A big reason Trump is scared as hell of becoming a private citizen again.

TDS number 5,785,453,675,876,432,175
Still not close to ODS..

A "Derangement Syndrome" diagnosis requires that the President in question did not actually harm the nation.

Unfortunately, with Obama and Biden, actual harm to the nation is documented.

Therefore, while TDS is an appropriate term, ODS is merely a "revenge" emotional knee jerk, but not a valid claim.

Consider yourself "schooled"
^^^ BDS
^^^ PMS
 
It's no secret that the left wing banana republic democrats and their minions in the media will continue to go after him.
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
Here is just some....


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has an active criminal investigation into Trump and his businesses. The exact contours of the probe are not clear, but court papers suggest he's investigating possible insurance or financial fraud.

"That looks like it's the most likely place where he could have some criminal liability around taxes, for example," Wehle said.

The case has been tied up for months as Trump fights a grand jury subpoena that Vance issued to the president's personal accounting firm. Vance's office is seeking eight years of Trump's tax returns and financial records.

The president fought the subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court last summer and lost
, although the high court left the door open for him to raise other legal challenges.

Trump did so, arguing that the subpoena was overly broad and politically motivated. Vance rejected those claims, and lower courts agreed with the district attorney's office. Trump's attorneys are now asking the Supreme Court to block the subpoena.

Wehle said the patience Vance's team has shown in litigating its subpoena case suggests the probe isn't simply political — a Democratic city official in New York playing to the crowd there.

"It's hard to imagine that Cyrus Vance would have put this kind of effort into investigating Donald Trump while he was president if he was just going to drop that investigation and anything that could come out of that when he is a private citizen like anyone else," Wehle said.


The Vance case is not the only legal trouble brewing in New York.


The state attorney general, Letitia James, is conducting a civil investigation into the Trump businesses. James is looking into whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of its assets for loan or insurance purposes, and then deflated the value for tax purposes.

The president's son, Eric Trump, reportedly was deposed under oath last month as part of the probe.

While James' investigation is a civil one, it could cross over to the criminal side depending on what investigators uncover.

According to Perry, the former New York prosecutor, both of the probes could be relatively straightforward because they are likely based heavily on documents.

"If you're looking at several assets, for example, and different values are attributed to them, one in a tax return and another in a bank loan document, that might be relatively simple," she said. "They do seem to be very paper based."

Cohen alleged in congressional testimony that Trump's businesses engaged in such practices.

But there are significant challenges in criminal tax cases, Perry said, because returns for a sprawling business can be complicated, and prosecutors have to prove that people involved willfully broke the law.

"To prove that the taxpayer here, Mr. Trump himself, has committed intentional, willful tax fraud can be difficult, and it doesn't necessarily fly off the pages of the tax returns," Perry said. "A cooperating witness is always very helpful for that."

It isn't clear whether Cohen or other sometime aides of Trump might be in a position to appear in a criminal case and testify as to the boss's actions or ...

And Trump's legal jeopardy does not end there.

He also faces defamation lawsuits filed by two women who say he sexually assaulted them — allegations he denies. While Trump doesn't face criminal liability in those suits, he does face potential damage to his reputation and financial repercussions.

In all, it adds up to a legally perilous — and potentially expensive — post-presidency.

"It's a potential avalanche," Wehle said. "But this is, again, a man that is very used to using the legal system to his advantage."
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
Here is just some....


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has an active criminal investigation into Trump and his businesses. The exact contours of the probe are not clear, but court papers suggest he's investigating possible insurance or financial fraud.

"That looks like it's the most likely place where he could have some criminal liability around taxes, for example," Wehle said.

The case has been tied up for months as Trump fights a grand jury subpoena that Vance issued to the president's personal accounting firm. Vance's office is seeking eight years of Trump's tax returns and financial records.

The president fought the subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court last summer and lost, although the high court left the door open for him to raise other legal challenges.

Trump did so, arguing that the subpoena was overly broad and politically motivated. Vance rejected those claims, and lower courts agreed with the district attorney's office. Trump's attorneys are now asking the Supreme Court to block the subpoena.

Wehle said the patience Vance's team has shown in litigating its subpoena case suggests the probe isn't simply political — a Democratic city official in New York playing to the crowd there.

