A Different Type of Secession is Already Happening in USA

It hasn't been "debunked" at all. Red states receive the vast majority of federal subsidies and benefits, because no one wants to live in those states.


Debunked.

Against a national average of $1,935 in intergovernmental spending per American, red states receive just $1,879. Blue states get considerably more, at $2,124 per resident.

 
It hasn't been "debunked" at all. Red states receive the vast majority of federal subsidies and benefits, because no one wants to live in those states.


Debunked.

Against a national average of $1,935 in intergovernmental spending per American, red states receive just $1,879. Blue states get considerably more, at $2,124 per resident.


From YOUR ARTICLE:

Democrats are correct on this fact. The blue states did pay more per capita in federal taxes than the red did. The $12,648 per capita taxation there is 118 percent of the national average. The purple states fell in between the two, slightly below the national average.

Since blue state residents pay more taxes per capita, they should get more back. Duh.

And you Republicans are the ones who supposedly hate taxes so much, remember? Therefore, your red states should be taking a lot less from the Federal government. Talk about hypocritcal.
 
If Chicago did not exist, wouldn't Illinois be better off? Detroit is killing Michigan. To think the poorly run cities are anything but a drain on their states is laughable.

Yes, all of those jobs in Hicksville, IL and Bumblefuck, MI will generate enough tax revenue for IL and MI.

Holy Shit.
 
The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.

From Ballotpedia

Mississippi 34th per state in budget deficit.

Alabama 28th per state in budget deficit

California 1st per state in budget deficit. $ 152 BILLION deficit and growing.

New York 2nd per state in budget deficit. $131 BILLION deficit and growing.

California and New York have massive state budget deficits!

You that ignorant?
 
The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.

From Ballotpedia

Mississippi 34th per state in budget deficit.

Alabama 28th per state in budget deficit

California 1st per state in budget deficit. $ 152 BILLION deficit and growing.

New York 2nd per state in budget deficit. $131 BILLION deficit and growing.

California and New York have massive state budget deficits!

You that ignorant?

Totally different issue, but you're not smart enough to understand that.

Yeah, MI and AL have smaller budget deficits. No one wants to live there, so they don't spend nearly as much money as CA and NY on government services. That's just common sense.
 
It hasn't been "debunked" at all. Red states receive the vast majority of federal subsidies and benefits, because no one wants to live in those states.

Oh look, A Nazi spewing a lie that was debunked 30 years ago.

No Herr Himmler, military bases in Alabama are in fact NOT "welfare" to "red" states.

Yellowstone park is not welfare either.

You know what IS welfare? SALT - when President Trump cut off the Welfare to greedy fucks in New York and California, y'all Nazis melted the fuck down.

"What do you mean state taxes can't be deducted? How will Idaho pay for gender reassignment in California? NO FAIR!!!"

SALT is not welfare. It wasw a way to raise taxes on red states so more money could be shipped to blue states. Idaho soes not pay for anything in California. Even Mark Levin has debunked that argument.


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The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.
How will you achieve that?

Get rid of the new deal?

Get rid of progressive income tax ?



Please tell us I am interested.
 
Please don't post thread titles in ALL CAPS. You've been here forever and should know better by now.


Sorry, Didn't realize it.... when I posted....

Meanwhile, Plantation Sanctuary Blue States suck those within dry with higher taxes, lower services, decaying infrastructure, less safety and higher crime rates.

No worries. We all make mistakes. :)
 
The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.

What percentage of the non-productive folks in the red states are Democrats? I will let you think on that a bit.
 
It hasn't been "debunked" at all. Red states receive the vast majority of federal subsidies and benefits, because no one wants to live in those states.


Debunked.

Against a national average of $1,935 in intergovernmental spending per American, red states receive just $1,879. Blue states get considerably more, at $2,124 per resident.


From YOUR ARTICLE:

Democrats are correct on this fact. The blue states did pay more per capita in federal taxes than the red did. The $12,648 per capita taxation there is 118 percent of the national average. The purple states fell in between the two, slightly below the national average.

Since blue state residents pay more taxes per capita, they should get more back. Duh.

And you Republicans are the ones who supposedly hate taxes so much, remember? Therefore, your red states should be taking a lot less from the Federal government. Talk about hypocritcal.

