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so you don't know if a person is black unless they bring the family photos with them? i'll leave aside the fact that that's not what you said the first time, captain beefheart.
nikfail
You do know that Plessy, of USSC fame, looked completely white, yes?
yes, and i'm pretty sure that it's got nothing to do with the issue at hand.
carry on.
p.s. he's dead, so don't worry about mistakenly calling him a redneck.
So when noose said:
Was he agreeing with you or disagreeing with you?
Neither. What he posted is called a non-sequitur.
When one maligns rednecks, they're maligning all rednecks. When one maligns blacks, they're maligning all blacks.
Fail.
He wasn't talking about maligning some v. all rednecks. He was specifying the difference between a sub group of a race (whites) and all the members of a particular race (blacks).
But not all, which is why race, like gender, as you pointed out, is a social construct.Amount of melatonin, and that is affected by exposure to the sun.The color of ones skin is a genetic variable.
Being perceived or self identifying as black involves more than shade of skin.
It does, and most of those traits are genetic ones.
No, I meantioned skin color.![]()
Yes, you did mention skin color. You also said:
The only characteristic you offer regarding "black" is skin color
Manilie.
If you offered a characteristic that didn't involve skin color I missed it. Be a dear and post it again please?
But not all, which is why race, like gender, as you pointed out, is a social construct.Amount of melatonin, and that is affected by exposure to the sun.
Being perceived or self identifying as black involves more than shade of skin.
It does, and most of those traits are genetic ones.
You do know that Plessy, of USSC fame, looked completely white, yes?
yes, and i'm pretty sure that it's got nothing to do with the issue at hand.
carry on.
p.s. he's dead, so don't worry about mistakenly calling him a redneck.
Considering you are so often wrong, you should be less sure.
So, was Plessy black Del? Or was he white?
When I said:
Wait...you mean we have different standards for judging people on how they act v. judging people on their skin color?
How terribly absurd and elitist of us
In response to the OP, was I disagreeing or agreeing with you?
Neither. You were agreeing with your own mischaracterization of what is contained in the OP.











Which racial traits are not genetic?But not all, which is why race, like gender, as you pointed out, is a social construct.Amount of melatonin, and that is affected by exposure to the sun.
Being perceived or self identifying as black involves more than shade of skin.
It does, and most of those traits are genetic ones.
yes, and i'm pretty sure that it's got nothing to do with the issue at hand.
carry on.
p.s. he's dead, so don't worry about mistakenly calling him a redneck.
Considering you are so often wrong, you should be less sure.
So, was Plessy black Del? Or was he white?
keep flailing about, captain.
maybe you can work marbury v. madison into your next attempt?
Neither. What he posted is called a non-sequitur.
When one maligns rednecks, they're maligning all rednecks. When one maligns blacks, they're maligning all blacks.
Fail.
He wasn't talking about maligning some v. all rednecks. He was specifying the difference between a sub group of a race (whites) and all the members of a particular race (blacks).
Nikfail.
The OP said nothing about whites. That is why his post is a non-sequitur.
Yes, you did mention skin color. You also said:
Manilie.
If you offered a characteristic that didn't involve skin color I missed it. Be a dear and post it again please?
You do understand the difference between ones ancestors skin color and ones own skin color, yes?
If you offered a characteristic that didn't involve skin color I missed it. Be a dear and post it again please?
You do understand the difference between ones ancestors skin color and ones own skin color, yes?
No. I don't. Everyone I know shares the same skin color with at least one of their parents. Alleging that you need to know the skin color of one's parents to determine their skin color is illogical, circular nonsense.
Here's a dramatization as proof:
mani: Is David Ortiz black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were his parents?
mani: Here is a picture of his parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
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keep flailing about, captain.
maybe you can work marbury v. madison into your next attempt?
Keep dodging actual questions, son.
keep deflecting, junior.
You do understand the difference between ones ancestors skin color and ones own skin color, yes?
No. I don't. Everyone I know shares the same skin color with at least one of their parents. Alleging that you need to know the skin color of one's parents to determine their skin color is illogical, circular nonsense.
Here's a dramatization as proof:
mani: Is David Ortiz black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were his parents?
mani: Here is a picture of his parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
![]()
Shares the same skin color as at least one of their parents?
![]()
So which skin color does Obama share?
Or is he a mix of the two...that is to say, half black, half white?

You can't always tell if a man is a man by looking at him either, but that doesn't change the fact that he is by definition a man.
You can't always tell if a redneck is a redneck by looking at him either, but according to you that doesn't change that fact that he is by definition, intolerant.
This is just too damn fun. Keep it coming, please.![]()
And?
Who would have thought you'd find it fun to be shown to be a complete moron.
A wee bit of a masochist are you, Mani?
No. I don't. Everyone I know shares the same skin color with at least one of their parents. Alleging that you need to know the skin color of one's parents to determine their skin color is illogical, circular nonsense.
Here's a dramatization as proof:
mani: Is David Ortiz black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were his parents?
mani: Here is a picture of his parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
mani: Here is a picture of their parents, are they black?
Nikfail: I don't know, what skin color were their parents?
![]()
Shares the same skin color as at least one of their parents?
![]()
So which skin color does Obama share?
Or is he a mix of the two...that is to say, half black, half white?
Both. I said AT LEAST one parent. I didn't say only one.![]()






You can't always tell if a redneck is a redneck by looking at him either, but according to you that doesn't change that fact that he is by definition, intolerant.
This is just too damn fun. Keep it coming, please.![]()
And?
Who would have thought you'd find it fun to be shown to be a complete moron.
A wee bit of a masochist are you, Mani?
Awwww. Poor mani, did I make you cry?
Shares the same skin color as at least one of their parents?
![]()
So which skin color does Obama share?
Or is he a mix of the two...that is to say, half black, half white?
Both. I said AT LEAST one parent. I didn't say only one.![]()
Obama shares both skin colors?
Obama is fully white and fully black at the same time?
Wow...thats quite impressive of him![]()