A grievous administrative error.

[Supposn]

ProgressiveHunter,
furthernotes regarding Kilimar Abrego Garcia:

TheTrump administration made an agreement with ElSalvador toimprison deportees in the TerrorismConfinement Center (CECOT),a Salvadoran prison notorious for harsh conditions, for US$6 millionper year.


I have No doubt, if president Trump gave the Salvadorian ambassador reason to believe he prefers Kilimar not be returned to theUSA,President Nayib Bukele would consider pleasing the president ofthe USA to be of advantage to both him and Trump. I speculate that's what actually happen.

The lawyer on Abrego Garcia's behalf, applied for his "withholding of removal" status.[38] This request was granted by immigration judge David M. Jones, who issued a removal order but barred deportation to El Salvador, saying he faced a "clear probability of future persecution" in the country,and he "demonstrated that [El Salvador's][d] authorities were and would be unable or unwilling to protect him."[18][26] The judge wrote that Abrego Garcia provided "substantial documentation" in favor of his claims and that his testimony was"internally consistent, externally consistent", and"appeared free of embellishment".[25]

Withholding of removal status is "similar to asylum" but requires a higher burden of proof, and does not preclude potential deportationto a thirdcountry notcovered by the status.[41]
Thus, if government should prevail and may legally deport Garcia, they cannot deport him to El Salvador unless the basis of his withholding of removal" status is proven to the courts satisfaction as no longer being the case. Lacking the rescinding of that status, the administration is legally prohibited from deporting him to the nation of El Salvador.

[42] Those granted the status are allowed to remain and work lawfully in theU.S. indefinitely,[43] thoughthey do not become eligible for a greencard and permanentresidency after a period of time[41][43] orgain a path to citizenship.[42] After Abrego Garcia won the status, he was released from custody and the U.S Immigration and Customs Enforcement's lawyers didn't appeal the court's ruling.[25][38]

Onthe April 4 hearing before Judge Xinis, JusticeDepartment lawyer Erez Reuveni frequently refused to answer the judge's questions, and stated that the justice department had failed to give him the information he needed to respond to the Judge's inquiries. Reuveni admitted the deportation was a mistake, saying "the facts are conceded, plaintiff Abrego Garcia should not have been removed,"and when questioned on why the government was not able to return Abrego Garcia to the U.S., Reuveni stated that he had asked the same question to government officials and had not received an answer.[76]

 

[Supposn]

Bullshit. He's an illegal alien, he's not LEGALLY allowed to work, at all.

He was arrested loitering in front of a Home Depot. What does that tell you?

His "job" appears to be transporting other illegals for the gangs. Who else is going to pay him to move 8 people at a time from Texas to Maryland?
At BEST this guy's an illegal day laborer. More likely he's a paid human trafficker. He's an UNDESIRABLE illegal alien, he doesn't work and he keeps getting busted.

Scruffy, you're very naive and/or illogical. Kilimar Garcia's a “human trafficker” loitering in front of a USA Home Depot to recruit clients? Human traffickers of illegal immigrants don't find their clients in the USA; They find their clients from where their clients are coming from.

IIlegal aliens don't pay someone to take them from Texas to Maryland; they hitch-hike or take buses. They often need to find work along the way.

Your speculation of him being a day laborer is likely correct. I suppose within many, if not most urban, and in many of their suburban USA area's, there are street corners which effectively are locations of outdoor hiring-exchanges for single-or-more-days laborers. That's where Employers who cannot find, or cannot afford the“on-the-books” laborers, seek laborers who are unable to obtain, or for many reasons don't dare obtain “on the books” jobs.

Thoseworkers are among the most poorly paid, hardest working, and disadvantaged people in the USA. Because they're among the most vulnerable of workers, they often have no alternative but to accept being “short-changed” and/or working in unsafe, and/or illegal working conditions.

You quoted excerpts of my post, but you apparently forgot or disregarded my mentioning prior to his deportation, Kilimar Garcia could be legally employed work in the USA. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Supposn]

The attornies for Donald Trump as a USA resident, and/or citizen, and/or a defendant in civil or criminal case,and/or a political candidate,and/or as the chief executive of USA's executive branch of government and/or a private enterprise, have striven to defend all of Trump's, and his associates', and his administrations' entitlements. On behalf of their clients, those lawyers, (as is required by their profession), pressed all arguments favoring their clients, that might conceivably get past the scrutiny of a presiding judge.