Salaries are higher in blue states with big cities, thus more income tax revenue. The standard of living however for the even a similar wage in red states is significantly higher.
 
The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.

From Ballotpedia

Mississippi 34th per state in budget deficit.

Alabama 28th per state in budget deficit

California 1st per state in budget deficit. $ 152 BILLION deficit and growing.

New York 2nd per state in budget deficit. $131 BILLION deficit and growing.

California and New York have massive state budget deficits!

You that ignorant?

Totally different issue, but you're not smart enough to understand that.

Yeah, MI and AL have smaller budget deficits. No one wants to live there, so they don't spend nearly as much money as CA and NY on government services. That's just common sense.

I live in a red state and blue state folks are flocking here. I can’t say I blame them, the word has gotten out, but many still can’t get just WHY they left their blue state. They can’t figure out that it is the Democrats they vote for that implemented the policies which they are trying to escape. It is kind of mind-boggling, but that is what indoctration does to people...they lose the ability to objectively reason.
 
We can form several nations !!
Even give blacks their own nation
Maybe a second Jewish nation in parts of NY
It’s endless

Seriously.

Many sincere people continue to believe that a multicultural nation can be successful.

The last 400 years, I believe, show that (sadly) that it cannot.

Yet a lot of people continue to beat a dead horse. They keep repeating (with less confidence?): Yes, it CAN be successful.

So some kind of peaceful secession is inevitable. Of course, I do not know what that will consist of.

Secession from the cities actually began in the 1950s. There were many reasons, including the construction of nice affordable houses in the suburbs. There was also an unpleasant reason that need not be repeated here, for everyone is well aware of it.
 
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE STATS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING INTO! INNER CITY Blue controlled inner cities. HAAAA HAAAA!!!!
 
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The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.


Lie. That has been debunked. As an example, they count Social Security benefits in Florida as subsidization. BS. Plus military bases, which of course are of national import.

BTW NY has been losing population for at least 6 decades and CA is now suffering the same fate. But I love how you crap all over the citizens of MS and Al, typical douche lefty that you are.

It hasn't been "debunked" at all. Red states receive the vast majority of federal subsidies and benefits, because no one wants to live in those states.
California ithe QUEEN of the welfare states hun..no one receives more welfare than they.

Secondly, FEDERAL spending for states when the libs get involve is a play with numbers game---they include the spending for the MILITARY bases which tend to be in the warmer southern states but aren't what people would expect in the statistics.
 
A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SECESSION IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN USA



By Jeff Crouere
The secession of 1860 will not happen again, but a different kind is already taking place
Lately there has been so much frustration with the last election and the direction of our country that some Trump supporters have been talking about “secession.” Many conservatives and libertarians are asking if it makes sense for certain states to leave the union the way South Carolina left in 1860, after the election of Abraham Lincoln as President of the United States.
Whether it makes “sense” or not, we can be assured that it will not happen. Although the South Carolina state legislature voted in November of 1860 to initiate the process of secession, no state legislature would do that today. This is because most modern state legislatures, even conservative ones, do not have many members who are angry enough at the federal government to support seceding from it.
Americans who live in rural and some suburban areas are executing a secession of their own
Who can forget what happened to Mark and Patricia McCloskey in St. Louis?
Urban areas have been failing Financialally for years

In large cities, politicians spend vast sums of money on enormous municipal government systems which include inefficient departments featuring payrolls that are too large and are too expensive. Other characteristics include broken infrastructure, rampant homelessness, and an overly generous municipal pension system.
How much longer will productive taxpayers living in rural and suburban communities agree to subsidize large cities? Sooner or later, these citizens will say “Enough is enough, we want out!” They will want the urban centers to form their own “United Cities of America,” with their own laws and lifestyles. Simultaneously, Americans living in non-urban areas will want to forge closer bonds of their own as similarities are recognized even more.
The secession of 1860 will not happen again, but a different kind is already taking place.

Comment:
We have seen this happening daily in the Blue Plantation Sanctuary cities and their surronding areas like New York, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, St, Louis, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle and Portland, while the people in rural and suburban areas pay the taxes to the state and get little in the way of safety and support from the City and State.
A balanced view must acknowledge that urban centers are the engines of finance and commerce, largely responsible for the nation's wealth, and evidencing it conspicuously.

Stark economic contrasts were blatant in Imperial Rome, and so it has always been.

