A few negative issues with President Trump

[AzogtheDefiler]

I am definitely not a Trump supporter, but I have to say, I support most of those EOs he signed Monday.

My biggest kick out of the lot, was fking over seniors and Medicade people, letting big pharma raise the price on drugs back to Trump fist term levels, some of those life-saving drugs, they have to have, even if it means eating cat food, to afford the drugs, to benefit Big Pharma.

You voted for Harris!? OMG

 

[JohnDB]

The Dept of Ag oversees Farm Credit. A board that subsidizes loans to farming industry to keep the cost below market rates (our tax dollars) and has been completely corrupt since the Obama Administration.

This is THE reason eggs and beef are so expensive. Because the processing plants are built and located according to where Farm Credit says they are to be located...
And currently in some areas there are no eggs available due to a Bird Flu outbreak.....which would have just been a minor inconvenience if we had the small egg farmers we used to have...

 

[BackAgain]

No. After it was pointed out on hear, I looked it up on Whitehouse.gov and read it. He revoked the Biden EO that allowed the government to negotiate prices on drugs for Medicare or Medicade recipients, and there was no mention of authorizing his new department head to negotiate more.
Did you even know, there was a Whitehouse.gov where you could look it up?

Yeah. I had read that … somewhere.

Just to pin you down:

Regarding the Affirmarive Action order (revoking for 90 days) the Johnson EO of 1965 on the matter, here is the pertinent part of the TEXT of Trump’s EO:

(i) Executive Order 11246 of September 24, 1965 (Equal Employment Opportunity), is hereby revoked. For 90 days from the date of this order, Federal contractors may continue to comply with the regulatory scheme in effect on January 20, 2025.
(ii) The Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs within the Department of Labor shall immediately cease:
(A) Promoting “diversity”;
(B) Holding Federal contractors and subcontractors responsible for taking “affirmative action”; and
(C) Allowing or encouraging Federal contractors and subcontractors to engage in workforce balancing based on race, color, sex, sexual preference, religion, or national origin.

That’s one topic.

The other topic is what he did or didn’t do regarding Potato’s EO which “allowed” for the negotiations of drug prices.

Pick one.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

No. After it was pointed out on hear, I looked it up on Whitehouse.gov and read it. He revoked the Biden EO that allowed the government to negotiate prices on drugs for Medicare or Medicade recipients, and there was no mention of authorizing his new department head to negotiate more.
Did you even know, there was a Whitehouse.gov where you could look it up?

Biden already sabotaged Medicare Advantage last spring, and much of it doesn't even go into affect til now.

But of course the ever-collapsing legacy leftist media won't report this, and would have you believe otherwise.

Just like when they told you Kamala would win, and MAGA knew for a fact she wouldn't because we had access to better information.

Biden Sabotages Medicare Advantage​

Subtle funding changes to the popular and effective program are leading to higher deductibles and premiums.​

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-sabotages-medicare-advantage-spending-healthcare-premiums-1aeb9a96

 

[White 6]

Yeah. I had read that … somewhere.

Just to pin you down:

Regarding the Affirmarive Action order (revoking for 90 days) the Johnson EO of 1965 on the matter, here is the pertinent part of the TEXT of Trump’s EO:



That’s one topic.

The other topic is what he did or didn’t do regarding Potato’s EO which “allowed” for the negotiations of drug prices.

Pick one.

I was referring to the revocation of Biden's Execitive order, allowing government to negotiate prices on drugs covered under Medicare and Medicade.

That other one you mentioned is not my subject.

 

[White 6]

Biden already sabotaged Medicare Advantage last spring, and much of it doesn't even go into affect til now.

But of course the ever-collapsing legacy leftist media won't report this, and would have you believe otherwise.

Just like when they told you Kamala would win, and MAGA knew for a fact she wouldn't because we had access to better information.

Biden Sabotages Medicare Advantage​

Subtle funding changes to the popular and effective program are leading to higher deductibles and premiums.​

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-sabotages-medicare-advantage-spending-healthcare-premiums-1aeb9a96

I don't do a Medicare advantage plan, as my wife and I are covered regular regular Medicare and under Tricare For Life, as a military retiree.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I don't do a Medicare advantage plan, as my wife and I are covered regular regular Medicare and under Tricare For Life, as a military retiree.

