pknopp
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There's a difference between killing and murdering.A country that kills can't expect it's citizens to be any better.
Sure but we are discussing murdering.
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There's a difference between killing and murdering.A country that kills can't expect it's citizens to be any better.
Execution as a punishment for committing murder is not murder.There's a difference between killing and murdering.A country that kills can't expect it's citizens to be any better.
Sure but we are discussing murdering.
Execution as a punishment for committing murder is not murder.There's a difference between killing and murdering.A country that kills can't expect it's citizens to be any better.
Sure but we are discussing murdering.
I apologize; I must have missed the post where someone bombed a hospital.Execution as a punishment for committing murder is not murder.There's a difference between killing and murdering.A country that kills can't expect it's citizens to be any better.
Sure but we are discussing murdering.
Bombing a hospital is though.
I wouldSo you would force a woman who was impregnated by a rape to carry the child to term?
This is why I advocate police shooting criminals-----------and the criminal not living once arrestedThe Boston PD and Federal Agents should have smoked this motherfucker when they pulled him outta that boat seven years ago.
That would have been True Justice.
Now the Federal Legal (not Justice) system negates his Just punishment so we can ALL pay to keep this sack of shit in solitary confinement for the next sixty years. What’s next, reduction of his sentence? parole? Why not just let the turd go, so the public can provide JUSTICE to him.
I wouldSo you would force a woman who was impregnated by a rape to carry the child to term?
the child has committed no wrong
But you would not execute the rapist for his crime, but instead execute the innocent child
are you describing the typical woman who has an abortion?I wouldSo you would force a woman who was impregnated by a rape to carry the child to term?
the child has committed no wrong
But you would not execute the rapist for his crime, but instead execute the innocent child
And what if the mother smoked, and drank, and in general, did everything possible to have the child either severely disabled or even stillborn? Would you charge the mother for that? Murder through negligence perhaps?
Nah let him out now, I will even sponsor him..............................Court overturns Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence
A federal appeals court Friday threw out Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s death sentence in the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, saying the judge who oversaw the case did not adequately screen jurors for potential biases.apnews.com
Muslim privilege, folks!
A country that kills can't expect it's citizens to be any better.
are you describing the typical woman who has an abortion?I wouldSo you would force a woman who was impregnated by a rape to carry the child to term?
the child has committed no wrong
But you would not execute the rapist for his crime, but instead execute the innocent child
And what if the mother smoked, and drank, and in general, did everything possible to have the child either severely disabled or even stillborn? Would you charge the mother for that? Murder through negligence perhaps?
are you asking if it is a criminal offense that she can be punished for?are you describing the typical woman who has an abortion?I wouldSo you would force a woman who was impregnated by a rape to carry the child to term?
the child has committed no wrong
But you would not execute the rapist for his crime, but instead execute the innocent child
And what if the mother smoked, and drank, and in general, did everything possible to have the child either severely disabled or even stillborn? Would you charge the mother for that? Murder through negligence perhaps?
No. I am asking a question. If a Woman does things known to cause harm to the fetus in her body, or fails to follow the Doctors instructions, has she also committed a crime in your wild world view?
are you asking if it is a criminal offense that she can be punished for?are you describing the typical woman who has an abortion?I wouldSo you would force a woman who was impregnated by a rape to carry the child to term?
the child has committed no wrong
But you would not execute the rapist for his crime, but instead execute the innocent child
And what if the mother smoked, and drank, and in general, did everything possible to have the child either severely disabled or even stillborn? Would you charge the mother for that? Murder through negligence perhaps?
No. I am asking a question. If a Woman does things known to cause harm to the fetus in her body, or fails to follow the Doctors instructions, has she also committed a crime in your wild world view?
I dont know what the law is in every jurisdiction
but its certainly worth considering
This is why I advocate police shooting criminals-----------and the criminal not living once arrestedThe Boston PD and Federal Agents should have smoked this motherfucker when they pulled him outta that boat seven years ago.
That would have been True Justice.
Now the Federal Legal (not Justice) system negates his Just punishment so we can ALL pay to keep this sack of shit in solitary confinement for the next sixty years. What’s next, reduction of his sentence? parole? Why not just let the turd go, so the public can provide JUSTICE to him.
So death penalty for Shoplifters? That's barbaric even by Muslim standards. You have managed to out do even those who's social and legal system is stuck in the Seventh Century. You must be proud. Or something.
Can you say the Boston Marathon Bombing was a False Flag Event?
So death penalty for Shoplifters? That's barbaric even by Muslim standards. You have managed to out do even those who's social and legal system is stuck in the Seventh Century. You must be proud. Or something.
No. Life w/o parole for shoplifting (and all other non-violence/morality based crimes). All felonies and violence/morality based misdemeanors would be a death sentence. A single appeal would be allowed, but as a Justice-based system rather than a Bureaucracy-based Legsl system, far fewer appeals would be accepted.
