81% of Americans Favor Legalizing Medical Marijuana:

[NoNukes]

I have no problem legalizing it and regualting like alcohol. The only problem is we need something like a breathallizer to check pot intoxication levels for DUI.

About 12 years ago they were working on such a test, but they ran into a problem. None of the people they tested drove worse, and many of them drove better. The people doing the testing tried to hide the results, but the WHO found out about it and blew their stacks. They said that you cannot do medical research and hide the results because they were not what you wanted them to be.

 

[Lovebears65]

I have no problem with them legalizing pot. I find it no different then alcohol. As long as your doing it on your free time and not out driving while on it. I have no problem if it becomes legal.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Good, then liberals can spend their time getting high and expecting the rest of us to work to support them.

Yes, because nothing says Conservatism and limited Government like throwing people in the slammer for 10-15 for Pot. Ahh, the smell of hypocrisy in the morning sure is fresh, or is that afternoon where you are?

The DEMS put as many (sometimes more) people in prison for POT as the GOP.

....But, as usual....you've forgotten to post any details/proof.

 

[NoNukes]

Every somewhat legitimate poll I've seen is that support for legalizing marijuana has just reached 50%. After some years of experience with legalization of medical marijuana, California voters refused to legalize recreational use of marijuana. Before the vote, support for legalizing marijuana was said to be in some reports, as high as 90% in the state.

Forces which stand to suffer by the legalization of MJ include the adult beverage industry and big pharma. Of course many substance abuse professionals and those in recovery oppose its legalization for recreational use too.

There are two facts which ought to be considered. The cost of enforcement and the cost of the black market (in terms of crime and lost revenue).

On a cost-benefit level allowing each state to determine the legality of MJ makes sense.

estimated at 7 billion $ a year.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I don't care one way or the other.

Good.

Now, go away, Skippy.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Lol. Well when 81% of this nation pretty much agrees on something it's hard to get partisan. Somehow you people managed to do it.

Thing is, you can say what you want it ain't the leftists standing in the way of this one... it's the Christian Right... that likes to say they believe in "small government" to have some legitimacy with the rest of the Republicans. The neo-coons... who want a big christian values government. Damn shame... because they have their influences in both parties.

The right needs to get rid of the "values voters" for the world to change.

The Christian right in messing with it in Amsterdam too, and Amsterdam will lose 40% of its' lucrative tourist business.

Not a PROB!!!!

We'll get-by.....

......just fine!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qnwp6J7P20]Marijuana Inc. on MSNBC with Al Roker - Part 1 of 5 - YouTube[/ame]
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[Katzndogz]

Lol. Well when 81% of this nation pretty much agrees on something it's hard to get partisan. Somehow you people managed to do it.

Thing is, you can say what you want it ain't the leftists standing in the way of this one... it's the Christian Right... that likes to say they believe in "small government" to have some legitimacy with the rest of the Republicans. The neo-coons... who want a big christian values government. Damn shame... because they have their influences in both parties.

The right needs to get rid of the "values voters" for the world to change.

The Christian right in messing with it in Amsterdam too, and Amsterdam will lose 40% of its' lucrative tourist business.

The Netherlands, like most of Europe is largely secular or atheist. The citizens just can't take it anymore. Losing the lucrative drug tourism industry is exactly what they intend to do.

The Amsterdam experiment in drug legalization should be a model for the US. In this country, it is widely beleived that legalizing drugs will remove the element of organized crime. In reality, it was the exact opposite.

The connection between Amsterdam's coffeeshops and organized crime | DutchAmsterdam.nl

The results of drug legalization in Amsterdam only prove the validity of the results in Switzerland whith the failure of Needle Park.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I have no problem legalizing it and regualting like alcohol. The only problem is we need something like a breathallizer to check pot intoxication levels for DUI.

About 12 years ago they were working on such a test, but they ran into a problem. None of the people they tested drove worse, and many of them drove better. The people doing the testing tried to hide the results, but the WHO found out about it and blew their stacks. They said that you cannot do medical research and hide the results because they were not what you wanted them to be.

Whatta shame Big DICK Nixon never learned that.....

Marihuana:
A Signal of Misunderstanding

Commissioned by President Richard M. Nixon, March, 1972

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"Nixon wanted a “tough on crime” report regardless of the evidence. Governor Shafer delivered an honest report, with conclusions based on evidence. At the time Shafer was being considered for a federal judgeship, which, of course, he did not get."​

The Report

 

[NoNukes]

Lol. Well when 81% of this nation pretty much agrees on something it's hard to get partisan. Somehow you people managed to do it.

Thing is, you can say what you want it ain't the leftists standing in the way of this one... it's the Christian Right... that likes to say they believe in "small government" to have some legitimacy with the rest of the Republicans. The neo-coons... who want a big christian values government. Damn shame... because they have their influences in both parties.

The right needs to get rid of the "values voters" for the world to change.

The Christian right in messing with it in Amsterdam too, and Amsterdam will lose 40% of its' lucrative tourist business.

The Netherlands, like most of Europe is largely secular or atheist. The citizens just can't take it anymore. Losing the lucrative drug tourism industry is exactly what they intend to do.