Malcontents can demonize and abscond from urban centers and those who commute to them for their livelihoods refuse to do so, but forming a separate bucolic sovereignty was a pipe-dream of Jefferson's that was not practicable.

All have the option of personal cession from the United States by emigrating, whether their animus is directed at the urban, rural, or suburban.
 
California ithe QUEEN of the welfare states hun..no one receives more welfare than they.

Secondly, FEDERAL spending for states when the libs get involve is a play with numbers game---they include the spending for the MILITARY bases which tend to be in the warmer southern states but aren't what people would expect in the statistics.
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The populated blue states already subsidize the unpopulated red states.

States like Mississippi and Alabama will become even more worthless if states like California and New York no longer support them and keep them afloat.

Texas also support many States, so it is just not Red and Blue but blooming idiots on all sides will make asinine comments like yours!
 
SALT is not welfare. It wasw a way to raise taxes on red states so more money could be shipped to blue states. Idaho soes not pay for anything in California. Even Mark Levin has debunked that argument.

The deduction of state and local taxes (SALT) from federal taxable income makes it so low tax (or now tax) states are picking up the tab for high tax states. California has the highest income tax in the nation. But until 2018 it didn't matter, because the tax would not be paid by residents, instead the taxes paid to California reduced taxes paid to the federal government. That way residents in Montana have the pleasure of paying for welfare schemes in Compton.

The Trump tax reform ended the massive welfare to blue states. When people in those states had to start paying their own taxes, they did the predictable, and left in droves.

But Xi's man promises to "bring welfare back bigger."
 
If Chicago did not exist, wouldn't Illinois be better off? Detroit is killing Michigan. To think the poorly run cities are anything but a drain on their states is laughable.

Yes, all of those jobs in Hicksville, IL and Bumblefuck, MI will generate enough tax revenue for IL and MI.

Holy Shit.
I believe you are confused. Yes, cities generate a lot of money, but Chicago for instance is so poorly run that they are deep in debt. Small town folks get to enjoy all that wonderful debt too. I'm not disagreeing on the money generated by say, Chicago, but if that poorly run city did not exist, people in the countryside would not be paying for its incompetence. Take a state like Iowa, they don't generate near the money, but they don't need too. They don't have any money pits they have to support. I have nothing against cities, but please don't tell me they are propping anybody up. You might want to work on your contempt for small town people, that is not attractive.
 
A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SECESSION IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN USA



By Jeff Crouere
The secession of 1860 will not happen again, but a different kind is already taking place
Lately there has been so much frustration with the last election and the direction of our country that some Trump supporters have been talking about “secession.” Many conservatives and libertarians are asking if it makes sense for certain states to leave the union the way South Carolina left in 1860, after the election of Abraham Lincoln as President of the United States.
Whether it makes “sense” or not, we can be assured that it will not happen. Although the South Carolina state legislature voted in November of 1860 to initiate the process of secession, no state legislature would do that today. This is because most modern state legislatures, even conservative ones, do not have many members who are angry enough at the federal government to support seceding from it.
Americans who live in rural and some suburban areas are executing a secession of their own
Who can forget what happened to Mark and Patricia McCloskey in St. Louis?
Urban areas have been failing Financialally for years

In large cities, politicians spend vast sums of money on enormous municipal government systems which include inefficient departments featuring payrolls that are too large and are too expensive. Other characteristics include broken infrastructure, rampant homelessness, and an overly generous municipal pension system.
How much longer will productive taxpayers living in rural and suburban communities agree to subsidize large cities? Sooner or later, these citizens will say “Enough is enough, we want out!” They will want the urban centers to form their own “United Cities of America,” with their own laws and lifestyles. Simultaneously, Americans living in non-urban areas will want to forge closer bonds of their own as similarities are recognized even more.
The secession of 1860 will not happen again, but a different kind is already taking place.

Comment:
We have seen this happening daily in the Blue Plantation Sanctuary cities and their surronding areas like New York, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, St, Louis, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle and Portland, while the people in rural and suburban areas pay the taxes to the state and get little in the way of safety and support from the City and State.
Premise is totally backwards. High density population in cities generates more taxes than rural communities. Cities are also where the tax paying businesses are and where wealthy folks choose to live.

Urban supports rural, not the other way around.
 

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