A Child Can't Call 2 Women or 2 Men "Mom & Dad"

[Montrovant]

The point of this thread is that children can't be used as lab rats in the grand new social experiment...either as fatherless sons or motherless daughters, or in genital mutilation.

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

 

[IlarMeilyr]

If one can call Associate Justice of Supreme Court of the United States of America Ruth Bader Ginsburg "Justice," then one can call two same gender parents mom and dad. No problem.

 

[Silhouette]

The point of this thread is that children can't be used as lab rats in the grand new social experiment...either as fatherless sons or motherless daughters, or in genital mutilation.

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

 

[Montrovant]

The point of this thread is that children can't be used as lab rats in the grand new social experiment...either as fatherless sons or motherless daughters, or in genital mutilation.

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

What you did was added genital mutilation to your argument, in fact you described it as part of the point of this thread. That someone else brought it up doesn't change how quickly you added it to your rant about the evils of same sex marriage.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The point of this thread is that children can't be used as lab rats in the grand new social experiment...either as fatherless sons or motherless daughters, or in genital mutilation.

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

What you did was added genital mutilation to your argument, in fact you described it as part of the point of this thread. That someone else brought it up doesn't change how quickly you added it to your rant about the evils of same sex marriage.

It is part of the evils of queer marriage. If consenting adults kept their perversions to themselves, few would have a problem with them. But they perversely want to impose their perversion on innocent children, children who deserve an intact mother and father family.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

I dunno. I am proud to be a conservative on the political spectrum. The word conservative gets conflated, lots of times, with the notion of "social" conservative and what that term means is up in the air for debate.

I have some friends from work who are gay. They are married. They are raising at least one child each.

Some folks decline to call what they have a "family." I call bullshit on that. It is every bit as much a family as the union of a male and female with their offspring. In some cases, their ability to raise a family has been better than the ability of some straight parents I know. In one case, there is no question at all that the child (adopted from overseas) is MUCH better off with two women serving as parents in her family than she otherwise may have ended up.

And for the most part, as a political conservative, I see it as pretty much none of our business. They aren't preaching "gay values" to the kids. They aren't engaging in any sexual deviancy. They are simply trying to raise a child and nurture the child, provide for the child and provide a loving home environment and security for the child. (OMG. The horror!)

I don't believe the kids object. At all. Why the hell should WE object, therefore?

 

[Montrovant]

The point of this thread is that children can't be used as lab rats in the grand new social experiment...either as fatherless sons or motherless daughters, or in genital mutilation.

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

What you did was added genital mutilation to your argument, in fact you described it as part of the point of this thread. That someone else brought it up doesn't change how quickly you added it to your rant about the evils of same sex marriage.

It is part of the evils of queer marriage. If consenting adults kept their perversions to themselves, few would have a problem with them. But they perversely want to impose their perversion on innocent children, children who deserve an intact mother and father family.

How is it part of same sex marriage?

And while I don't know if the hormone treatments were involved, there have been at least a couple of cases of heterosexual parents not telling people the gender of their child so that the child can decide for itself, or avoid gender stereotypes.

It's strange, but as with most things, not a strangeness limited to gays, let alone married gays.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The point of this thread is that children can't be used as lab rats in the grand new social experiment...either as fatherless sons or motherless daughters, or in genital mutilation.

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

What you did was added genital mutilation to your argument, in fact you described it as part of the point of this thread. That someone else brought it up doesn't change how quickly you added it to your rant about the evils of same sex marriage.

It is part of the evils of queer marriage. If consenting adults kept their perversions to themselves, few would have a problem with them. But they perversely want to impose their perversion on innocent children, children who deserve an intact mother and father family.

How is it part of same sex marriage?

And while I don't know if the hormone treatments were involved, there have been at least a couple of cases of heterosexual parents not telling people the gender of their child so that the child can decide for itself, or avoid gender stereotypes.

It's strange, but as with most things, not a strangeness limited to gays, let alone married gays.

You know what I get weary of? I get weary of people who had the benefit of growing up with a mother and a father telling kids today they can make do with less. Or maybe some of you are people who didn't get a mother and a father and you want children today to have it hard as you did growing up. Good people want more for the next generation, not austerity.

I guess Leftists aren't good people.

 

[Montrovant]

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

What you did was added genital mutilation to your argument, in fact you described it as part of the point of this thread. That someone else brought it up doesn't change how quickly you added it to your rant about the evils of same sex marriage.