So unless it affects you directly, it doesn't matter.

Got it.

 

[BackAgain]

I was referring to the revocation of Biden's Execitive order, allowing government to negotiate prices on drugs covered under Medicare and Medicade.

That other one you mentioned is not my subject.

Ok. Might be me with the crossed wires.

Anyway, revoking a prior President’s EO’s isn’t new. In fact, in that 2021 EO from Potato, he did some of that revocation stuff.

Sometimes the “ok” does get tossed out with the rubbish.

How was the Biden EO “ok?” Just one portion? Which portions? Why? How so?

 

[White 6]

So unless it affects you directly, it doesn't matter.

Got it.

I simply do not know anything about Medicare advantage plans, except I hate the commercials. I know gobs of retired military Officers, and Enlisted, but don't know a single one in a commercial Medicare advantage plan. I have no knowledge of what you say was done, and I do not go out looking for causes to study and support.

Did you get messed up? If so, that is unfortunate.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Did you get messed up? If so, that is unfortunate.

Haven't had a drink in 3 weeks.

Haven't quit either.

 

[White 6]

Ok. Might be me with the crossed wires.

Anyway, revoking a prior President’s EO’s isn’t new. In fact, in that 2021 EO from Potato, he did some of that revocation stuff.

Sometimes the “ok” does get tossed out with the rubbish.

How was the Biden EO “ok?” Just one portion? Which portions? Why? How so?

He definitely did revoke some. Just look at what he did to the border on his day one, as I have written about on here before.

As I said, I have no problem with the majority of Trump's EO, so far. But, when I do, I get to say so. It is good not to owe any party allegiance.

 

[BackAgain]

He definitely did revoke some. Just look at what he did to the border on his day one, as I have written about on here before.

As I said, I have no problem with the majority of Trump's EO, so far. But, when I do, I get to say so. It is good not to owe any party allegiance.

I hope it’s not news to you that you always have had that right. We all do. So, I am not sure what your point is.

How has the Biden EO re Medicare negotiating with drug companies over pricing working-out? Name a drug (other than “insulin”) which Biden’s “policy” has done diddly dick foe.

His fucking EO wasn’t yet anywhere near an effective date of the “negotiation” part. (2026.)

For the first time, the law provides Medicare the ability to directly negotiate the prices of certain high expenditure, single source drugs without generic or biosimilar competition. The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) selected ten drugs covered under Medicare Part D for the first cycle of negotiations for initial price applicability year 2026 and engaged in voluntary negotiations with the drug companies for the selected drugs

Medicare Drug Price Negotiation Program: Negotiated Prices for Initial Price Applicability Year 2026 | CMS

In August 2022, President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (P.L. 117-169) into law. The law makes improvements to Medicare by expanding benefits, lowering drug costs, and improving the sustainability of the Medicare program for generations to come. The law provides meaningful...

www.cms.gov

Fuckin’ Biden con job.

 

[g5000]

1. I was and I remain a Trump supporter.

2. Reasonable people can and do have differing views on some matters.

3. But that doesn’t give even a good man like Trump

There is nothing good about Trump.

A. Too late on the J6 pardons. But, while I support most of those pardons, I disapprove of the pardons of any J6 defendant who committed any act of violence against anyone.

Yep. It was a huge mistake to pardon the terrorists who assaulted and wounded police officers.

Huge mistake.

So much for "Blue Lives Matter".

B. Using an EO to attempt to ignite legal actions regarding the so-called “birthright” citizenship of the kids born here to illegal alien moms (or moms and dads) may be an effective way to get the ball rolling. But I’d prefer fewer EOs and much greater reliance on Congressional legislation.

Not even Congressional legislation can void the 14th Amendment.

C. To undo the damage caused by ex-President Biden’s policies and EO’s, I do applaud President Trump’s use of so many EO’s. But, I see no reason in this modern high tech Information age why the full text of each of his EO’s can’t be posted at his WH web site within moments of his signing them.

Trump whined and whined about the use of EOs by Obama, and so did every Trump-follower on this board.

Trump is dead set on achieving a new record in abusing executive power. He's a Mussolini wannabe.

How DO they stand the stench of their own hypocrisy?

