730 jobs were saved and the Carrier deal

[Redfish]

he said "up to 1100". The 730 plus more new hires and the people who will be employed to upgrade and expand the factory.

As usual our lib members never tell the whole story.

As always our CON$ never tell the truth!

Carrier CEO lets it slip on the Mad Money with Jim Cramer Show that they will be automating the Indiana plant with an $16 million investment which will mean fewer Indiana jobs. Tramp offset that $16 million with $7 million in tax breaks, so Tramp is paying Carrier to replace Indiana workers with machines.
Typical Trumpery!!!!

GREG HAYES: Right. Well, and again, if you think about what we talked about last week, we're going to make a $16 million investment in that factory in Indianapolis to automate to drive the cost down so that we can continue to be competitive. Now is it as cheap as moving to Mexico with lower cost of labor? No. But we will make that plant competitive just because we'll make the capital investments there.

JIM CRAMER: Right.

GREG HAYES: But what that ultimately means is there will be fewer jobs.

The people doing the upgrades to the plant will have jobs building and installing the upgrades. The people making the automation equipment will have jobs. Its not a net loss of jobs but rather moving American jobs from one sector to another sector. The American suppliers of AC parts will have jobs rather than Mexican suppliers.

You actually have to think about this to fully understand it. I know that is hard for you and that its much easier to merely repeat talking points given to you by your masters.

But if you want to talk about automation, can we discuss what minimum wage increases have done for fast food automation?

What fast food automation?

kiosks where you order your food instead of a human being making $15/hr. You libs need to think about what you are asking for.

 

[Moonglow]

1100 could be correct, no one yet knows. Sorry if you are too dumb to understand that simple statement.

Giving a tax credit to a company does not "cost" the taxpayers anything. Those jobs will pay taxes to the state, and since they are working they will not cost the state unemployment payments, welfare, or food stamps. Its a net gain for the state treasury. That's why all states give tax incentives to companies to locate or stay in their state.

I get it that you hate Trump and will rant like a scalded ass ape about everything he does, But when you show your complete lack of knowledge on a topic like this it only confirms that you are an ignorant liberal asshole.

lol @ 1100 could be correct. No, it's not, will not, and never was, correct.

A tax break doesn't "cost" anything? The company enriches itself thanks to the society paid for by the taxpayers of Indiana, and yet doesn't have to pay for it? And that costs nothing? But sure, let the $40k-per-year working stiffs cover it while the CEOs skate.

He's really fighting for the little guy, huh?

You can't know what a tax break costs until you know how much the loss of these jobs and the added cost of social services would cost.

those calculations are not difficult. Liberals just don't want to see them.

Produce them then, I would love to peruse the content...
United Technologies Corp., Carrier's parent company, said it is raising prices for its heating, ventilation, and air conditioning equipment by up to 5%, starting January 1. The decision to raise prices was first announced on November 23, the week before the Trump deal was finalized.
The manufacturer that Trump convinced to keep 1,000 jobs in the US is raising prices

So, you on the left hate the carrier deal. Whether it saved 730 or 1100, or 6 is not the issue. You just hate it because Trump pulled it off. If obozo had done it, you fools would have been praising him and setting up alters to pray to him for more of the same.

Would you prefer that those jobs go to Mexico and the Americans be put on welfare and food stamps? What the fuck do you want?

Still waiting on those figures you claimed "liberals" didn't want to see...

 

[Redfish]

lol @ 1100 could be correct. No, it's not, will not, and never was, correct.

A tax break doesn't "cost" anything? The company enriches itself thanks to the society paid for by the taxpayers of Indiana, and yet doesn't have to pay for it? And that costs nothing? But sure, let the $40k-per-year working stiffs cover it while the CEOs skate.

He's really fighting for the little guy, huh?

You can't know what a tax break costs until you know how much the loss of these jobs and the added cost of social services would cost.

those calculations are not difficult. Liberals just don't want to see them.

Produce them then, I would love to peruse the content...
United Technologies Corp., Carrier's parent company, said it is raising prices for its heating, ventilation, and air conditioning equipment by up to 5%, starting January 1. The decision to raise prices was first announced on November 23, the week before the Trump deal was finalized.
The manufacturer that Trump convinced to keep 1,000 jobs in the US is raising prices

So, you on the left hate the carrier deal. Whether it saved 730 or 1100, or 6 is not the issue. You just hate it because Trump pulled it off. If obozo had done it, you fools would have been praising him and setting up alters to pray to him for more of the same.

Would you prefer that those jobs go to Mexico and the Americans be put on welfare and food stamps? What the fuck do you want?

Still waiting on those figures you claimed "liberals" didn't want to see...

check with the Indiana state treasurer. If it did not represent a net financial gain for the state, it would not have been done.

 

[Moonglow]

You can't know what a tax break costs until you know how much the loss of these jobs and the added cost of social services would cost.

those calculations are not difficult. Liberals just don't want to see them.

Produce them then, I would love to peruse the content...
United Technologies Corp., Carrier's parent company, said it is raising prices for its heating, ventilation, and air conditioning equipment by up to 5%, starting January 1. The decision to raise prices was first announced on November 23, the week before the Trump deal was finalized.
The manufacturer that Trump convinced to keep 1,000 jobs in the US is raising prices

So, you on the left hate the carrier deal. Whether it saved 730 or 1100, or 6 is not the issue. You just hate it because Trump pulled it off. If obozo had done it, you fools would have been praising him and setting up alters to pray to him for more of the same.

Would you prefer that those jobs go to Mexico and the Americans be put on welfare and food stamps? What the fuck do you want?