What is funny about the folks like you is this. You never want to hold those responsible for the false arrests, and convictions really responsible. No appeals. When the cops in Baltimore were caught planting drugs on their own body cameras, hundreds of cases became untenable. Appeals were filed within days, and essentially all of those people who were convicted based upon the testimony of those cops were let out of prison. Why? The cops were shown to be corrupt. There was no way that any Jury would believe that the first time, the very first time any of them planted evidence was on that day.
Thousands of cases, tens of thousands of cases were tainted. No appeals under your idealistic system. Why not have a reasonable way to hold those corrupt cops accountable. If an innocent man is sent to prison, they are sent to prison for the same sentence he got. If an innocent is put to death, then they are put to death.
Cops lie everyday to get evidence admitted to the courts. We know the FBI lies regularly. We know that from the Inspector General Report on FISA warrant applications. In every single application, there were problems. Evidence that was listed, but not in existence.
For your system to work, you could not afford one corrupt cop. Not one. Because the system would collapse when it became evident that the cops are the biggest liars in the courtroom.
But let's pretend your system is in effect. Let's pretend that the cops are the pinnacle of honor and trustworthiness. Let's pretend that they would rather die than utter one untrue thing to the court. How the hell do you get them out on the streets? When every crime is essentially a death penalty case, why not kill the cops? You get into a bar fight and smash a bottle over a guys head. Assault with a deadly weapon. You might as well kill cops, you're going to be put to death anyway.
It is idiots like you that demanded the Feds get rid of the Parole option. So what do the guards have to encourage good behavior now? No rewards are possible. The only things left is solitary confinement, and transferring the prisoner thousands of miles from his family. He can't get out of Prison for good behavior. He can't get out for anything but time served. So why behave? It is why Lifers are such dangerous prisoners. You can't do anything to them. They are in for life, and nothing anyone can do will change that.
But your system, well that makes it real. Everyone might as well kill a cop. They have nothing to lose. When arrested, they'll be convicted, and when convicted, they'll be put to death. What do they have to lose? How long do you think it will take them to figure that out? I'm betting a couple days, do you want the over, or under?
Thank God idiots like you are not the ones in charge of the Justice System. If you were, there wouldn't be a cop left in the Country. Those who survived, would quit because every single 911 call is a death sentence for the boys in blue.
What is funny about the folks like you is this. You never want to hold those responsible for the false arrests, and convictions really responsible. No appeals. When the cops in Baltimore were caught planting drugs on their own body cameras, hundreds of cases became untenable. Appeals were filed within days, and essentially all of those people who were convicted based upon the testimony of those cops were let out of prison. Why? The cops were shown to be corrupt. There was no way that any Jury would believe that the first time, the very first time any of them planted evidence was on that day.
Thousands of cases, tens of thousands of cases were tainted. No appeals under your idealistic system. Why not have a reasonable way to hold those corrupt cops accountable. If an innocent man is sent to prison, they are sent to prison for the same sentence he got. If an innocent is put to death, then they are put to death.
Cops lie everyday to get evidence admitted to the courts. We know the FBI lies regularly. We know that from the Inspector General Report on FISA warrant applications. In every single application, there were problems. Evidence that was listed, but not in existence.
For your system to work, you could not afford one corrupt cop. Not one. Because the system would collapse when it became evident that the cops are the biggest liars in the courtroom.
But let's pretend your system is in effect. Let's pretend that the cops are the pinnacle of honor and trustworthiness. Let's pretend that they would rather die than utter one untrue thing to the court. How the hell do you get them out on the streets? When every crime is essentially a death penalty case, why not kill the cops? You get into a bar fight and smash a bottle over a guys head. Assault with a deadly weapon. You might as well kill cops, you're going to be put to death anyway.
It is idiots like you that demanded the Feds get rid of the Parole option. So what do the guards have to encourage good behavior now? No rewards are possible. The only things left is solitary confinement, and transferring the prisoner thousands of miles from his family. He can't get out of Prison for good behavior. He can't get out for anything but time served. So why behave? It is why Lifers are such dangerous prisoners. You can't do anything to them. They are in for life, and nothing anyone can do will change that.
But your system, well that makes it real. Everyone might as well kill a cop. They have nothing to lose. When arrested, they'll be convicted, and when convicted, they'll be put to death. What do they have to lose? How long do you think it will take them to figure that out? I'm betting a couple days, do you want the over, or under?
Thank God idiots like you are not the ones in charge of the Justice System. If you were, there wouldn't be a cop left in the Country. Those who survived, would quit because every single 911 call is a death sentence for the boys in blue.
First of all, let’s make this clear... there are NO innocent people over age 3 on this planet. Not you. Not me. Nobody. We ALL deserve to lose our lives for our Immoral thoughts, words and deeds. So police corruption is not even a minimal concern for me.
The purpose of this system is to impose JUSTICE, not Legality or Bureaucracy. The idea is to get people to leave the country if they can’t or won’t accept our Society and our Laws; or to pay the ultimate price for not doing so.
If that means replacing the Police with the Military, so be it. Can’t get that neighborhood to comply... NAPALM. Survivors?... there weren’t any.