"It's hard to imagine that Cyrus Vance would have put this kind of effort into investigating Donald Trump while he was president if he was just going to drop that investigation and anything that could come out of that when he is a private citizen like anyone else," Wehle said.


The Vance case is not the only legal trouble brewing in New York.


The state attorney general, Letitia James, is conducting a civil investigation into the Trump businesses. James is looking into whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of its assets for loan or insurance purposes, and then deflated the value for tax purposes.

The president's son, Eric Trump, reportedly was deposed under oath last month as part of the probe.

While James' investigation is a civil one, it could cross over to the criminal side depending on what investigators uncover.

According to Perry, the former New York prosecutor, both of the probes could be relatively straightforward because they are likely based heavily on documents.

"If you're looking at several assets, for example, and different values are attributed to them, one in a tax return and another in a bank loan document, that might be relatively simple," she said. "They do seem to be very paper based."

Cohen alleged in congressional testimony that Trump's businesses engaged in such practices.

But there are significant challenges in criminal tax cases, Perry said, because returns for a sprawling business can be complicated, and prosecutors have to prove that people involved willfully broke the law.

"To prove that the taxpayer here, Mr. Trump himself, has committed intentional, willful tax fraud can be difficult, and it doesn't necessarily fly off the pages of the tax returns," Perry said. "A cooperating witness is always very helpful for that."

It isn't clear whether Cohen or other sometime aides of Trump might be in a position to appear in a criminal case and testify as to the boss's actions or ...

And Trump's legal jeopardy does not end there.

He also faces defamation lawsuits filed by two women who say he sexually assaulted them — allegations he denies. While Trump doesn't face criminal liability in those suits, he does face potential damage to his reputation and financial repercussions.

In all, it adds up to a legally perilous — and potentially expensive — post-presidency.

"It's a potential avalanche," Wehle said. "But this is, again, a man that is very used to using the legal system to his advantage."

All will be dropped if Trump wins or loses.
I wouldnt set my hopes on Trump being prosecuted for anything.
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
Here is just some....


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has an active criminal investigation into Trump and his businesses. The exact contours of the probe are not clear, but court papers suggest he's investigating possible insurance or financial fraud.

"That looks like it's the most likely place where he could have some criminal liability around taxes, for example," Wehle said.

The case has been tied up for months as Trump fights a grand jury subpoena that Vance issued to the president's personal accounting firm. Vance's office is seeking eight years of Trump's tax returns and financial records.

The president fought the subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court last summer and lost, although the high court left the door open for him to raise other legal challenges.

Trump did so, arguing that the subpoena was overly broad and politically motivated. Vance rejected those claims, and lower courts agreed with the district attorney's office. Trump's attorneys are now asking the Supreme Court to block the subpoena.

Wehle said the patience Vance's team has shown in litigating its subpoena case suggests the probe isn't simply political — a Democratic city official in New York playing to the crowd there.

"It's hard to imagine that Cyrus Vance would have put this kind of effort into investigating Donald Trump while he was president if he was just going to drop that investigation and anything that could come out of that when he is a private citizen like anyone else," Wehle said.


The Vance case is not the only legal trouble brewing in New York.


The state attorney general, Letitia James, is conducting a civil investigation into the Trump businesses. James is looking into whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of its assets for loan or insurance purposes, and then deflated the value for tax purposes.

The president's son, Eric Trump, reportedly was deposed under oath last month as part of the probe.

While James' investigation is a civil one, it could cross over to the criminal side depending on what investigators uncover.

According to Perry, the former New York prosecutor, both of the probes could be relatively straightforward because they are likely based heavily on documents.

"If you're looking at several assets, for example, and different values are attributed to them, one in a tax return and another in a bank loan document, that might be relatively simple," she said. "They do seem to be very paper based."

Cohen alleged in congressional testimony that Trump's businesses engaged in such practices.

But there are significant challenges in criminal tax cases, Perry said, because returns for a sprawling business can be complicated, and prosecutors have to prove that people involved willfully broke the law.