Still waiting on those figures you claimed "liberals" didn't want to see...

check with the Indiana state treasurer. If it did not represent a net financial gain for the state, it would not have been done.

There are none available..

 

[Moonglow]

So what do I hate about the Carrier deal again? I want to make sure I know how I feel by your standards of expression...Then in future you can tell me all about myself about any given subject with zero basis..

 

[Redfish]

those calculations are not difficult. Liberals just don't want to see them.

Produce them then, I would love to peruse the content...
United Technologies Corp., Carrier's parent company, said it is raising prices for its heating, ventilation, and air conditioning equipment by up to 5%, starting January 1. The decision to raise prices was first announced on November 23, the week before the Trump deal was finalized.
The manufacturer that Trump convinced to keep 1,000 jobs in the US is raising prices

So, you on the left hate the carrier deal. Whether it saved 730 or 1100, or 6 is not the issue. You just hate it because Trump pulled it off. If obozo had done it, you fools would have been praising him and setting up alters to pray to him for more of the same.

Would you prefer that those jobs go to Mexico and the Americans be put on welfare and food stamps? What the fuck do you want?

Still waiting on those figures you claimed "liberals" didn't want to see...

check with the Indiana state treasurer. If it did not represent a net financial gain for the state, it would not have been done.

There are none available..

Do you really think the state agreed to the deal without running the numbers?

 

[Redfish]

So what do I hate about the Carrier deal again? I want to make sure I know how I feel by your standards of expression...Then in future you can tell me all about myself about any given subject with zero basis..

since you are trashing it, the logical assumption is that you hate it. If not, fine.

 

[Moonglow]

So what do I hate about the Carrier deal again? I want to make sure I know how I feel by your standards of expression...Then in future you can tell me all about myself about any given subject with zero basis..

since you are trashing it, the logical assumption is that you hate it. If not, fine.

I didn't trash it at all, as I do not know the entire scope of the move and the future relations it has. I have no emotional investment in the outcome...

 

[RealDave]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

 

[Iceweasel]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

Why does the governor get blamed while obama doesn't? So every governor in every state is at fault if companies left? Makes no sense.

And show us where Trump actually lied, knowing the true figures and all.

 

[Redfish]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

there was no money "forked over". No payments were made to Carrier.
Future tax credits are not payments. Your ignorance is amazing.

Would you think it better for those American workers to go on unemployment, welfare, and food stamps? Who the hell do you think pays for those?

 

[Ted Frazier]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

there was no money "forked over". No payments were made to Carrier.
Future tax credits are not payments. Your ignorance is amazing.

Would you think it better for those American workers to go on unemployment, welfare, and food stamps? Who the hell do you think pays for those?

Future tax credits are payments, you stupid asswipe.

 

[Iceweasel]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

there was no money "forked over". No payments were made to Carrier.
Future tax credits are not payments. Your ignorance is amazing.

Would you think it better for those American workers to go on unemployment, welfare, and food stamps? Who the hell do you think pays for those?

Future tax credits are payments, you stupid asswipe.

Huh? How does that work in Libville? If you charge a preferred customer less then you are paying him?

 

[Redfish]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

there was no money "forked over". No payments were made to Carrier.
Future tax credits are not payments. Your ignorance is amazing.

Would you think it better for those American workers to go on unemployment, welfare, and food stamps? Who the hell do you think pays for those?

Future tax credits are payments, you stupid asswipe.

so if the govt cuts your income tax rate, they are paying you? Yeah, sure, only in the land of libtardia.

 

[RealDave]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

there was no money "forked over". No payments were made to Carrier.
Future tax credits are not payments. Your ignorance is amazing.

Would you think it better for those American workers to go on unemployment, welfare, and food stamps? Who the hell do you think pays for those?

Future tax credits are payments, you stupid asswipe.

so if the govt cuts your income tax rate, they are paying you? Yeah, sure, only in the land of libtardia.

It is a financial boon. I now have more money in my account than I would have without the cut.

Maybe you think the way you do because you never earned enough money to pay taxes.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is a financial boon. I now have more money in my account than I would have without the cut.

But, not because the government gave it to you. Thus, it is not a payment.

 

[RealDave]

It is a financial boon. I now have more money in my account than I would have without the cut.

But, not because the government gave it to you. Thus, it is not a payment.

Give me a break.

This idea that you whiners think there is really a financial difference between a discount & a rebate is ridiculous.

 

[Iceweasel]

Trump has always been a liar.

The real story is why didn't Pence do it as Governor? The State of Indiana forked over the bribe money.

Should we be crucifying Pence for sending these jobs to Mexico? Or did Pence, as Gov, already reject any suchj plan.

there was no money "forked over". No payments were made to Carrier.
Future tax credits are not payments. Your ignorance is amazing.

Would you think it better for those American workers to go on unemployment, welfare, and food stamps? Who the hell do you think pays for those?

Future tax credits are payments, you stupid asswipe.

so if the govt cuts your income tax rate, they are paying you? Yeah, sure, only in the land of libtardia.

It is a financial boon. I now have more money in my account than I would have without the cut.

Maybe you think the way you do because you never earned enough money to pay taxes.

But you would "have more money in your account" if you simply moved to a friendlier country. That's the point the left cannot understand.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is a financial boon. I now have more money in my account than I would have without the cut.

But, not because the government gave it to you. Thus, it is not a payment.

 

[Iceweasel]

It is a financial boon. I now have more money in my account than I would have without the cut.

But, not because the government gave it to you. Thus, it is not a payment.

Give me a break.

This idea that you whiners think there is really a financial difference between a discount & a rebate is ridiculous.

A rebate is when you get money back. If you don't send it in how do you get it back?