It is part of the evils of queer marriage. If consenting adults kept their perversions to themselves, few would have a problem with them. But they perversely want to impose their perversion on innocent children, children who deserve an intact mother and father family.

How is it part of same sex marriage?

And while I don't know if the hormone treatments were involved, there have been at least a couple of cases of heterosexual parents not telling people the gender of their child so that the child can decide for itself, or avoid gender stereotypes.

It's strange, but as with most things, not a strangeness limited to gays, let alone married gays.

You know what I get weary of? I get weary of people who had the benefit of growing up with a mother and a father telling kids today they can make do with less. Or maybe some of you are people who didn't get a mother and a father and you want children today to have it hard as you did growing up. Good people want more for the next generation, not austerity.

I guess Leftists aren't good people.

That's all a wonderful deflection, but still doesn't answer how genital mutilation is part of same sex marriage.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I feel for those who don't have mothers to celebrate on Mothers Day and for those who don't have fathers to celebrate on Fathers Day due to a situation like this one. They could have a mom and a dad and yet they don't because of the selfishness of who they are stuck with against their own will. Its bad enough that there are people out there who have lost their parents to whatever fatal circumstances ended up on their plate, but a picture like this one does not have to exist.

God bless those without moms and dads always!!!

Holly

P.S. I'm rather surprised that we still even have these days on the calendar.

 

[Silhouette]

I feel for those who don't have mothers to celebrate on Mothers Day and for those who don't have fathers to celebrate on Fathers Day due to a situation like this one. They could have a mom and a dad and yet they don't because of the selfishness of who they are stuck with against their own will. Its bad enough that there are people out there who have lost their parents to whatever fatal circumstances ended up on their plate, but a picture like this one does not have to exist.

God bless those without moms and dads always!!!.

The irony is that most of the posters here who are aggressively advocating for fatherless son and motherless daughter (same-sex) marriage are those who themselves had a mother/father home. This is why I call it the "new experiment". The most rabid advocates of it never had to undergo it. And they want to use children as lab rats in the new experiment.

Red flag.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ Amen to that. As long as they themselves do not have to go through it, they have no issue with it.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. What makes it all worse is that they could very well be who wants to put the kids through it. Well that right there is just it. If they had both a mom and a dad and you know that they did because that is the only way that a person can really be here at all, their kids should have one too!

 

[Syriusly]

You can drag out any strawmen you want to Silhouette.

Meanwhile- here was your exact quote:

All 13-year-olds should be able to marry in all 50 states. They can in New Hampshire. What ever happened to civil rights?

As I said- I support your right to pursue your goal of marrying 13 year olds.

You have the right to pursue chaning the laws, or to challenge the laws in court.

And none of that has anything to do with same gender marriage.

Yes, let's pretend to be tone deaf to sarcasm. But since you can't tell the boy sitting between two lez-dikes who want to deball him is miserable, maybe you do need to have social cues explained to you.

The child does look miserable.

You presume you know why the child looks miserable, and that it fits your anti-gay agenda.

I, on the other hand, only can see that at the moment the photo is taken, the child looks unhappy- anything other than that would be speculating like a raving bigot.

He's a boy being dressed like a girl, being pumped with estrogen, and being threatened with neutering. Only a complete ASS (meaning you) would think something else is bothering him. You assholes are the reason that laws and courts need to step in and protect children from your sick perversion.

He is a boy who from what we have heard has gender identity issues- which commonly are associated with depression. There is no evidence he is being threatened with anything- that is entirely your projection.

Only a complete ASS(meaning you) would use this child as part of your campaign to attack homosexuals. You assholes are the reason the law and courts need to step in and protect children from your sick perversion.

Wrong. If you want to have gay butt sex between consenting adults, then vaya con Dios. But when you perverts start victimizing children, that becomes everyone's business.

Why exactly do you think that these women are having 'gay butt sex"?

As has been pointed out- there are articles talking about other families trying to figure out how to help their children who identify as the opposite gender- but you ignore those to attack homosexuals.

Because that is all you do.

That is all you have.

Your hatred for homosexuals.

 

[Syriusly]

I feel for those who don't have mothers to celebrate on Mothers Day and for those who don't have fathers to celebrate on Fathers Day due to a situation like this one. They could have a mom and a dad and yet they don't because of the selfishness of who they are stuck with against their own will. Its bad enough that there are people out there who have lost their parents to whatever fatal circumstances ended up on their plate, but a picture like this one does not have to exist.

God bless those without moms and dads always!!!.

The irony is that most of the posters here who are aggressively advocating for fatherless son and motherless daughter (same-sex) marriage are those who themselves had a mother/father home.

