A few negative issues with President Trump

[elektra]

pathetic apologists

You're the type who would compare a kid stealing from a cookie jar, with a billionaire cheating on taxes in NYC

Former President Donald Trump's company is found guilty of criminal tax fraud

always with sad and pathetic attempts at some sort of equivalency.

Mr insult himself, demonstrates it is dainty that is a hypocrite and pig.

Your rant was piss poor, I pointed out you are much worst than Trump and you call that????

 

[Dante]

Mr insult himself, demonstrates it is dainty that is a hypocrite and pig.

Your rant was piss poor, I pointed out you are much worst than Trump and you call that????

Worse than TRump the
Teabagger



The Tea Party isn’t really a thing anymore, so this insult is sadly a bit of an endangered species. But it deserves mentioning as it’s referencing not just the vehicle by which tea leaves are steeped in hot water, but also the act of dipping one’s testicles onto another person’s face.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I support the J6 pardons even against ones who attacked police because videos have clearly shown police attacked first. I've seen numerous videos showing a peaceful demonstration and the cops suddenly launching flashbangs into the crowd.

You can't start a fight and then play innocent when you get your ass beat.

 

[AntonToo]

yet he voted for the man who campaigned on setting them free and next comes attempts at retribution.

the apologists like BackAgain should not be allowed to hide from condemnation. They desire an escape from the consequences of action.

Well not really because Trump didn't say he will pardon everyone:

Trump didn't specify how many of the rioters he would pardon, though he said last year that "I am inclined to pardon many of them. I can't say for every single one, because a couple of them, probably they got out of control."

Trump promises to 'free' Jan. 6 rioters on first day back in White House if reelected

Trump says one of his first acts if elected to a second term would be to "free" people convicted for their roles in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol

abcnews.go.com

Him now pardoning or commuting EVERYONE contradicts what he and his capaign were saying about "case by case" review.

Why did Trump pardon/commute all? Because they did it all for him. I doubt he feels guilt for feeding them lies about 2020 election that ultimately led them to jail. He just loves the flattery of such fierce personal loyalty above all principles.

 

[Moonglow]

Gas went up thirty cents today, Trump is failing.

 

[Moonglow]

I support the J6 pardons even against ones who attacked police because videos have clearly shown police attacked first. I've seen numerous videos showing a peaceful demonstration and the cops suddenly launching flashbangs into the crowd.

You can't start a fight and then play innocent when you get your ass beat.

What a load.

 

[Dante]

Well not really because Trump didn't say he will pardon everyone:

Trump didn't specify how many of the rioters he would pardon, though he said last year that "I am inclined to pardon many of them. I can't say for every single one, because a couple of them, probably they got out of control."

Him now pardoning or commuting EVERYONE contradicts what he and his capaign were saying about "case by case" review.

Why did Trump pardon/commute all? Because they did it for him.

...

 

[Dante]

Gas went up thirty cents today, Trump is failing.

nooooooooooooooooooooooo...

 

[Scoutster]

Trump Domination!

 

[toobfreak]

A. Too late on the J6 pardons. But, while I support most of those pardons, I disapprove of the pardons of any J6 defendant who committed any act of violence against anyone.

What if it were only in self defense? As it is, I think there were something like 7 or 14 J6ers which were not pardoned. But their sentence was commuted. Keep in mind that all these people have already spent four years in jail, something some murderers don't do. Many of them charged for simply being in the crowd, some not even walking into the building. I know one guy was there just as a legitimate journalist covering the event.

So pardons or not, these people spent four years in hell, their rights violated, their lives destroyed. So the pardon is far from a free ride.

B. Using an EO to attempt to ignite legal actions regarding the so-called “birthright” citizenship of the kids born here to illegal alien moms (or moms and dads) may be an effective way to get the ball rolling. But I’d prefer fewer EOs and much greater reliance on Congressional legislation.

Congress has the power to turn any EO into a bill made law of the land.

C. To undo the damage caused by ex-President Biden’s policies and EO’s, I do applaud President Trump’s use of so many EO’s. But, I see no reason in this modern high tech Information age why the full text of each of his EO’s can’t be posted at his WH web site within moments of his signing them.

Perhaps in time.

 

[Zincwarrior]

1. I was and I remain a Trump supporter.

2. Reasonable people can and do have differing views on some matters.

3. But that doesn’t give even a good man like Trump a totally free ride free from criticism. So, in that spirit, I think this thread can fairly list the things I want him to undo where he can:

A. Too late on the J6 pardons. But, while I support most of those pardons, I disapprove of the pardons of any J6 defendant who committed any act of violence against anyone.

B. Using an EO to attempt to ignite legal actions regarding the so-called “birthright” citizenship of the kids born here to illegal alien moms (or moms and dads) may be an effective way to get the ball rolling. But I’d prefer fewer EOs and much greater reliance on Congressional legislation.

C. To undo the damage caused by ex-President Biden’s policies and EO’s, I do applaud President Trump’s use of so many EO’s. But, I see no reason in this modern high tech Information age why the full text of each of his EO’s can’t be posted at his WH web site within moments of his signing them.

