A Child Can't Call 2 Women or 2 Men "Mom & Dad"

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

As a Conservative I teach my children that HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong. YOU twist it to call it hate of the person.

If your children did something wrong, did you hate them or did you just dislike what they did?

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

Which does nothing to refute what I said. I won't waste half a second trying to appease implacable Leftists.

 

[sealybobo]

The god of good and knowledge.

Lemme guess... government?

Dont forget science.

Just as long as we make our decisions based on logic and reason. Unless you want to use the Koran? I'll approve of that being our law. Or were you hoping we'd go with your religion? Why would you assume? Are you born again Mormon jehova catholic or lutheran protestant baptist Greek orthodox Presbyterian or Jew?

Only 1 of us is right.

OR we're all wrong???

 

[sealybobo]

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

And no ones joining a cult with your message. But as an athiest I love your honesty. Fastest growing population in america is athiests. And while Muslims are breedind I dont see their grandkids being devout in 2 generations. Church memberships going down. There use to be 20 now 10 churches. One day maybe only 1

The god of good and knowledge.

Yes, I'm sure you jack off listening to John Lennon's "Imagine". I'm sure you look forward to the day you're in charge again so you can resume killing millions of people to show how fucked up religion is.

This planet is overpopulated with humans. We need planned parenthood for anyone who doesnt want a child. You guys seem to like it that the poor keep breeding workers and consumers. IUD should be 100% free for any woman that doesnt want a child. Simply take it out when you want to have kids and its 98% effective over 10 years. Condoms and pills can't say that.

Abortion shouldn't be so common. Cover IUD in obamacare. If not you are causing abortions when people who can't have kids get knocked up.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

And no ones joining a cult with your message. But as an athiest I love your honesty. Fastest growing population in america is athiests. And while Muslims are breedind I dont see their grandkids being devout in 2 generations. Church memberships going down. There use to be 20 now 10 churches. One day maybe only 1

The god of good and knowledge.

Yes, I'm sure you jack off listening to John Lennon's "Imagine". I'm sure you look forward to the day you're in charge again so you can resume killing millions of people to show how fucked up religion is.

This planet is overpopulated with humans. We need planned parenthood for anyone who doesnt want a child. You guys seem to like it that the poor keep breeding workers and consumers. IUD should be 100% free for any woman that doesnt want a child. Simply take it out when you want to have kids and its 98% effective over 10 years. Condoms and pills can't say that.

Abortion shouldn't be so common. Cover IUD in obamacare. If not you are causing abortions when people who can't have kids get knocked up.

If you really believe the planet is over populated, you would lead by example. Please roll out some plastic so after you off yourself the rest of us can roll you up in the plastic and throw you in the dumpster. I wish more suicides understood this simple courtesy.

 

[Montrovant]

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

Which does nothing to refute what I said. I won't waste half a second trying to appease implacable Leftists.

Did I, at any point, ask you to?

 

[sealybobo]

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

And no ones joining a cult with your message. But as an athiest I love your honesty. Fastest growing population in america is athiests. And while Muslims are breedind I dont see their grandkids being devout in 2 generations. Church memberships going down. There use to be 20 now 10 churches. One day maybe only 1

The god of good and knowledge.

Yes, I'm sure you jack off listening to John Lennon's "Imagine". I'm sure you look forward to the day you're in charge again so you can resume killing millions of people to show how fucked up religion is.

This planet is overpopulated with humans. We need planned parenthood for anyone who doesnt want a child. You guys seem to like it that the poor keep breeding workers and consumers. IUD should be 100% free for any woman that doesnt want a child. Simply take it out when you want to have kids and its 98% effective over 10 years. Condoms and pills can't say that.

Abortion shouldn't be so common. Cover IUD in obamacare. If not you are causing abortions when people who can't have kids get knocked up.

If you really believe the planet is over populated, you would lead by example. Please roll out some plastic so after you off yourself the rest of us can roll you up in the plastic and throw you in the dumpster. I wish more suicides understood this simple courtesy.