The Amsterdam experiment in drug legalization should be a model for the US. In this country, it is widely beleived that legalizing drugs will remove the element of organized crime. In reality, it was the exact opposite.

The connection between Amsterdam's coffeeshops and organized crime | DutchAmsterdam.nl

The results of drug legalization in Amsterdam only prove the validity of the results in Switzerland whith the failure of Needle Park.

Drugs are not legal in Amsterdam, they turn a blind eye on soft drugs. The Netherlands has a low rate of drug addiction, and the lowest rate of drug deaths in Europe. The drug policies in the Netherlands do work. The connection between the coffeeshops and organized crime is because it is not legal.

 

[ClosedCaption]

The reason they made it illegal was a combination of reasons including pressure from the alcohol industry and big pharma. But the main reason was because those crazy black guys were using it, listening to jazz and ******* the womb outta white women. That had to be stopped so Mary Jane was made illegal.

I don't care about medical or recreational weed use. Just let me have some killer buds
and leave me alone. I'm an adult and the govt shouldn't be concerned with what I do to myself. I'm conservative that way.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The reason they made it illegal was a combination of reasons including pressure from the alcohol industry and big pharma.

....somewhat.

It was ALSO.....

....BU$INE$$-A$-U$UAL.

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[Katzndogz]

The controversy isn't about drug use. Drug use is merely a symptom of a sick and degraded culture. The question isn't whether we should legalize drugs including pot, or not. The question is how did we come to be a society where so many people need to get high and escape their moribund existence. We can't really make people care about themselves, their jobs, their cities, their government and most of all families and children. We can legalize a way of escape from these realities. It's easier than asking why people have to get high and addressing those issues.

 

[NoNukes]

I will be in Amsterdam tomorrow if anyone wants me to do any research.

 

[NoNukes]

The controversy isn't about drug use. Drug use is merely a symptom of a sick and degraded culture. The question isn't whether we should legalize drugs including pot, or not. The question is how did we come to be a society where so many people need to get high and escape their moribund existence. We can't really make people care about themselves, their jobs, their cities, their government and most of all families and children. We can legalize a way of escape from these realities. It's easier than asking why people have to get high and addressing those issues.

People have been doing it all through history, and nothing is going to change.

 

[ClosedCaption]

The controversy isn't about drug use. Drug use is merely a symptom of a sick and degraded culture. The question isn't whether we should legalize drugs including pot, or not. The question is how did we come to be a society where so many people need to get high and escape their moribund existence. We can't really make people care about themselves, their jobs, their cities, their government and most of all families and children. We can legalize a way of escape from these realities. It's easier than asking why people have to get high and addressing those issues.

You think drug use is something new? The founding fathers regularly used coke, heroine, weed and opium in public. Hell drug use has been around since the first caveman licked a frog. Altering your mindstate isn't something that just happened in the last 50 years

 

[Katzndogz]

Every society is going to have some people who lead such lives of hopelessness that they must escape their boring and meaningless lives. The founders were not among them. George Washington grew hemp, but it is not the strain that anyone could get anyone high. Benjamin Franklin used laudanum, which is opium mixed with wine for treatment of very painful chronic kidney stones. That's why we need to teach real history, not revisionist BS.

When you have a society in which large numbers of people no longer function productively that society has a real problem. Whether the means of escape is legal or not has nothing to do with the basic failure that society has become. It has failed. It has failed if drugs are legal or illegal.

 

[Katzndogz]

This shouldn't be hard to understand. Take any societal microcosm. Schools where drug use is rampant are failed schools. It doesn't matter whether the drugs are legally or illegally obtained. Businesses that turn a blind eye to employee drug use fail whether drugs are obtained legally or illegally. Families where parents take drugs are failed families that cannot raise children to functioning adults.

Legalize drugs, then look around for a way to fix the societal failures, or invite a stronger influence in that CAN.

 

[NoNukes]

Every society is going to have some people who lead such lives of hopelessness that they must escape their boring and meaningless lives. The founders were not among them. George Washington grew hemp, but it is not the strain that anyone could get anyone high. Benjamin Franklin used laudanum, which is opium mixed with wine for treatment of very painful chronic kidney stones. That's why we need to teach real history, not revisionist BS.

When you have a society in which large numbers of people no longer function productively that society has a real problem. Whether the means of escape is legal or not has nothing to do with the basic failure that society has become. It has failed. It has failed if drugs are legal or illegal.

Your real history is another person's phony history. Those of you on the right are afraid of what might be the truth.

 

[ClosedCaption]

This shouldn't be hard to understand. Take any societal microcosm. Schools where drug use is rampant are failed schools. It doesn't matter whether the drugs are legally or illegally obtained. Businesses that turn a blind eye to employee drug use fail whether drugs are obtained legally or illegally. Families where parents take drugs are failed families that cannot raise children to functioning adults.

Legalize drugs, then look around for a way to fix the societal failures, or invite a stronger influence in that CAN.

You say all that without one shread of evidence to support it because there is no evidence to support it

 

[MiddleClass]

And over 80% of Americans also support raising taxes on the top 1%.