6 fake Democrats force Wis. primaries in recalls targeting incumbent GOP seats over u

[DaGoose]

"Perhaps you missed the thread which examples how a school distrrict turned a deficit into a surplus because of Walker's legislation and can now HIRE new teachers...

Check it out! "

Thats ONE district. And I would like to see the teachers new working conditions now before I judge that. Did they mess with the salary structure of veteran teachers? What about the possibility of retirement? Are they going to let a teacher go JUST before they are to retire? What kind of protections to the good teachers have? Suppose one set of parents wants an effective teacher fired because their child messed up? What kind of protections are in place for the good teachers? ANswer: NONE. Nobody can answer that because there are none. If your principal likes you for whatever reason you are kept but if you are an effective teacher but your principal dislikes you then you are on the street. Good effective teachers have zero in their corner, nothing. These are the facts folks.

Since you state all those 'facts', shall we assume you are a teacher in that district in question? Or, are you just making shit up?

I know a lot of teachers (including my wife) and I can attest that those facts are right on the money.

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[Too Tall]

BULLSHIT.

It is anti-democratic, anti-American, reprehensible, dishonest, unethical and the actions of a sleaze.

I'm guessing you've never worked in election politics.

Whether or not it is all those things you listed, it (or similarly shady things) happen in every election you've ever heard of. Including every politician you've ever voted for.

Name one person, one election, one time a Democrat entered a Republican Primary as a means to commit fraud. Name one.

Calling it fraud is rather silly. Are you suggesting that it is a felony for a Republican to run as a Democrat?

In the State of Georgia on at least two occasions the Democrats ran a 'ringer' for Governor and won. In 1962 the Republican got the most popular votes, but lacked the 50% + 1 vote to win since the Democrats ran both a candidate and a popular former governor as a write-in candidate. The Democrat controlled legislature then elected the Democrat with the most votes on a party line vote.

 

[Dr.House]

"And this whole thing could have been avoided in the first place had the GOP stopped with simply increasing what the public union employees had to pay for benefits. But no, they had to push the envelope and take away their rights to collective bargaining.

So now they are seeing voter backlash and the GOP is squealing like a stuck pig (or elephant).

So as we are seeing now the voters are going to toss out some Sentaors on their fat, lazy asses.

And after the voters are done with them the Governor will be next as soon as the law allows. "

This sums up the WHOLE ENTIRE MESS. Perfectly said. The state is now headed on a downward spiral much like the middle class. Glad I'm retired and not having to face the nightmare young workers in this state are now going to face. Low wages, low expectations. Another indiana and ohio.

Perhaps you missed the thread which examples how a school distrrict turned a deficit into a surplus because of Walker's legislation and can now HIRE new teachers...

Check it out!

Somebody has checked it out:

But here’s the thing: The collective bargaining ban, in and of itself, was not responsible for achieving these savings and this surplus. As the Appleton Post Crescent reports, the teachers union had already offered up financial concessions that would have produced almost identical savings and an almost identical surplus.

What’s more, the use of this one district to declare Walker’s policies a success is almost comical in its cherry-picking. There are 424 school districts in Wisconsin, and as the AP recently noted, Walker’s policies mean draconian budget cuts to 410 of them, with labor officials and school districts predicting increased class sizes and layoffs.

Walker’s premature declaration of victory — and the right wing echo chamber’s flacking of it — could look awfully silly when the full bill for his policies really comes due. And the notion that this one school district’s fiscal success is in any way a referendum on the most controversial aspect of Walker’s union busting proposal is laughable.

Scott Walker's bogus `mission accomplished' moment - The Plum Line - The Washington Post

A washington compost blog "checked it out"....

TFF



As I said, give it time, fucknut...

 

[Too Tall]

This is standard operating procedure. Politics is a shady business.

BULLSHIT.

It is anti-democratic, anti-American, reprehensible, dishonest, unethical and the actions of a sleaze.

Guess where they got the idea from!

The Times says: “In Nevada, conservative radio listeners have heard an advertisement promoting the Senate campaign of a “Tea Party of Nevada” candidate, Scott Ashjian. The ads criticize Sharron Angle, the Republican nominee and favored candidate of the actual Tea Party movement in the race against Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader. “

The paper claims that unions, casinos and mining companies backing Reid are financing Ashjian to undermine Angle’s campaign.

The Times examined several key races they indicated this stealth third party ploy was underway, including:

California: Democratic Palm Springs Mayor Steve Pougnet has paid for an automated recording that calls Republican voters and purports to be from a registered GOP voter. The unidentified voter reveals she is voting for Bill Lussenheide of the American Independent Party, rather than GOP incumbent Rep. Mary Bono Mack, because Lussenheide is a “true conservative.”

Pennsylvania: Volunteers for Democratic House candidate Bryan Lentz in Pennsylvania aided conservative Jim Schneller in his effort to join the race, turning it into a three-way contest with Republican Pat Meehan.

Florida: Candidates listed as having tea party affiliations are running, even though they have been exposed as having no legitimate tea party supporting them.

Michigan: Fake tea party candidates tried to run for two House seats and a number of state offices. Democratic Party officials were linked to the candidacies, and the candidates were declared ineligible.