It's despicable that Donald Trump, who so often sought and has been granted all entitlements of his legally due processes, should deliberately seek, and did succeed to illegally deny others of their similar considerations by our government's courts as required by the laws, the courts, and the constitution of our United States.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The attornies for Donald Trump as a USA resident, and/or citizen, and/or a defendant in civil or criminal case,and/or a political candidate,and/or as the chief executive of USA's executive branch of government and/or a private enterprise, have striven to defend all of Trump's, and his associates', and his administrations' entitlements. On behalf of their clients, those lawyers, (as is required by their profession), pressed all arguments favoring their clients, that might conceivably get past the scrutiny of a presiding judge.

It's despicable that Donald Trump, who so often sought and has been granted all entitlements of his legally due processes, should deliberately seek, and did succeed to illegally deny others of their similar considerations by our government's courts as required by the laws, the courts, and the constitution of our United States.

Respectfully, Supposn

It's very sad that some illegal aliens were finally deported.

I may shed a tear.

 

[BluesLegend]

He was arrested loitering in front of a Home Depot. What does that tell you?

That he works under the table and doesn't pay any taxes. Normally Dems would be up in arms about that.

 

[BluesLegend]

It's despicable that Donald Trump, who so often sought and has been granted all entitlements of his legally due processes, should deliberately seek, and did succeed to illegally deny others of their similar considerations by our government's courts as required by the laws, the courts, and the constitution of our United States.

Riiiiight Dems and illegal scum were so concerned about the law while breaking umpteen dozen laws flooding into the country illegally and committing all sorts of crimes after they snuck in.

 

[Supposn]

It's very sad that some illegal aliens were finally deported.

I may shed a tear.

Toddsterpatriot,president Trump and his minions deliberatelyand often knowingly illegally evade, our nation's laws, our courts,and our constitution.

OurU.S. Congress with, (or under some circumstances without thepresident's approval), writes our federal laws. Our federal courtsystems are the final interpreters of those laws and the legalapplication of those laws. The president swore to “... faithfullyexecute the office of President of the United States, and will to thebest of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution ofthe United States".

I cry with rage when the president of our democratic-republic betrays his oath of office,and/or when so many of our citizens do not understand or appreciateour form of government, it's legal systems, and its constitution.
It's not merely sad, it's consequentially disastrous. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot,president Trump and his minions deliberatelyand often knowingly illegally evade, our nation's laws, our courts,and our constitution.

OurU.S. Congress with, (or under some circumstances without thepresident's approval), writes our federal laws. Our federal courtsystems are the final interpreters of those laws and the legalapplication of those laws. The president swore to “... faithfullyexecute the office of President of the United States, and will to thebest of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution ofthe United States".

I cry with rage when the president of our democratic-republic betrays his oath of office,and/or when so many of our citizens do not understand or appreciateour form of government, it's legal systems, and its constitution.
It's not merely sad, it's consequentially disastrous. Respectfully, Supposn

Cry with rage that violent illegal aliens are deported.

 

[Supposn]

Cry with rage that violent illegal aliens are deported.

Toddsterpatriot, no, I cry with rage when I encounter those implying they're "USA patriots”, but do not appreciate our nation's constitution that upholds our laws. In accordance with our constitution, our federal court systems determines the interpretation of our constitution and its laws.

A democratic-republic government is not sustainable if their government's officials treat their legal system similar to a cafeteria. A constitutional government's officials, (unlike officials within an authoritarian state), are not permitted to choose what laws the wish to have on their plates and disregard everything else.
Only ignorant and/or illogical people believe otherwise. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[westwall]

Toddsterpatriot, no, I cry with rage when I encounter those implying they're USApatriots”, but do not appreciate our nation's constitution thatupholds our laws. In accordance with our constitution, our federal court systems determines the interpretation of our constitution and its laws.

A democratic-republic government is not sustainable if their government's officials treat their legal system similar to a cafeteria. A constitutional government's officials, (unlike officials within an authoritarian state), are not permitted to choose what laws the wish to have on their plates and disregard everything else.
Only ignorant and/or illogical people believe otherwise. Respectfully, Supposn

The COTUS doesn't apply to non citizens.

 

[Supposn]

The COTUS doesn't apply to non citizens.