Careful you might get deported!

 

[elektra]

Worse than TRump the teabagger

As i said, dainty, you have no problem being slim and am a hypocrite accusing others of what you do

Just admit it, you have no problem with insulting men and women, you do it hourly

 

[Dante]

1. I was and I remain a Trump supporter.

2. Reasonable people can and do have differing views on some matters.

3. But that doesn’t give even a good man like Trump a totally free ride free from criticism. So, in that spirit, I think this thread can fairly list the things I want him to undo where he can:

A. Too late on the J6 pardons. But, while I support most of those pardons, I disapprove of the pardons of any J6 defendant who committed any act of violence against anyone.

B. Using an EO to attempt to ignite legal actions regarding the so-called “birthright” citizenship of the kids born here to illegal alien moms (or moms and dads) may be an effective way to get the ball rolling. But I’d prefer fewer EOs and much greater reliance on Congressional legislation.

C. To undo the damage caused by ex-President Biden’s policies and EO’s, I do applaud President Trump’s use of so many EO’s. But, I see no reason in this modern high tech Information age why the full text of each of his EO’s can’t be posted at his WH web site within moments of his signing them.

Former DC police officer fires back at Oath Keeper after he was released from prison

Michael Fanone, a former DC police officer who was attacked during the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol, joins CNN’s Pamela Brown to react to Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes’s comments about January 6th after President Trump commuted Rhodes’ prison sentence.

MSN

 

[BackAgain]

Me too


Mine is the only one that counts.


The one thing most, if not all, Conservatives do wrong is they let "The Perfect" become the enemy of "The Good". Trump is not perfect but he is good. Really good. Really, really, really good. Bigly Good. The only 'perfect' person I know is my Wife.



So what if there was a little violence? They didn't hurt anybody. Smashed a couple of windows and mad Nazi Pelousy piss herself. So what?


An EO is a temporary solution to a lasting problem. It was the right thing to do




I hate doing those listed type of responses. Sorry, but I thought it was the best way to respond to each point

I normally just se the “listed” type. Think it s clearer. A repl to each point .

 

[BackAgain]

I am definitely not a Trump supporter, but I have to say, I support most of those EOs he signed Monday.

My biggest kick out of the lot, was fking over seniors and Medicade people, letting big pharma raise the price on drugs back to Trump fist term levels, some of those life-saving drugs, they have to have, even if it means eating cat food, to afford the drugs, to benefit Big Pharma.

The EO doesn’t fuck over seniors and Medicaid recipients.

Your line is quite baseless.

 

[BackAgain]

Therein lies the Great Big Yuge Elephant in the room.

A good man like Trump, whose coarse words and vile attacks on women (Trump says his insulting remarks toward women were for ‘entertainment’). were him engaging in humor.

A good man like Trump, who in a court of law was proven to be a sexual predator, engaging in vile attacks on women (The jury found Trump had committed sexual abuse and forcible touching, two of the three elements of Carroll's battery claim.).

A good man whose felony convictions make him 'the first former US president convicted of felony crimes.'

Reasonable people can have differences ('Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle' (Jefferson, 1801) Inaugural Address). But we are speaking of principles here.

Therefore I reject your apologetic reasoning, your *jesuitism.

*jesuitism: (often lowercase) a principle or practice, as casuistry, equivocation, or craft, ascribed to the Jesuits by their opponents.

Another knee jerk thoughtless reply from one of the more shallow usual suspects.

The dainty is nowhere near making an valid point.

 

[Dante]

Another knee jerk thoughtless reply from one of the more shallow usual suspects.

The dainty is nowhere near making an valid point.

It's your...
Your inability to address the content...


Therein lies the Great Big Yuge Elephant in the room.

A good man like Trump, whose coarse words and vile attacks on women (Trump says his insulting remarks toward women were for ‘entertainment’). were him engaging in humor.

A good man like Trump, who in a court of law was proven to be a sexual predator, engaging in vile attacks on women (The jury found Trump had committed sexual abuse and forcible touching, two of the three elements of Carroll's battery claim.).

A good man whose felony convictions make him 'the first former US president convicted of felony crimes.'

Reasonable people can have differences ('Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle' (Jefferson, 1801) Inaugural Address). But we are speaking of principles here.

Therefore I reject your apologetic reasoning, your *jesuitism.

*jesuitism: (often lowercase) a principle or practice, as casuistry, equivocation, or craft, ascribed to the Jesuits by their opponents.

 

[Dante]

The EO doesn’t fuck over seniors and Medicaid recipients.

Your line is quite baseless.

Tell that to them come the midterms.

 

[BackAgain]

Can't escape being in favor of Trump with supporting this. He campaigned on it. Can't separate from it.

Mindless pap ^ from the dainty.

I am very much in favor or Trump. I have no reason to do otherwise.

That doesn’t mean I cannot suffer from him on some matters.

Try independent thinking someday l, the dainty. Hell, try thinking at all.

 

[BackAgain]

I just love how you clarified this.

Oh good. That’s a significant point.