7 time felon held at gun point by his victims.....

[HereWeGoAgain]

You worry about your country's problem with millions of felons, both in jails and out walking the streets.

I'll concentrate on reminding 2A of the nearly 1000 mass shooting in America this year.

 

[Blaster]

I wonder if the couple will be charged for threatening Mr. Gonzalez with a firearm, and holding him in the condo against his will. I also wonder if charges will be brought for unlawful storing of the gun- it should have according to Chicago law been locked in a safe and unloaded so that it would be unavailable so quickly.

It's Chicago so who knows?

 

[Blaster]

 

[miketx]

The main problem is guns, which have caused America to have the world's highest incarceration rate, which in turn ensures that felons need to be released to make room for the new crop.

But still, the American way persists, as the mass shootings are going to equal close to a thousand incidents for this year!

Yeah right, it's the felons!

Filthy communist liar. Come get mine! You!

 

[M14 Shooter]

The main problem is guns...

^^^
This is a lie.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'll concentrate on reminding 2A of the nearly 1000 mass shooting in America this year.

^^^
This is a lie.

 

[miketx]

The main problem is guns, which have caused America to have the world's highest incarceration rate, which in turn ensures that felons need to be released to make room for the new crop.

But still, the American way persists, as the mass shootings are going to equal close to a thousand incidents for this year!

Yeah right, it's the felons!

Lying sack! Sleazy politicians keep letting them out of prison.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The main problem is guns, which have caused America to have the world's highest incarceration rate, which in turn ensures that felons need to be released to make room for the new crop.

But still, the American way persists, as the mass shootings are going to equal close to a thousand incidents for this year!

Yeah right, it's the felons!

The majority of gun violence and mass shootings are gang related, but the loons want to disarm law abiding citizens.

 

[Donald H]

The majority of gun violence and mass shootings are gang related, but the loons want to disarm law abiding citizens.

Be they gang related or not, it's the gun violence in America to which you refer. So even if your excuse for the gun violence is valid in some cases, it's still just an excuse.

And remember, the bad guy with a gun, was a good guy with a gun.
Or at least he was a good guy with a gun before he used his gun to commit a crime or murder with his gun.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Be they gang related or not, it's the gun violence in America to which you refer. So even if your excuse for the gun violence is valid in some cases, it's still just an excuse.

And remember, the bad guy with a gun, was a good guy with a gun.
Or at least he was a good guy with a gun before he used his gun to commit a crime or murder with his gun.

Disarm law abiding citizens, because criminals will give up their guns to right ?

 

[M14 Shooter]

And remember, the bad guy with a gun, was a good guy with a gun.
Or at least he was a good guy with a gun before he used his gun to commit a crime or murder with his gun.

You state this like it means something.

 

[Donald H]

Disarm law abiding citizens, because criminals will give up their guns to right ?

No, the guns can't be taken away from the good guys before they become bad guys.

Are you interested in a suggestion from a Canadian?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Be they gang related or not, it's the gun violence in America to which you refer. So even if your excuse for the gun violence is valid in some cases, it's still just an excuse.

And remember, the bad guy with a gun, was a good guy with a gun.
Or at least he was a good guy with a gun before he used his gun to commit a crime or murder with his gun.

Wrong gang members were never good guys as soon as they joined a criminal organization, the gang.

 

[Donald H]

Wrong gang members were never good guys as soon as they joined a criminal organization, the gang.

They were good guys before they joined and I suspect that nearly all of them had guns too before they joined.

In fact, they were all good guys when they were born, as is the popular opinion. Are you suggesting they became bad guys when they got their first BB gun?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

No, the guns can't be taken away from the good guys before they become bad guys.

Are you interested in a suggestion from a Canadian?

Canadians have never had a Constitutional right to bear arms, your opinion on a US citizens right doesn't hold much weight. As a law abiding citizen of the US I will never give up my right to bear arms.

 

[2aguy]

Be they gang related or not, it's the gun violence in America to which you refer. So even if your excuse for the gun violence is valid in some cases, it's still just an excuse.

And remember, the bad guy with a gun, was a good guy with a gun.
Or at least he was a good guy with a gun before he used his gun to commit a crime or murder with his gun.

That post is a lie as well....


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The Criminology of Firearms

The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.
While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."

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http://www.haciendapublishing.com/m...art-ii-gun-violence-and-constitutional-issues
Another favorite view of the gun control, public health establishment is the myth propounded by Dr. Mark Rosenberg, former head of the NCIPC of the CDC, who has written: "Most of the perpetrators of violence are not criminals by trade or profession. Indeed, in the area of domestic violence, most of the perpetrators are never accused of any crime. The victims and perpetrators are ourselves --- ordinary citizens, students, professionals, and even public health workers."(6)

That statement is contradicted by available data, government data. The fact is that the typical murderer has had a prior criminal history of at least six years with four felony arrests in his record before he finally commits murder.

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study finds that suspects in violent crime in the District share a lot of characteristics.

The National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform looked at the numbers for homicides and nonfatal shooting in D.C. in 2019 and 2020, and found that “most gun violence is tightly concentrated on a small number of very high-risk young Black male adults that share a common set of risk factors.”

