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9/11 After A Decade: Have We Learned Anything?

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by Paul Craig Roberts
August 24, 2011

In a few days it will be the tenth anniversary of September 11, 2001. How well has the US government’s official account of the event held up over the decade?

Not very well. The chairman, vice chairman, and senior legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission wrote books partially disassociating themselves from the commission’s report. They said that the Bush administration put obstacles in their path, that information was withheld from them, that President Bush agreed to testify only if he was chaperoned by Vice President Cheney and neither were put under oath, that Pentagon and FAA officials lied to the commission and that the commission considered referring the false testimony for investigation for obstruction of justice.

In their book, the chairman and vice chairman, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, wrote that the 9/11 Commission was “set up to fail.” Senior counsel John Farmer, Jr., wrote that the US government made “a decision not to tell the truth about what happened,” and that the NORAD “tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public.” Kean said, “We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.”

Most of the questions from the 9/11 families were not answered. Important witnesses were not called. The commission only heard from those who supported the government’s account. The commission was a controlled political operation, not an investigation of events and evidence. Its membership consisted of former politicians. No knowledgeable experts were appointed to the commission.

One member of the 9/11 Commission, former Senator Max Cleland, responded to the constraints placed on the commission by the White House: “If this decision stands, I, as a member of the commission, cannot look any American in the eye, especially family members of victims, and say the commission had full access. This investigation is now compromised.” Cleland resigned rather than have his integrity compromised.

To be clear, neither Cleland nor members of the commission suggested that 9/11 was an inside job to advance a war agenda. Nevertheless, neither Congress nor the media wondered, at least not out loud, why President Bush was unwilling to appear before the commission under oath or without Cheney, why Pentagon and FAA officials lied to the commission or, if the officials did not lie, why the commission believed they lied, or why the White House resisted for so long any kind of commission being formed, even one under its control.

One would think that if a handful of Arabs managed to outwit not merely the CIA and FBI but all 16 US intelligence agencies, all intelligence agencies of our allies including Mossad, the National Security Council, the State Department, NORAD, airport security four times on one morning, air traffic control, etc., the President, Congress, and the media would be demanding to know how such an improbable event could occur. Instead, the White House put up a wall of resistance to finding out, and Congress and the media showed little interest.

During the decade that has passed, numerous 9/11 Truth organizations have formed.

There are Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Remember Building 7.org, and a New York group which includes 9/11 families. These groups call for a real investigation.

David Ray Griffen has written 10 carefully researched books documenting problems in the government’s account. Scientists have pointed out that the government has no explanation for the molten steel. NIST has been forced to admit that WTC 7 was in free fall for part of its descent, and a scientific team led by a professor of nano-chemistry at the University of Copenhagen has reported finding nano-thermite in the dust from the buildings.
 

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yep 10 years and still no hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings ....
 

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10 years, and not a single of of the TRUTHER'S(use only in well ventilated areas) "experts" can offer up a complete alternative theory as to what happened in New York, DC & PA that day.

They flail around, babbling about "thermite/thermate", "free fall", "space beams", "metal foam", etc., but can't explain what they think happened before, during and after 9/11 in a full narrative, and they can't name exactly who they believe (by name) the members of their "conspiracy" are.

In other words, they haven't spent any time researching their claims, and have just spent 10 years JAQing around.
 

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fuck

sucked in by a good thread title. I really need to start looking what zones these things are in.

but aside from more truther drivel

We haven't learned a damned thing. The warmonging left still thinks it can bomb muslims into democracy and they will love us for it.

ex;

We dumped a billions worth of crap onto and into Lybia. In return, we asked for the lockerby bomber. They said fuck you.

but hey, there's still Yemen!!
 

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1. ziplock bags have many uses.
2. wear clean socks or sandals to the airport.
3.the pat down.
4. not everyone who wears a turban is a Muslim.
5. a nail file is a potentially deadly weapon.
6. the main ingredient in sparklers (thermite)
7. that gravity works.
8.that some people will believe anything but reality.
9.September 11 is now a holiday.
10. to put locks on flight crew cabin doors.
 