"To prove that the taxpayer here, Mr. Trump himself, has committed intentional, willful tax fraud can be difficult, and it doesn't necessarily fly off the pages of the tax returns," Perry said. "A cooperating witness is always very helpful for that."

It isn't clear whether Cohen or other sometime aides of Trump might be in a position to appear in a criminal case and testify as to the boss's actions or ...

And Trump's legal jeopardy does not end there.

He also faces defamation lawsuits filed by two women who say he sexually assaulted them — allegations he denies. While Trump doesn't face criminal liability in those suits, he does face potential damage to his reputation and financial repercussions.

In all, it adds up to a legally perilous — and potentially expensive — post-presidency.

"It's a potential avalanche," Wehle said. "But this is, again, a man that is very used to using the legal system to his advantage."

All will be dropped if Trump wins or loses.
I wouldnt set my hopes on Trump being prosecuted for anything.
Don't deny us our hopes...
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
Possibly planning to flee the country?

 
TDS number 5,785,453,675,876,432,175
Still not close to ODS..

A "Derangement Syndrome" diagnosis requires that the President in question did not actually harm the nation.

Unfortunately, with Obama and Biden, actual harm to the nation is documented.

Therefore, while TDS is an appropriate term, ODS is merely a "revenge" emotional knee jerk, but not a valid claim.

Consider yourself "schooled"
actual harm to the nation is documented. ..LOL!!..where did you hear that ..on Newsmax??
 
TDS number 5,785,453,675,876,432,175
Still not close to ODS..

A "Derangement Syndrome" diagnosis requires that the President in question did not actually harm the nation.

Unfortunately, with Obama and Biden, actual harm to the nation is documented.

Therefore, while TDS is an appropriate term, ODS is merely a "revenge" emotional knee jerk, but not a valid claim.

Consider yourself "schooled"
Lol, that's the silliest thing I've heard today.
 
TDS number 5,785,453,675,876,432,175
Still not close to ODS..

A "Derangement Syndrome" diagnosis requires that the President in question did not actually harm the nation.

Unfortunately, with Obama and Biden, actual harm to the nation is documented.

Therefore, while TDS is an appropriate term, ODS is merely a "revenge" emotional knee jerk, but not a valid claim.

Consider yourself "schooled"
actual harm to the nation is documented. ..LOL!!..where did you hear that ..on Newsmax??

You're acting like you don't know Obama executed multiple American citizens without due process during his regime.

Wait, did you actually NOT know that???

LOL
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
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He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million

Given the abject desperation I heard in his voice on that phone call, I'd have to say it's the legal issues he's worried about at this point. The moment he steps out of the WH at noon on 1/20, his umbrella of protection evaporates. And he knows it. He could issue himself a blanket pardon but I don't think those would protect him from a charge of treason or sedition. And they certainly don't protect against any state criminal charges or civil litigation. Again, he's going to spend the rest of his life dodging legal issues.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

I agree that his legal immunity, and his immense ego, are partly to blame for his attempt to cling to his position. But I believe the biggest reason is the loss of the profit engine that he has made the executive office. For one, his hotels have made a killing, rather it is selling rooms to the Secret Service at inflated cost, or selling them to foreign diplomats and businessmen eager to curry favor from Trump. The "family" business has made a fortune hawking US citizenship to Chinese nationals who are willing to pay inflated prices for Trump properties in order to "purchase" that half million dollar necessary investment for citizenship. But most of all, the only real "asset" Trump owns is his name. He sells it to various developers and product distributors, and being the president has propped up the value of that name to a great degree. By "losing", he loses that value, and it is possible that the value could be totally destroyed by the legacy of destruction his tenure is leaving behind. More than anything, he is attempting to at least forestall that decline in value.
He isn't going to leave his daily ranting. He will still be sucking off of his supporters and they will pay to keep him around.
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
View attachment 437782

So you have no response.
 
TDS number 5,785,453,675,876,432,175
Still not close to ODS..

A "Derangement Syndrome" diagnosis requires that the President in question did not actually harm the nation.

Unfortunately, with Obama and Biden, actual harm to the nation is documented.

Therefore, while TDS is an appropriate term, ODS is merely a "revenge" emotional knee jerk, but not a valid claim.

