a great defense of infrastructure spending

Care to actually try to prove that it is not theft?

Care to prove it is?

Sure. Taxation is theft because the people taking the property of someone else are not asking consent or for a mutual exchange. They are demanding payment under the threat of violence if one does not comply. No different than a common thief.

We elect people to represent us who then decide how much we need to be taxed and where those revenues will be spent. The government is the people, not this boogeyman that you have created in your mind. If you believe we are being overtaxed or that we should not be taxed at all, then vote for representatives who think we should not pay any taxes. But whatever you do, quit the lies about some boogeyman stealing from you.
 
that is why they dont like to discuss the federalist papers.

it shows all those founders quotes they use are not about what they claim they are
 
That is not a defense of infrastructure spending, that is an attempt to defend protectionist policies using an 18th century point of view where it was impossible to talk your neighbor without taking an hour out of your day, never mind dealing with the ability to get something from China to your house within 24 hours.

In other words, it is one idiot using an outdated worldview to justify trade wars.

I take it, you're not one of the guys who wants to 'return to the Constitution'.
 
this shows just how real their commitment to the constitution is.

its all flase crap and twisted meanings of founders quotes.

the right is begining to say what they really think.

Its great for this country that the do that.

It shows how bankrupt their talking points are
 
about what and please provide a cite to back up your assertion.

THIRD time truthmatters.

i asked nicely and you still can't back up your assertions. this is becoming a habit with you.

yurt I did.

I produced the ACTIONS of Jefferson himeself as president

where? if you're only producing actions tm, that is not proof, that is YOUR opinion of his actions. you said he "admitted"...that is quite different than you interpreting his actions.

please refer me to the post where you produced these alleged actions. thanks.
 
American President: Biography of Thomas Jefferson


Doubling the Nation's Size: The Louisiana Purchase

When Jefferson learned that Spain had secretly ceded Louisiana to France in 1800, he instructed his ministers to negotiate the purchase of the port of New Orleans and possibly West Florida. Jefferson strategically made this move in order to insure that American farmers in the Ohio River Valley had access to the Gulf of Mexico via the Mississippi River—the river was a key to the farmers' economic well-being, as they needed a vent for their surplus grain and meat. Even before the French took over Louisiana, the Spaniards had closed the Mississippi River in 1802. While Jefferson was known to be partial to the French, having the Emperor Napoleon's driving interests for world domination next door was not an attractive prospect; thus, Jefferson acted swiftly.

To his surprise, Napoleon, needing funds to finance a new European war with England, offered to sell Jefferson most of the land from the Mississippi River to the Rocky Mountains. His price of $15 million amounted to approximately four cents per acre for 828,000 square miles, doubling the size of the nation. Although Jefferson understood that the U.S. Constitution said nothing about the purchase of foreign territory, he set aside his strict constructionist ideals to make the deal—Congress approved the purchase five months after the fact. Jefferson then outfitted a twenty-five man expedition to explore the new lands. Led by his secretary, Meriwether Lewis, and Army Captain William Clark, these adventurers took two and one-half years to cover 8,000 miles. They traveled up the Missouri River, across the Continental Divide, and down the Columbia River to the Pacific before retracing their steps to St. Louis. The expedition is considered one of the great exploratory quests in human history.

if this is your proof that jefferson admitted hamilton was right, you are sorely mistaken.

you're not being dishonest, rather, you're being one sided and wholly misinterpreting his actions and intent. expanding our territory in now way shape or form "admits" hamilton was right.
 

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