 

[SweetSue92]

NOOOO

1. I was and I remain a Trump supporter.

2. Reasonable people can and do have differing views on some matters.

3. But that doesn’t give even a good man like Trump a totally free ride free from criticism. So, in that spirit, I think this thread can fairly list the things I want him to undo where he can:

A. Too late on the J6 pardons. But, while I support most of those pardons, I disapprove of the pardons of any J6 defendant who committed any act of violence against anyone.

B. Using an EO to attempt to ignite legal actions regarding the so-called “birthright” citizenship of the kids born here to illegal alien moms (or moms and dads) may be an effective way to get the ball rolling. But I’d prefer fewer EOs and much greater reliance on Congressional legislation.

C. To undo the damage caused by ex-President Biden’s policies and EO’s, I do applaud President Trump’s use of so many EO’s. But, I see no reason in this modern high tech Information age why the full text of each of his EO’s can’t be posted at his WH web site within moments of his signing them.

NOOOO no no. We're in a cult. We can't disagree with anything he does. Right, Mac1958

 

[White 6]

I hope it’s not news to you that you always have had that right. We all do. So, m not sure what your point is.

Has the Biden EO re Medicare negotiating with drug companies over pricing working for many drugs?

His fucking EO wasn’t yet wvennnear an effective date of the nwgotiarion part. (2026.)

Medicare Drug Price Negotiation Program: Negotiated Prices for Initial Price Applicability Year 2026 | CMS

In August 2022, President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (P.L. 117-169) into law. The law makes improvements to Medicare by expanding benefits, lowering drug costs, and improving the sustainability of the Medicare program for generations to come. The law provides meaningful...

www.cms.gov

Fuckin’ Biden con job.

Only the trumpers are committed to supporting his every word and deed.
Tell it to the diabetics on Medicare that were on insulin, before Biden.

 

[BackAgain]

Not even Congressional legislation can void the 14th Amendment.

lol. You libtards are all alike.

This doesn’t “void” the 14th Amendment. Nor does it seek to.

It is but one way to get the QUESTION before the SCOTUS. And the question is:

“Should the Court sustain the President’s interpretation of the purpose and intent of the 14rh Amendment as not demanding ‘birthright’ citizenship?”

 

[BackAgain]

Only the trumpers are committed to supporting his every word and deed.

Your claim isnot just trite and false, but also of zero significance in supporting your position.

Tell it to the diabetics on Medicare that were on insulin, before Biden.

So, is that a concession that other than insulin (a condition which you seem to ignore), you can’t mention even one drug where Potato’s EO accomplished diddly dick?

Don’t fret. It’s impossible. And even the insulin thing was a mere stage prop. It’s the one “example” the drug companies allowed Potaro a win on. And the EO didn’t even accomplish that much. The one off drug examples was voluntary. See, again, the EO I wasn’t even to be in effect for another year or more.

 

[g5000]

lol. You libtards are all alike.

This doesn’t “void” the 14th Amendment. Nor does it seek to.

It is but one way to get the QUESTION before the SCOTUS. And the question is:

“Should the Court sustain the President’s interpretation of the purpose and intent of the 14rh AmOf endment as not demanding ‘birthright’ citizenship?”

Of course it doesn't void it. Trump is putting on theater for you rubes.

He knows it won't pass muster in the courts. The Supremes will vote 9--0 against him.

But it isn't about that. It's about making sure you cultists continue to eat the corn out of his shit.

 

[BackAgain]

Of course it doesn't void it. Trump is putting on theater for you rubes.

Said the actual rube.

He knows it won't pass muster in the courts. The Supremes will vote 9--0 against him.

No. I don’t “know” that. Neither do you.

In fact, goober, I suspect that you’re just wrong yet again.

Your shallow-mindedness, your anwvwre TDS and your disregard for rationality amuse me.

 

[White 6]

Your claim isnot just trite and false, but also of zero significance in supporting your position.


So, is that a concession that other than insulin (a condition which you seem to ignore), you can’t mention even one drug where Potato’s EO accomplished diddly dick?

Don’t fret. It’s impossible. And even the insulin thing was a mere stage prop. It’s the one “example” the drug companies allowed Potaro a win on. And the EO didn’t even accomplish that much. The one off drug examples was voluntary. See, again, the EO I wasn’t even to be in effect for another year or more.

I'm not doing a laundry list of drugs and research for you. Do your own.