Or I can not have kids. My brother has 2 boys my name genes and last name will all continue and I didn't have to do more than play with them and buy them Xmas and bday gifts. I have many friends who all dont have kids and were in our 40s. I dont want to have kids. I'm too selfish. Its all about me I'll be honest.

I dont know why you would go right to suggesting suicide. Let me guess you're a good christian?

 

[sealybobo]

I live on a lake have hunting property and I should retire at 62 god willing.

 

[Conservative65]

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

And no ones joining a cult with your message. But as an athiest I love your honesty. Fastest growing population in america is athiests. And while Muslims are breedind I dont see their grandkids being devout in 2 generations. Church memberships going down. There use to be 20 now 10 churches. One day maybe only 1

The god of good and knowledge.

Yes, I'm sure you jack off listening to John Lennon's "Imagine". I'm sure you look forward to the day you're in charge again so you can resume killing millions of people to show how fucked up religion is.

This planet is overpopulated with humans. We need planned parenthood for anyone who doesnt want a child. You guys seem to like it that the poor keep breeding workers and consumers. IUD should be 100% free for any woman that doesnt want a child. Simply take it out when you want to have kids and its 98% effective over 10 years. Condoms and pills can't say that.

Abortion shouldn't be so common. Cover IUD in obamacare. If not you are causing abortions when people who can't have kids get knocked up.

I wish the poor would quit breeding. It's more for the rest of us to be forced to feed.

As for free contraception, I'll repeat what I've said to others when it comes to what a woman does with her body. If she chooses to do something with it, don't care what it is as long as she pays for it. It's not anyone's place to fund anything related to a choice she makes with her body especially when she says no one else has a say in what it is. I'm willing to give her then choice. She should return the favor and pay for it herself.

How can someone who is told that the choice of what a woman does with her body be blamed when she makes a choice. Typical blame someone else mentality of the left. I wish those on the left would have more abortions and get their stupidity out of the gene pool.

 

[Conservative65]

As a Conservative I teach my children that HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong. YOU twist it to call it hate of the person.

If your children did something wrong, did you hate them or did you just dislike what they did?

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

How do you know what I am opposed to and not opposed to when it comes to other types of sin? You say you aren't on the left but you sure sound like one of them that thinks they can read minds.

It can sound however you want it to sound. Again, if you ASSume it means something because you don't like the way it's expressed, you're quacking like a duck. Don't be surprised if people think you are.

 

[Conservative65]

As a Conservative I teach my children that HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong. YOU twist it to call it hate of the person.

If your children did something wrong, did you hate them or did you just dislike what they did?

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

And no ones joining a cult with your message. But as an athiest I love your honesty. Fastest growing population in america is athiests. And while Muslims are breedind I dont see their grandkids being devout in 2 generations. Church memberships going down. There use to be 20 now 10 churches. One day maybe only 1

The god of good and knowledge.

Fasting growing group in hell is atheists, too. While I know you don't believe there is one. That's OK. Like anything else, it's not a requirement for it to be true.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

Which does nothing to refute what I said. I won't waste half a second trying to appease implacable Leftists.

Did I, at any point, ask you to?

You asked Conservative65 to.

 

[Conservative65]

Democrats desire to teach Homosexuality to children and nobody will stop them, not even the law.

Conservatives desire to teach hatred of homosexuals to children- and luckily we have been largely successful at stopping them.

As a Conservative I teach my children that HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong. YOU twist it to call it hate of the person.

If your children did something wrong, did you hate them or did you just dislike what they did?

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You are incorrectly making an implication. The receiver is the one that implies what he/she thinks the sender is saying. The sender can only say it.

The problem is you think I should change the words I use based on how others feel about them. Since I don't work for them, what they think doesn't matter. No one has a right not to be offended and if they get offended by the words I use, it's their problem. I don't have to please them and that's what you seem to be asking me to do.

 

[Conservative65]

So did most Christians throughout the history of your faith. The founders actually quoted passages from Leviticus word for word. And killed any gay they found. As did every other State in the Union. With their justification being religious.

The puritians did the same thing. They just killed the adulterers too.