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1. ziplock bags have many uses.
2. wear clean socks or sandals to the airport.
3.the pat down.
4. not everyone who wears a turban is a Muslim.
5. a nail file is a potentially deadly weapon.
6. the main ingredient in sparklers (thermite)
7. that gravity works.
8.that some people will believe anything but reality.
9.September 11 is now a holiday.
10. to put locks on flight crew cabin doors.

agree with #4. They could be a NYC cabbie!
 

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by Paul Craig Roberts
August 24, 2011

In a few days it will be the tenth anniversary of September 11, 2001. How well has the US government’s official account of the event held up over the decade?

Not very well. The chairman, vice chairman, and senior legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission wrote books partially disassociating themselves from the commission’s report. They said that the Bush administration put obstacles in their path, that information was withheld from them, that President Bush agreed to testify only if he was chaperoned by Vice President Cheney and neither were put under oath, that Pentagon and FAA officials lied to the commission and that the commission considered referring the false testimony for investigation for obstruction of justice.

In their book, the chairman and vice chairman, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, wrote that the 9/11 Commission was “set up to fail.” Senior counsel John Farmer, Jr., wrote that the US government made “a decision not to tell the truth about what happened,” and that the NORAD “tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public.” Kean said, “We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.”

Most of the questions from the 9/11 families were not answered. Important witnesses were not called. The commission only heard from those who supported the government’s account. The commission was a controlled political operation, not an investigation of events and evidence. Its membership consisted of former politicians. No knowledgeable experts were appointed to the commission.

One member of the 9/11 Commission, former Senator Max Cleland, responded to the constraints placed on the commission by the White House: “If this decision stands, I, as a member of the commission, cannot look any American in the eye, especially family members of victims, and say the commission had full access. This investigation is now compromised.” Cleland resigned rather than have his integrity compromised.

To be clear, neither Cleland nor members of the commission suggested that 9/11 was an inside job to advance a war agenda. Nevertheless, neither Congress nor the media wondered, at least not out loud, why President Bush was unwilling to appear before the commission under oath or without Cheney, why Pentagon and FAA officials lied to the commission or, if the officials did not lie, why the commission believed they lied, or why the White House resisted for so long any kind of commission being formed, even one under its control.

One would think that if a handful of Arabs managed to outwit not merely the CIA and FBI but all 16 US intelligence agencies, all intelligence agencies of our allies including Mossad, the National Security Council, the State Department, NORAD, airport security four times on one morning, air traffic control, etc., the President, Congress, and the media would be demanding to know how such an improbable event could occur. Instead, the White House put up a wall of resistance to finding out, and Congress and the media showed little interest.

During the decade that has passed, numerous 9/11 Truth organizations have formed.

There are Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Remember Building 7.org, and a New York group which includes 9/11 families. These groups call for a real investigation.

David Ray Griffen has written 10 carefully researched books documenting problems in the government’s account. Scientists have pointed out that the government has no explanation for the molten steel. NIST has been forced to admit that WTC 7 was in free fall for part of its descent, and a scientific team led by a professor of nano-chemistry at the University of Copenhagen has reported finding nano-thermite in the dust from the buildings.

Nobody cares.

We've learned that the old adage applies to twoofers; there are suckers born every minute. Twoofers=suckers.

As for the sane among us, sadly, I don't think there were any lasting lessons except that our collective veil of impenetrability was shattered for this generation and likely the next. Collectively, we've hit the snooze button, rolled over as a society and went back to sleep.

Air travel is not safe now. Safer? Yes, safe? No.

The number of soft targets has grown and have actually gotten softer.

We can be hit anytime, anywhere, and there isn't much that can be done to prevent it.
 

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The 9-11 commission was set up to cover Bill Clinton's ass. The former asst. A.G., Jamie Garelik, who wrote the order that prevented the CIA and the FBI from sharing information under threat of arrest, was a member of the panel. She should have been called as a witness but the panel was desperate to cover up Clinton's negligence.
 

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The 9-11 commission was set up to cover Bill Clinton's ass. The former asst. A.G., Jamie Garelik, who wrote the order that prevented the CIA and the FBI from sharing information under threat of arrest, was a member of the panel. She should have been called as a witness but the panel was desperate to cover up Clinton's negligence.
your point?
 