Westwall, our federal district courts and our U.S. Supreme Court all have decided otherwise. Your interpretation of federal laws are incorrect. Respectfully.Supposn

 

[westwall]

Westwall, our federal district courts and our U.S. Supreme Court all have decided otherwise. Your interpretation of federal laws are incorrect. Respectfully.Supposn

No, they haven't. There have been multiple rulings that say you're wrong.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

OP: Why are you protecting a wife-beating gang member?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, no, I cry with rage when I encounter those implying they're "USA patriots”, but do not appreciate our nation's constitution that upholds our laws. In accordance with our constitution, our federal court systems determines the interpretation of our constitution and its laws.

A democratic-republic government is not sustainable if their government's officials treat their legal system similar to a cafeteria. A constitutional government's officials, (unlike officials within an authoritarian state), are not permitted to choose what laws the wish to have on their plates and disregard everything else.
Only ignorant and/or illogical people believe otherwise. Respectfully, Supposn

but do not appreciate our nation's constitution that upholds our laws.

I agree, those Biden administration officials should be jailed for facilitating
the illegal alien invasion.

A constitutional government's officials, (unlike officials within an authoritarian state), are not permitted to choose what laws the wish to have on their plates and disregard everything else.

You're right, the Biden administration officials should probably be executed.

Only ignorant and/or illogical people believe otherwise.

Don't be so rough on yourself.

 

[Edgetho]

ALL civilizations have had to contend with 'High Priests' who somehow gather power through trick, superstition and deceit.

In Egypt they were extremely powerful, In Greece and Rome, less so but they were still there. Bigly.

In the Western Christian Church, people have been executed for interpreting scripture the 'wrong' way. The High Priests want to keep that power all to themselve. Galileo got in trouble for interpreting scripture.

In Islam? Don't even think about it. They're not as bad as they used to be but -- Don't do it. Bad idea. The Mullahs won't like it.

We have our own 'High Priests' in this Country now. Hacks in Black.

When any one of 670 High Priests (they call themselves District Judges) can tell a POTUS, who was duly elected by ALL The People that he can't perform his Executive Function duties unless they approve...... Houston, we have a problem.

The Judiciary needs to have a leash put on them. They're out of control and it's getting very dangerous.

No matter how much things change, they stay the same.

 

[Supposn]

The COTUS doesn't apply to non citizens.

Westwall, our federal district courts and our U.S. Supreme Court all have decided otherwise. Your interpretation of federal laws are incorrect. Respectfully.Supposn

Westwall,can you cite a single federal case involving a legal or illegal immigrant, where the federal courts found the government's bypassing of due process of law to be acceptable? You contention is incorrect.

In regard to federal cases involving Kilimar Garcia, the government claims to have inadvertently disobeyed our federal laws. They described it as an “administrative error”.

The courts found that to be unacceptable. Respectfully,Supposn

 

[Supposn]

OP: Why are you protecting a wife-beating gang member?

Freedomisneverfree, accepting and respecting the United State's constitution and laws, even when its not to our convenience, is among the prices we must pay if we intendfor our freedoms to be sustained.

Are you a proponent of law and order only when its consequences are to your own preferences and convenience? Respectfully, Supposn

 

[westwall]

Westwall,can you cite a single federal case involving a legal or illegal immigrant, where the federal courts found the government's bypassing of due process of law to be acceptable? You contention is incorrect.

In regard to federal cases involving Kilimar Garcia, the government claims to have inadvertently disobeyed our federal laws. They described it as an “administrative error”.

The courts found that to be unacceptable. Respectfully,Supposn

It has already been adjudicated that an illegal alien is only entitled to a bus ride to the border if they are caught.

 

[scruffy]

Freedomisneverfree, accepting and respecting the United State's constitution and laws, even when its not to our convenience, is among the prices we must pay if we intendfor our freedoms to be sustained.

Are you a proponent of law and order only when its consequences are to your own preferences and convenience? Respectfully, Supposn

Garcia got his due process.

It resulted in multiple deportation orders.

So now he's deported. End of story.

What happens in the other side is his problem, not ours.

We need deterrents like this to stem the flow of illegals. In case you haven't noticed, that flow has slowed to a trickle.

 

[Care4all]

1. The "administrative error" was sending him back to El Salvador after a US judge said he was in jeopardy there "from a rival gang", not the government. He could have been deported to any other country, and it would be perfectly legal.

2. Since when do we care about the well-being of MS-13 members? That judge should revise his order to send Garcia back to El Salvador where MS-13 members are put in prison. He is where he belongs.

Nowhere does it say he was in fear of a RIVAL gang!