Did they get Christianity wrong? Were they not supposed to mention the OT? If so, why did the overwhelming history of your faith not get the memo until the last dozen decades or so? I mean, either its not as easy as you claim.......or the Christians throughout the majority of the history of your faith weren't 'true believers'.

Either that or God changed his mind. And around the 1800s or so decided that we should stop killing gays. Is that what happened?

You're being intentionally vague and evasive.....like there's something about your beliefs that you're ashamed of or are trying to hide. Just be honest. What should we be doing to the 'faggots' and the 'n*ggers' as you call them?

I'm still waiting on verses from the NT that say God tells us to kill faggots. You've been asked more than once and failed every time.

God doesn't change his mind. People like you misuse his word. His worded warned us about people like and and is clear about what will happen to you because you did.

No, you're still evading. For nearly 2 millennium Christians killed gays in God's name, quoting the OT. Now you dismiss mention of the OT and demand passages from the NT.

Did virtually the entire history of your faith get it wrong? Or did you? Are gays supposed to be executed as commanded in Leviticus and carried out by Christians for centuries? Or did they horribly misinterpret the Bible, using it to justify horrendous acts of evil, cruelty and sin?

Pick one. Because your evasions only demonstrate that you've got something to hide about your faith. And there are topics related to homosexuality and Christianity that you do NOT want to discuss.

So you can't provide them. Go **** yourself until you can. I bet that's the only way you'll ever get some if you can call ******* yourself as getting some.

Ah, the conservative Christian perspective of the 'True Believer'. Run from the horrendous theological holes in your faith and their treatment of gays, and tell anyone who dares to question you to 'go **** themselves'.

But its Morovant that makes Christianity look like something that folks don't want?

Laughing...really?

The anti gay thing really helped me realize religions are all man made.

I can't believe gays believe christians who tell them they are flawed. I'd be like **** you and your religion.

If a ****** ever made that offer to me

So did most Christians throughout the history of your faith. The founders actually quoted passages from Leviticus word for word. And killed any gay they found. As did every other State in the Union. With their justification being religious.

The puritians did the same thing. They just killed the adulterers too.

Did they get Christianity wrong? Were they not supposed to mention the OT? If so, why did the overwhelming history of your faith not get the memo until the last dozen decades or so? I mean, either its not as easy as you claim.......or the Christians throughout the majority of the history of your faith weren't 'true believers'.

Either that or God changed his mind. And around the 1800s or so decided that we should stop killing gays. Is that what happened?

You're being intentionally vague and evasive.....like there's something about your beliefs that you're ashamed of or are trying to hide. Just be honest. What should we be doing to the 'faggots' and the 'n*ggers' as you call them?

I'm still waiting on verses from the NT that say God tells us to kill faggots. You've been asked more than once and failed every time.

God doesn't change his mind. People like you misuse his word. His worded warned us about people like and and is clear about what will happen to you because you did.

No, you're still evading. For nearly 2 millennium Christians killed gays in God's name, quoting the OT. Now you dismiss mention of the OT and demand passages from the NT.

Did virtually the entire history of your faith get it wrong? Or did you? Are gays supposed to be executed as commanded in Leviticus and carried out by Christians for centuries? Or did they horribly misinterpret the Bible, using it to justify horrendous acts of evil, cruelty and sin?

Pick one. Because your evasions only demonstrate that you've got something to hide about your faith. And there are topics related to homosexuality and Christianity that you do NOT want to discuss.

So you can't provide them. Go **** yourself until you can. I bet that's the only way you'll ever get some if you can call ******* yourself as getting some.

Ah, the conservative Christian perspective of the 'True Believer'. Run from the horrendous theological holes in your faith and their treatment of gays, and tell anyone who dares to question you to 'go **** themselves'.

But its Morovant that makes Christianity look like something that folks don't want?

Laughing...really?

The anti gay thing really helped me realize religions are all man made.

I can't believe gays believe christians who tell them they are flawed. I'd be like **** you and your religion.