Consider yourself "schooled"
actual harm to the nation is documented. ..LOL!!..where did you hear that ..on Newsmax??
Obama care death panels in California
 
TDS number 5,785,453,675,876,432,175
Still not close to ODS..

A "Derangement Syndrome" diagnosis requires that the President in question did not actually harm the nation.

Unfortunately, with Obama and Biden, actual harm to the nation is documented.

Therefore, while TDS is an appropriate term, ODS is merely a "revenge" emotional knee jerk, but not a valid claim.

Consider yourself "schooled"
actual harm to the nation is documented. ..LOL!!..where did you hear that ..on Newsmax??

You're acting like you don't know Obama executed multiple American citizens without due process during his regime.

Wait, did you actually NOT know that???

LOL
Shhh they don't want the facts to get in the way
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
Here is just some....


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has an active criminal investigation into Trump and his businesses. The exact contours of the probe are not clear, but court papers suggest he's investigating possible insurance or financial fraud.

"That looks like it's the most likely place where he could have some criminal liability around taxes, for example," Wehle said.

The case has been tied up for months as Trump fights a grand jury subpoena that Vance issued to the president's personal accounting firm. Vance's office is seeking eight years of Trump's tax returns and financial records.

The president fought the subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court last summer and lost, although the high court left the door open for him to raise other legal challenges.

Trump did so, arguing that the subpoena was overly broad and politically motivated. Vance rejected those claims, and lower courts agreed with the district attorney's office. Trump's attorneys are now asking the Supreme Court to block the subpoena.

Wehle said the patience Vance's team has shown in litigating its subpoena case suggests the probe isn't simply political — a Democratic city official in New York playing to the crowd there.

"It's hard to imagine that Cyrus Vance would have put this kind of effort into investigating Donald Trump while he was president if he was just going to drop that investigation and anything that could come out of that when he is a private citizen like anyone else," Wehle said.


The Vance case is not the only legal trouble brewing in New York.


The state attorney general, Letitia James, is conducting a civil investigation into the Trump businesses. James is looking into whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of its assets for loan or insurance purposes, and then deflated the value for tax purposes.

The president's son, Eric Trump, reportedly was deposed under oath last month as part of the probe.

While James' investigation is a civil one, it could cross over to the criminal side depending on what investigators uncover.

According to Perry, the former New York prosecutor, both of the probes could be relatively straightforward because they are likely based heavily on documents.

"If you're looking at several assets, for example, and different values are attributed to them, one in a tax return and another in a bank loan document, that might be relatively simple," she said. "They do seem to be very paper based."

Cohen alleged in congressional testimony that Trump's businesses engaged in such practices.

But there are significant challenges in criminal tax cases, Perry said, because returns for a sprawling business can be complicated, and prosecutors have to prove that people involved willfully broke the law.

"To prove that the taxpayer here, Mr. Trump himself, has committed intentional, willful tax fraud can be difficult, and it doesn't necessarily fly off the pages of the tax returns," Perry said. "A cooperating witness is always very helpful for that."

It isn't clear whether Cohen or other sometime aides of Trump might be in a position to appear in a criminal case and testify as to the boss's actions or ...

And Trump's legal jeopardy does not end there.

He also faces defamation lawsuits filed by two women who say he sexually assaulted them — allegations he denies. While Trump doesn't face criminal liability in those suits, he does face potential damage to his reputation and financial repercussions.

In all, it adds up to a legally perilous — and potentially expensive — post-presidency.

"It's a potential avalanche," Wehle said. "But this is, again, a man that is very used to using the legal system to his advantage."

All will be dropped if Trump wins or loses.
I wouldnt set my hopes on Trump being prosecuted for anything.
The article doesn't seem to think so.... Vance has been in a real battle for subpoenas being honored and he hasn't backed down against Trump..... that indicates it ain't something small he can just walk away from imo. Only time will tell, I suppose.....?
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
Here is just some....


Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has an active criminal investigation into Trump and his businesses. The exact contours of the probe are not clear, but court papers suggest he's investigating possible insurance or financial fraud.

"That looks like it's the most likely place where he could have some criminal liability around taxes, for example," Wehle said.

