.
And essentially the basic principle is the defense of inherent individual rights.

But then you should immediately see that legislation like Prohibition, the War on Drugs, consenting adult sex laws, etc., are all inherently illegal because they defend no one.
Lots of legislation is actually illegal.
Now I remember why I had you on Iggie. Have a blessed life.
 
Wrong.
The GOP is just as greedy and corrupt as the democrats. Look at Bush with his false WMD claims about Iraq, in order to raise the price of Texas oil?
It either party was not totally corrupt, we would have free public health care like the rest of the world by now.

Agree with you on both sides being corrupt, BUT you're a naive if you don't acknowledge the countries with free healthcare, which we're paying for in one way or another, are also full of corruption.
 
Wrong.
There were no immigration laws until around the 1920s, and these laws were never legal.
It was just based on racism and in violation of the basis for any republic.

But deporting has always also been foolish, since immigration has always been beneficial to the economy. How else can we compete with China.
So says a generic garden variety 2025 democrat.


The Immigration Act of 1891 was a significant piece of legislation in the United States that aimed to streamline and enforce immigration laws. It marked a pivotal shift in the responsibility for immigration oversight to the federal government, centralizing enforcement under the executive branch rather than leaving it to state agencies. This change allowed for more systematic inspections at coastal ports and along the borders with Canada and Mexico, addressing concerns over unregulated immigration that had previously allowed many individuals to enter without scrutiny.

The act expanded the list of individuals who could be excluded or deported, incorporating categories such as those deemed mentally unfit, paupers, and individuals with criminal records, as well as those suffering from certain contagious diseases. By establishing the Office of Superintendent of Immigration, the act laid the groundwork for a more organized federal approach to managing immigration, which eventually evolved into the Bureau of Immigration by 1894.

This legislation reflects the complexities of immigration policy during a time of growing national concern about who could enter the country and under what circumstances, highlighting the ongoing balance between humanitarian considerations and regulatory oversight.
 
I support nearly all of Trump's policies, but the 3000 per day quota to deport all illegal aliens creates more problems than it solves IMO. If you think it through, it makes more sense to focus on illegal criminals and then a case by case basis for the remaining illegals.

I would only modify that slightly, Mike:

We need to deport more like 30,000/day in order to be free of all illegals Biden let in + the 20 million already here when Trump took office by the time Trump's term is out. So, I'd recommend we step it up to deport anyone here illegally we can find in violation of immigration law with one team of ICE agents while another focuses strictly on heinous criminal offenders.​
I understand that ICE is looking to hire lots of people, so if anyone is looking for a good paying job with challenging and interesting work, I would inquire soon.
 
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At his peak, Biden was letting in over 7,000 per day. I have no problem cranking up the deportations to 5,000 a day. Rip that bandaid off.
Again, rubber stamping thousands per day on the way IN is far easier than rounding up and deporting thousands per day who are scattered all across the country. IMO that creates more problems than it solves.
 
The law does not have to change, just those who are illegally violating the law with enforcement that is in violation of the law.
So all we have to do is get rid of ICE.
There is plenty of legislation to allow for asylum seekers to be instantly made citizens.
ICE is simply interfering and threatening judges who try to uphold the law.

Are you going to self-deport before ICE catches you?
 
The basis for a republic is defense of inherent rights of all individuals.
The basis for a republic is defense of inherent rights of individual citizens.

Violate that by abusing immigrants, and you violate the republic.
Incorrect and immaterial.

Illegal Aliens violated U.S. law by stepping-foot on U.S. soil without our express prior consent.

They should be accorded HUMAN rights ( to be allowed to continue living, etc. ) but NOT the rights of U.S. ciitizens.

They are being deported, not abused; and that after THEY abused our laws AND our good nature.

Phukk 'em... they go.


We obviously need immigrants more than ever, with a $37 trillion deficit, SS going bankrupt, etc.
"If we free the slaves who will pick our cotton?"

We'll figure it out... once the 20,000,000 Illegal Aliens are gone.
 
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