They offer the sexual part once with teeth.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

And no ones joining a cult with your message. But as an athiest I love your honesty. Fastest growing population in america is athiests. And while Muslims are breedind I dont see their grandkids being devout in 2 generations. Church memberships going down. There use to be 20 now 10 churches. One day maybe only 1

The god of good and knowledge.

Yes, I'm sure you jack off listening to John Lennon's "Imagine". I'm sure you look forward to the day you're in charge again so you can resume killing millions of people to show how fucked up religion is.

This planet is overpopulated with humans. We need planned parenthood for anyone who doesnt want a child. You guys seem to like it that the poor keep breeding workers and consumers. IUD should be 100% free for any woman that doesnt want a child. Simply take it out when you want to have kids and its 98% effective over 10 years. Condoms and pills can't say that.

Abortion shouldn't be so common. Cover IUD in obamacare. If not you are causing abortions when people who can't have kids get knocked up.

If you really believe the planet is over populated, you would lead by example. Please roll out some plastic so after you off yourself the rest of us can roll you up in the plastic and throw you in the dumpster. I wish more suicides understood this simple courtesy.

Or I can not have kids. My brother has 2 boys my name genes and last name will all continue and I didn't have to do more than play with them and buy them Xmas and bday gifts. I have many friends who all dont have kids and were in our 40s. I dont want to have kids. I'm too selfish. Its all about me I'll be honest.

I dont know why you would go right to suggesting suicide. Let me guess you're a good christian?

I was mirroring your casual disregard for human life. To value your own life while abhorring another's is hypocritical. I just ask if you're going to call for the death of your fellow human beings, you be consistent in holding your own just as cheap.

And I have 4 kids. We would have had more but biology went turncoat on us.

 

[Montrovant]

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

How do you know what I am opposed to and not opposed to when it comes to other types of sin? You say you aren't on the left but you sure sound like one of them that thinks they can read minds.

It can sound however you want it to sound. Again, if you ASSume it means something because you don't like the way it's expressed, you're quacking like a duck. Don't be surprised if people think you are.

You realize I was not speaking to your, did not specify you, and in fact clearly said that I find it hypocritical when the people (plural) act a particular way? Why would you assume a post I made in response to someone else which did not single out anyone was directed at you?

 

[Montrovant]

Conservatives desire to teach hatred of homosexuals to children- and luckily we have been largely successful at stopping them.

As a Conservative I teach my children that HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong. YOU twist it to call it hate of the person.

If your children did something wrong, did you hate them or did you just dislike what they did?

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You are incorrectly making an implication. The receiver is the one that implies what he/she thinks the sender is saying. The sender can only say it.

The problem is you think I should change the words I use based on how others feel about them. Since I don't work for them, what they think doesn't matter. No one has a right not to be offended and if they get offended by the words I use, it's their problem. I don't have to please them and that's what you seem to be asking me to do.

To imply is to say something indirectly. I felt you were implying something. I may be wrong about that. It is not implying to think someone else is saying something indirectly, however.

Yes, I tend to think that being polite, showing a modicum of courtesy, is a good thing. It makes life run a bit more smoothly. You're obviously perfectly able to throw around the word ****** all you want, and to claim that doing so is just a figure of speech and not a derogatory word or insult if you want as well. I'm able to think it indicates you have a particular hatred for gays. I'm also able to think it is not merely some figure of speech but a deliberate attempt to insult and garner a reaction when you do it so frequently and with venom. Of course no one has a right not to be offended. That doesn't mean I think I should do my best to offend everyone whenever I can. Do you think you should?

 

[Montrovant]

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

Which does nothing to refute what I said. I won't waste half a second trying to appease implacable Leftists.

Did I, at any point, ask you to?

You asked Conservative65 to.

Did I? I only remember giving my opinion on the attitudes I think he has projected in this thread and asking for clarification on things he said. I don't remember telling him or asking him to do differently (although I'll grant that it may have been implied).

 

[Conservative65]

As a Conservative I teach my children that HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong. YOU twist it to call it hate of the person.

If your children did something wrong, did you hate them or did you just dislike what they did?

I completely understand the difference between hating a person and hating something about them or something they do. However, when you throw around epithets like ****** as you have in this thread, it strongly suggests more than simply 'hating the sin'.