Those factors include involvements in street crews, a previous criminal justice history and connection to a recent shooting. Often, they’ve been the victims of crime themselves. While the motive for the shooting “may not be a traditional gang war,” the report says, “often shootings are precipitated by a petty conflict over a young woman, a simple argument, or the now-ubiquitous social media slight.”
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More than 90% of victims and suspects in 2019 and 2020 were male and about 96% were Black.

The study also found that another 86% of victims and suspects have been involved with the criminal justice system and the average age of victims is 31, while the average age of suspects is 27 years old.

They found that, in terms of prior arrests, “victims and suspects were remarkably similar.”

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Bonus content.......the actual study...

About 96 percent of victims and suspects in both homicides and nonfatal shootings were Black, despite Black residents comprising only 46 percent of the overall population in the District (Table 1).
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Approximately 86 percent of homicide victims and suspects were known to the criminal justice system prior to the incident. Among all victims and suspects, about 46 percent had been previously incarcerated (Figure 2).
At least 23.3 percent of all homicide victims and suspects were under active supervision (i.e., CSOSA, PSA, or DYRS)1. At least 64 percent of all victims and suspects had been under any prior or active supervision and at least 76% of homicide suspects had active or prior supervision.
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Overall, most victims and suspects with prior criminal offenses had been arrested about 11 times for about 13 different offenses by the time of the homicide. This count only refers to adult arrests and juvenile arrests were not included.
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In Washington, DC, most gun violence is tightly concentrated on a small number of very high risk young Black male adults that share a common set of risk factors, including: involvement in street crews/groups; significant criminal justice history including prior or active community supervision; often prior victimization; and a connection to a recent shooting (within the past 12 months).
While the majority of people involved in shootings, as victim or suspect, are members or associates of street groups/gangs, the motive for the shooting may not be a traditional gang war. Often shootings are precipitated by a petty conflict over a young woman, a simple argument, or the now ubiquitous social media slight.
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This small number of very high risk individuals are identifiable, their violence is predictable, and therefore it is preventable. Based on the assessment of data and the series of interviews conducted, NICJR estimates that within a year, there are at least 500 identifiable people who rise to this level of very high risk, and likely no more than 200 at any one given time. These individuals comprise approximately 60-70% of all gun violence in the District. Nealy 250 specific individuals were identified through the GVPA process but more importantly, the risk factors that make someone at very high risk has been identified in order to develop an on-going process to focus intervention efforts on those at very high risk.

https://cjcc.dc.gov/sites/default/f... Violence Problem Analysis Summary Report.pdf
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27 Statistics That Describe How Criminals Use and Obtain Illegal Firearms - Tier Three TacticalThe vast majority of violent crime in the US occurs amongst those that live a criminal lifestyle. In fact, this study showed that the average homicide victim, in Boston, over a four year period, had been criminally charged themselves an average of 12 times prior to their death.
This doesn’t mean that they are good or bad people, or that they are somehow less deserving of justice, but it does mean they were no strangers to crime themselves. As they say, violence begets violence.
That particular study also broke down the circumstances that lead to their death. In total, 66.5% of the situations were gang related, and 15.9% were drug related. Only 13.1% were a personal dispute, with less than 5% between robbery and domestic violence combined.
Now this is only relevant to Boston during the years of 2010-2014, but I would be surprised if Chicago, Baltimore, or other violent areas are much different.
This leads us, inevitably, to the conclusion that reducing violent crime and keeping guns off the streets is best tackled as a multifaceted problem. Making guns extra illegal, or changing their appearance will do nothing to prevent someone from buying a gun illegally and using it to settle a score.

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The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions​

The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions
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[Donald H]

Canadians have never had a Constitutional right to bear arms,

No, you're wrong.

your opinion on a US citizens right doesn't hold much weight.

You have a right to your opinion.

As a law abiding citizen of the US I will never give up my right to bear arms.

If you are a good guy with a gun and you don't become a bad guy with a gun, your guns won't be taken from you.

If laws are enacted that limit your choice of guns then if you refuse to surrender said guns, you will have become a *bad guy.

*(qualified)

 

[M14 Shooter]

No, you're wrong.

When did the constitution of Canada include and protect a right of the people to keep and bear arms?
Cite your proof and copy/paste the test to that end.

If laws are enacted that limit your choice of guns then if you refuse to surrender said guns, you will have become a *bad guy.

You have a right to your opinion.

.

 

[2aguy]

No, you're wrong.

You have a right to your opinion.

If you are a good guy with a gun and you don't become a bad guy with a gun, your guns won't be taken from you.

If laws are enacted that limit your choice of guns then if you refuse to surrender said guns, you will have become a *bad guy.

*(qualified)

If laws are enacted that limit your choice of guns then if you refuse to surrender said guns, you will have become a *bad guy.


Yes....exactly...when the socialists in Germany declared that Jews could not own guns, the Jews obviously became the bad guys.........right?

 

[Donald H]

That post is a lie as well....

I think that your attitude and temperament alone makes you a dangerous person with guns.

You've never expressed any compassion for the children who are murdered with guns in mass shootings by good guys who became bad guys only when they pulled the trigger.