I've been seeing some pretty interesting analysis on this (of course, the analysis is always easier AFTER the fact).
1. If you had asked the average person, say, 5 or 10 years ago, which party would be closer to being populist and which was closer to being for The Big Guy, I think it's pretty clear that most would have said the Dems were closer to being populist. But somehow the GOP beat the Dems to the punch, and the Dems made it easier by running Hillary. Stunning. And reading Dems sites, they're sure as hell stunned, too.
2. And here's another thing: Chris Matthews (yes, I know) made an interesting point yesterday: You know those concerts with the music superstars for Hillary, like Beyonce and the rest? He wondered if those things drove home the point above, by having them all onstage together in "The Winner's Club" -- all these rich, successful people hugging each other. Maybe stuff like that was a net negative.
3. Finally, now that the dust has settled a bit, I think overall half of us just didn't understand the rage that it took to vote for Trump. Enough rage to ignore his myriad faults and weaknesses and behaviors and words and everything else. THAT is a LOT of rage right there. Obama was not able to deliver on the promises he made overall, and a lot of faith was placed in him. Let's see how Trump responds.
My two cents, worth every penny.
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Maybe one day you will be able to reject the propaganda....
Just as I don't know or understand you, you don't know or understand me.
The constant insults aren't necessary.
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I have him on ignore but I gotta ask, where was the insult in that post?
That I buy into propaganda, which is generally the theme of many of his posts to me. Among others.
Ironic, coming from a person who has clearly bought into everything sold to him by right wing radio and conservative internet.
He doesn't have normal adult conversations, he simply spouts talking points and vague insults.
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And now to respond to Mac.
You read these boards Mac, how many astro turfing lefties on here kept telling everyone how wonderful the economy was, highlighted the unemployment rate, and poo-pooed anyone talking about the participation rate, putting forth talking point excuses.
What did union and blue collar America say in far greater numbers than before what THEY was true at the pols? You see, when you and I talked while I was in Florida taking its pulse in March, what was going to happen there, and what a counterpart of mine in Penn said, if everything stayed the same. Blue collar people were pissed! They, (along with most thinking individuals) knew that they were being lied to for the express purpose of covering up liberal economic policy failure.
Remember when I told you that all Hispanic cultures were NOT created equal? I put forth the notion to you, that the Cubans in Florida where I was at the time, would NOT vote overwhelmingly for Clinton, and that would push Trump over the top there. Rightwinger told me I had no idea what I was talking about along with Jillian, even as I was traveling through Southern Florida taking surveys that sat right in front of me on the table as he/she lambasted me, that said exactly opposite of what they were saying.
March is a long time from November, and as everything dropped on both candidates, I no longer had a clue what effect it would have, or who/whom was going to win. All I can tell you from the research we did in March, we had Trump winning Florida, Penn, and Ohio; but here is the kicker, our other surveyor had him losing Wisconsin if he was the nominee, by 1.2%, and that was taken in late August. And so, with everything being equal, I would have to say that MORE people moved towards Trump in the waning days, since he carried Wisconsin.
And so, from a political standpoint, the post mortem says this as far as going forward-------------->the republicans will do everything they can to keep their word to revitalize coal country and manufacturing jobs in the rust belt. Why? Because the almighty blue wall of the Democrats has been breached in much more than one place, and the last time that happened and the republicans kept their word to blue collar working men and women, in the next election, Ronald Reagan won every state but Minnesota. Call them dumb if you like, but seeing that, I believe it would be called a clue.
Without the blue wall, Democrats can't win anything as they only have California, New York, Illinois, and Mass. The rest of the states have few electoral votes, and some of them would still be considered swing votes that could be won. The repubs got more control in states this election, and the Democratic slide continues across the country as far as what they actually control. Their control loss was most apparent even in the last 6 years, as their agenda had to be passed by EOs instead of by congressional laws. Their regulations had to be passed by EOs, and the EPA that was NEVER signed by congress, which means they can just be rolled back with a stroke of a pen.
While I agree that the huge population centers vote mostly Democratic, we are NOT a Democracy, we are a Republic. With that in mind, the Dems for the forseeable future are SOL as far as exerting their agenda nationwide without using EOs, and we know how easily they can be rescinded. On the other hand, we now see with the executive branch in their hands, the Republicans CAN and WILL pas laws, that are much harder to ignore; unless of course your name is Obama. But the solution to that is the Supreme Court, which they may have a hand in moulding for a generation to come. In this case, the next Obama will get ***** slapped pretty quickly, and with the influx of illegals being stopped, with a little intelligence to keep the whitehouse for 8 years while installing these policies, it may very well be the Democrats on the outside looking in for the next 20 years.
P.S. Not to put something on this thread NOT pertinent, but HEY RIGHTWINGER, how is that signature of yours working out for you? Which one? The one that said----->
The NEXT REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT HASN'T BEEN BORN YET! Lololol. How is it working out for you and silly Jilly anyway-)