Don't confuse politically incorrect terms with hate. That would be a good example of you implying something incorrectly. I'm not politically correct in person and damn sure won't change for this site.

First, I think you mean I am incorrectly reading an implication in your words. I'm not the one implying something in this case.

Second, I find the argument that using an insult is simply a matter of not being PC fairly weak. If you know a word is looked at as insulting and you proceed to not only use it, but use it often and in conjunction with derogatory or negative statements, that appears as more than just not being PC. That looks like intentional insulting and hostility. I can accept that you may not mean it that way, but it certainly comes off that way.

You are incorrectly making an implication. The receiver is the one that implies what he/she thinks the sender is saying. The sender can only say it.

The problem is you think I should change the words I use based on how others feel about them. Since I don't work for them, what they think doesn't matter. No one has a right not to be offended and if they get offended by the words I use, it's their problem. I don't have to please them and that's what you seem to be asking me to do.

To imply is to say something indirectly. I felt you were implying something. I may be wrong about that. It is not implying to think someone else is saying something indirectly, however.

Yes, I tend to think that being polite, showing a modicum of courtesy, is a good thing. It makes life run a bit more smoothly. You're obviously perfectly able to throw around the word ****** all you want, and to claim that doing so is just a figure of speech and not a derogatory word or insult if you want as well. I'm able to think it indicates you have a particular hatred for gays. I'm also able to think it is not merely some figure of speech but a deliberate attempt to insult and garner a reaction when you do it so frequently and with venom. Of course no one has a right not to be offended. That doesn't mean I think I should do my best to offend everyone whenever I can. Do you think you should?

For you to say I was implying something meant you had to look at it that way. I don't imply. I'll say what I need to say. If someone views it incorrectly, they implied a meaning that wasn't made. It's obvious I hold no punches.

If someone considers something an insult or offensive, that's their problem. You can think what you want but that's YOU implying. If I hated gays, I'd come out and say it directly.

I can't offend anyone. If they are offended, it's because THEY were offended. All I did was say it. You don't have the ability to offend me. If I am offended at something, which is rare, if ever, it's because I GET offended not that you offend me. I don't believe it's possible for you to offend me.

 

[Conservative65]

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

Which does nothing to refute what I said. I won't waste half a second trying to appease implacable Leftists.

Did I, at any point, ask you to?

You asked Conservative65 to.

Did I? I only remember giving my opinion on the attitudes I think he has projected in this thread and asking for clarification on things he said. I don't remember telling him or asking him to do differently (although I'll grant that it may have been implied).

Actually you did. You have made it clear that you believe I shouldn't use certain words. That's telling me what I should and shouldn't say not implying it.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You know something? Just having a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is received as hate and bigotry by you people. It's time we realized there's no pleasing the demonic Left so I, and other Christians as well, have stopped trying. I don't give a triple flying Fahrvergnügen what you people find offensive since you rage at even the slightest deviation from your lock step brainwashed dogma. You're not worth the effort.

I don't know what 'you people' you think that I am, unless it's people who don't find anything particularly wrong with homosexuality. I am certainly not part of the left, demonic or otherwise. I sometimes find religious objections to homosexuality to be, if not hypocritical, at least strange when those same people are not so opposed to various other types of sin. However, I'm not raging at anyone for deviating from any dogma.

Using clearly insulting words while making what seem to be hostile posts (go suck a dick, ****** or things to that effect) may not sound like more than a difference in vocabulary to you. It seems deeper than that to me.

Which does nothing to refute what I said. I won't waste half a second trying to appease implacable Leftists.

Did I, at any point, ask you to?

You asked Conservative65 to.

Did I? I only remember giving my opinion on the attitudes I think he has projected in this thread and asking for clarification on things he said. I don't remember telling him or asking him to do differently (although I'll grant that it may have been implied).

You're missing the larger point. Trying to gain the approval of the Left is like trying to sweep a dirt floor. If I think someone is a ******, I'm going to say so. And there are too many faggots right here in this forum to ignore.