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yep 10 years and still no hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings ....

yep 10 years and plenty of hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings and that there are plenty of Bush/Obama dupes like yourself afraid of the truth so you close your eyes and cover your ears since you only see what you WANT to see.
 
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yep 10 years and still no hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings ....

yep 10 years and plenty of hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings and that there are plenty of Bush/Obama dupes like yourself afraid of the truth so you close your eyes and cover your ears since you only see what you WANT to see.
bahahahahahahahah!
 

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The 9-11 commission was set up to cover Bill Clinton's ass. The former asst. A.G., Jamie Garelik, who wrote the order that prevented the CIA and the FBI from sharing information under threat of arrest, was a member of the panel. She should have been called as a witness but the panel was desperate to cover up Clinton's negligence.
your point?

The primary purpose of a government commission is to keep the citizen rabble calm. The Warren commission to investigate the JFK assassination turned out to be a confusing mess designed to take the heat off the CIA and the JFK legacy. The 9-11 comission was no different. It was designed to take the heat off the CIA and the Clinton administration.
 

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The 9-11 commission was set up to cover Bill Clinton's ass. The former asst. A.G., Jamie Garelik, who wrote the order that prevented the CIA and the FBI from sharing information under threat of arrest, was a member of the panel. She should have been called as a witness but the panel was desperate to cover up Clinton's negligence.
your point?

The primary purpose of a government commission is to keep the citizen rabble calm. The Warren commission to investigate the JFK assassination turned out to be a confusing mess designed to take the heat off the CIA and the JFK legacy. The 9-11 comission was no different. It was designed to take the heat off the CIA and the Clinton administration.
any credible proof or just specious speculation?
 

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yep 10 years and still no hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings ....

yep 10 years and plenty of hard proof of a government conspiracy to blow up buildings and that there are plenty of Bush/Obama dupes like yourself afraid of the truth so you close your eyes and cover your ears since you only see what you WANT to see.

If you have plenty of hard proof, why don't you take it into a courtroom and get some convictions?

Quit JAQing around, and get some justice for the victims.
 

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We've learned that in the course of a decade, people are increasingly becoming dumber, and more gullible by the second. Who needs basic comprehension skills when we can believe that the planes were holograms projected into the buildings to cover up the lasers fired from space by extraterrestrial shape shifting reptiles, who also happen to hold every office of government in the world?

The fact that people actually believe this shit just... Fuck it, take it from here Professor:
tumblr_lqpwslcasC1qcs6g9.jpg
 
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We've learned that in the course of a decade, people are increasingly becoming dumber, and more gullible by the second. Who needs basic comprehension skills when we can believe that the planes were holograms projected into the buildings to cover up the lasers fired from space by extraterrestrial shape shifting reptiles, who also happen to hold every office of government in the world?

The fact that people actually believe this shit just... Fuck it, take it from here Professor:
tumblr_lqpwslcasC1qcs6g9.jpg

wtf are you rambling about you nut case ?
 

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We've learned that in the course of a decade, people are increasingly becoming dumber, and more gullible by the second. Who needs basic comprehension skills when we can believe that the planes were holograms projected into the buildings to cover up the lasers fired from space by extraterrestrial shape shifting reptiles, who also happen to hold every office of government in the world?

The fact that people actually believe this shit just... Fuck it, take it from here Professor:
tumblr_lqpwslcasC1qcs6g9.jpg

wtf are you rambling about you nut case ?
I see you're avoiding the Alex Jones thread and the PROOF I posted your God is an idiot.
 

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We've learned that in the course of a decade, people are increasingly becoming dumber, and more gullible by the second. Who needs basic comprehension skills when we can believe that the planes were holograms projected into the buildings to cover up the lasers fired from space by extraterrestrial shape shifting reptiles, who also happen to hold every office of government in the world?

The fact that people actually believe this shit just... Fuck it, take it from here Professor:
tumblr_lqpwslcasC1qcs6g9.jpg

wtf are you rambling about you nut case ?
I see you're avoiding the Alex Jones thread and the PROOF I posted your God is an idiot.

dear god,..yet another rambling moron
 

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