Gay marriage does not change in anyway whether a child is raised with a father and mother or not.

If a child is being raised by a mother and a father- gay marriage doesn't affect that child.
if a child is being raised by a mother and a mother- gay marriage only means that the child can have married parents.

Why do you want to deny that child married parents?

 

[Syriusly]

I feel for those who don't have mothers to celebrate on Mothers Day and for those who don't have fathers to celebrate on Fathers Day due to a situation like this one.r.

The majority of children who do not have mothers or fathers to celebrate Mothers day or Fathers day are those children raised by a single parent who has had one biological parent abandon them.

If you really are so concerned about this issue- where are your threads trying to prevent single parent families- the majority of such children.

 

[lake avenue]

Mom and dad refers to a female and male guardian respectively.

Of course a gay couple can't be called mom and dad. I thought that was rather.. obvious. However, this doesn't mean that same-sex couples shouldn't have the right to marriage. Honestly I'm not sure where the OP is going with this post.

 

[Syriusly]

Now we've moved to genital mutilation, huh?

No, Syriusly and another poster were talking about this thread on the previous page here: Boy Drugged By Lesbian Parents To Be A Girl US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum I was the one bringing the conversation back to this topic. Might want to read back a page and catch up.

What you did was added genital mutilation to your argument, in fact you described it as part of the point of this thread. That someone else brought it up doesn't change how quickly you added it to your rant about the evils of same sex marriage.

It is part of the evils of queer marriage. If consenting adults kept their perversions to themselves, few would have a problem with them. But they perversely want to impose their perversion on innocent children, children who deserve an intact mother and father family.

How is it part of same sex marriage?

And while I don't know if the hormone treatments were involved, there have been at least a couple of cases of heterosexual parents not telling people the gender of their child so that the child can decide for itself, or avoid gender stereotypes.

It's strange, but as with most things, not a strangeness limited to gays, let alone married gays.

You know what I get weary of? I get weary of people who had the benefit of growing up with a mother and a father telling kids today they can make do with less. Or maybe some of you are people who didn't get a mother and a father and you want children today to have it hard as you did growing up. Good people want more for the next generation, not austerity.

I guess Leftists aren't good people.

You know what I get tired of? Bigots telling parents how to raise their children.

I get weary of the bigots telling parents that they know better than the parents do how to raise children.

I get real weary of bigots telling children of gay people that they don't deserve married parents.

I don't have to guess- bigots aren't good people.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I feel for those who don't have mothers to celebrate on Mothers Day and for those who don't have fathers to celebrate on Fathers Day due to a situation like this one.r.

The majority of children who do not have mothers or fathers to celebrate Mothers day or Fathers day are those children raised by a single parent who has had one biological parent abandon them.

If you really are so concerned about this issue- where are your threads trying to prevent single parent families- the majority of such children.

Not all of those kids are raised by one parent due to the other one abandoning them. They could have just one parent due to the other one passing away in one way or another which is something that no one can prevent.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. But since you brought it up to me, yes, to me, if a person can get re-married to another person of the opposite gender, they should, so that the kids can have both a mom and a dad again.

 

[Syriusly]

I feel for those who don't have mothers to celebrate on Mothers Day and for those who don't have fathers to celebrate on Fathers Day due to a situation like this one.r.

The majority of children who do not have mothers or fathers to celebrate Mothers day or Fathers day are those children raised by a single parent who has had one biological parent abandon them.

If you really are so concerned about this issue- where are your threads trying to prevent single parent families- the majority of such children.

Not all of those kids are raised by one parent due to the other one abandoning them. They could have just one parent due to the other one passing away in one way or another which is something that no one can prevent.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. But since you brought it up to me, yes, to me, if a person can get re-married to another person of the opposite gender, they should, so that the kids can have both a mom and a dad again.

Holly- but you ignored the children I was speaking about.

The majority of children who do not have mothers or fathers to celebrate Mothers day or Fathers day are those children raised by a single parent who has had one biological parent abandon them. Very few of them are children of widows or widowers- but the same applies to them anyway.

Why are you focused on the small minority of children and ignoring the majority of children?

If you really are so concerned about this issue- where are your threads trying to prevent single parent families- the majority of such children

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ To me, a same gender union will only deprive the children involved of the missing parent even more than single parents can because a same gender marriage means that the missing gender will most definitely not ever be in the picture.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. A single parent can change their marital status at any time. My question is, why give the children involved who it is that they already have one of?