The case has been tied up for months as Trump fights a grand jury subpoena that Vance issued to the president's personal accounting firm. Vance's office is seeking eight years of Trump's tax returns and financial records.

The president fought the subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court last summer and lost, although the high court left the door open for him to raise other legal challenges.

Trump did so, arguing that the subpoena was overly broad and politically motivated. Vance rejected those claims, and lower courts agreed with the district attorney's office. Trump's attorneys are now asking the Supreme Court to block the subpoena.

Wehle said the patience Vance's team has shown in litigating its subpoena case suggests the probe isn't simply political — a Democratic city official in New York playing to the crowd there.

"It's hard to imagine that Cyrus Vance would have put this kind of effort into investigating Donald Trump while he was president if he was just going to drop that investigation and anything that could come out of that when he is a private citizen like anyone else," Wehle said.


The Vance case is not the only legal trouble brewing in New York.


The state attorney general, Letitia James, is conducting a civil investigation into the Trump businesses. James is looking into whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of its assets for loan or insurance purposes, and then deflated the value for tax purposes.

The president's son, Eric Trump, reportedly was deposed under oath last month as part of the probe.

While James' investigation is a civil one, it could cross over to the criminal side depending on what investigators uncover.

According to Perry, the former New York prosecutor, both of the probes could be relatively straightforward because they are likely based heavily on documents.

"If you're looking at several assets, for example, and different values are attributed to them, one in a tax return and another in a bank loan document, that might be relatively simple," she said. "They do seem to be very paper based."

Cohen alleged in congressional testimony that Trump's businesses engaged in such practices.

But there are significant challenges in criminal tax cases, Perry said, because returns for a sprawling business can be complicated, and prosecutors have to prove that people involved willfully broke the law.

"To prove that the taxpayer here, Mr. Trump himself, has committed intentional, willful tax fraud can be difficult, and it doesn't necessarily fly off the pages of the tax returns," Perry said. "A cooperating witness is always very helpful for that."

It isn't clear whether Cohen or other sometime aides of Trump might be in a position to appear in a criminal case and testify as to the boss's actions or ...

And Trump's legal jeopardy does not end there.

He also faces defamation lawsuits filed by two women who say he sexually assaulted them — allegations he denies. While Trump doesn't face criminal liability in those suits, he does face potential damage to his reputation and financial repercussions.

In all, it adds up to a legally perilous — and potentially expensive — post-presidency.

"It's a potential avalanche," Wehle said. "But this is, again, a man that is very used to using the legal system to his advantage."

All will be dropped if Trump wins or loses.
I wouldnt set my hopes on Trump being prosecuted for anything.
The article doesn't seem to think so.... Vance has been in a real battle for subpoenas being honored and he hasn't backed down against Trump..... that indicates it ain't something small he can just walk away from imo. Only time will tell, I suppose.....?

He hasn't backed down because he has no reason to.
It's a typical scare tactic from left wing politicians in NY.
We've already seen this before.
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
View attachment 437782

So you have no response.
Am I supposed to respond to your blatant denial of reality with anything other than amusement?

if you were hoping someone would go through the trouble of listing the whole sad shit-show again your outta luck.
 
He's trying to hang on for another four years of immunity, which is why he's screaming he really won and the election was stolen from him. He knows damn well some people are taking a closer look at the Trump Organization and it's possible involvement in money laundering. 'Trump “owns the asset, lends the money, owes the money, is owed the money,” Davidson explained. “The overall picture is crystal clear: Every year, Trump lends millions to himself, spends all that money on something, and claims the asset is worth all the money he spent.”. But Trump couldn’t possibly have spent all the outlays he claims on his properties, Davidson said. “We have the planning docs. We know how much he spent — it’s far less than what he claims. The money truly disappears. It goes from one pocket to another pocket and then the pocket is opened to reveal nothing is there.”Losses At Trump's Scottish Golf Courses Top An Astonishing $75 Million
I wonder what troubles him more about losing: His upcoming legal issues or his profoundly brittle ego?
The legal issues....

What legal issues?
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So you have no response.
Am I supposed to respond to your blatant denial of reality with anything other than amusement?

if you were hoping someone would go through the trouble of listing the whole sad shit-show again your outta luck.

As expected ya got nothing.
 

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