New Jersey: Republican House candidate Jon Runyan has a “Stop The Fake Tea Party” appeal on his political website. It states: “Polls indicate that Jon Runyan and career politician John Adler are locked in a dead heat as we head in to election day. Realizing that New Jersey’s 3rd district is tired of the reckless, out of control expansion of government and explosion of debt in Washington DC, John Adler and the Democrat Political Machines in New Jersey and DC have taken this campaign in to the gutter, resorting to baseless attacks and fraud to hold on to this seat. Adler and his cronies have even installed a fake tea party candidate to keep Jon Runyan from winning this seat.”



Read more on Newsmax.com: New York Times: Democrats Backing Fake Tea Party Candidates
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

 

[rdean]

"And this whole thing could have been avoided in the first place had the GOP stopped with simply increasing what the public union employees had to pay for benefits. But no, they had to push the envelope and take away their rights to collective bargaining.

So now they are seeing voter backlash and the GOP is squealing like a stuck pig (or elephant).

So as we are seeing now the voters are going to toss out some Sentaors on their fat, lazy asses.

And after the voters are done with them the Governor will be next as soon as the law allows. "

This sums up the WHOLE ENTIRE MESS. Perfectly said. The state is now headed on a downward spiral much like the middle class. Glad I'm retired and not having to face the nightmare young workers in this state are now going to face. Low wages, low expectations. Another indiana and ohio.

Perhaps you missed the thread which examples how a school distrrict turned a deficit into a surplus because of Walker's legislation and can now HIRE new teachers...

Check it out!

They already had teachers. Why would anyone with a degree want to work for minimum wage? I mean, except in Red States where the degrees are in "Bible Memorization". On your degree, you get a "Gold Star". You'll never guess how many right wingers thought it was "real gold".

 

[del]

:WTF:
Well I for one am relieved that the DNC would NEVER stoop to such levels and interfere with the primaries of the GOP! Oh, perish the thought.

Well, they DIDN'T in this case. It's only the Wis GOP which pulled this crap.

unwad your panties, dearie.

it's politics, not bean bag.

 

[NoNukes]

:WTF:
Well I for one am relieved that the DNC would NEVER stoop to such levels and interfere with the primaries of the GOP! Oh, perish the thought.

And the DNC has in the past pulled stuff. The point is we are in the present and the GOP was suppose to be the saviors of fiscal responsibility to the state of Wisconsin. This will hurt them more than help them.

Poor idiot child, Republicans admitted putting up these fake Democrats. This wasn't the Democrats choice, but Republican choice FOR Democrats. You guys are so dumb, seriously, how do you keep from tying your shoes together in the morning?

Republicans wear loafers.

 

[DaGoose]

And the DNC has in the past pulled stuff. The point is we are in the present and the GOP was suppose to be the saviors of fiscal responsibility to the state of Wisconsin. This will hurt them more than help them.

Poor idiot child, Republicans admitted putting up these fake Democrats. This wasn't the Democrats choice, but Republican choice FOR Democrats. You guys are so dumb, seriously, how do you keep from tying your shoes together in the morning?

Republicans wear loafers.

Most Democrats I know wear work boots, not loafers.

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[Wry Catcher]

I'm guessing you've never worked in election politics.

Whether or not it is all those things you listed, it (or similarly shady things) happen in every election you've ever heard of. Including every politician you've ever voted for.

Name one person, one election, one time a Democrat entered a Republican Primary as a means to commit fraud. Name one.

Calling it fraud is rather silly. Are you suggesting that it is a felony for a Republican to run as a Democrat?

In the State of Georgia on at least two occasions the Democrats ran a 'ringer' for Governor and won. In 1962 the Republican got the most popular votes, but lacked the 50% + 1 vote to win since the Democrats ran both a candidate and a popular former governor as a write-in candidate. The Democrat controlled legislature then elected the Democrat with the most votes on a party line vote.

If true the Democrats engaged in fraud. However, I 'googled' and couldn't find anything to verify your allegation. Apparently in 1962 the County Voting system was ruled unconstitutional and changed the way primaries were held for nearly a century.

Provide some evidence that this event happened as you reported, I suspect you actually meant the 1966 election of Lester Maddox, see:

New Georgia Encyclopedia: Gubernatorial Election of 1966

A rather convoluted election and one which does not appear to prove your case.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This is standard operating procedure. Politics is a shady business.

BULLSHIT.

It is anti-democratic, anti-American, reprehensible, dishonest, unethical and the actions of a sleaze.

Guess where they got the idea from!

The Times says: “In Nevada, conservative radio listeners have heard an advertisement promoting the Senate campaign of a “Tea Party of Nevada” candidate, Scott Ashjian. The ads criticize Sharron Angle, the Republican nominee and favored candidate of the actual Tea Party movement in the race against Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader. “

The paper claims that unions, casinos and mining companies backing Reid are financing Ashjian to undermine Angle’s campaign.

The Times examined several key races they indicated this stealth third party ploy was underway, including:

California: Democratic Palm Springs Mayor Steve Pougnet has paid for an automated recording that calls Republican voters and purports to be from a registered GOP voter. The unidentified voter reveals she is voting for Bill Lussenheide of the American Independent Party, rather than GOP incumbent Rep. Mary Bono Mack, because Lussenheide is a “true conservative.”

Pennsylvania: Volunteers for Democratic House candidate Bryan Lentz in Pennsylvania aided conservative Jim Schneller in his effort to join the race, turning it into a three-way contest with Republican Pat Meehan.

Florida: Candidates listed as having tea party affiliations are running, even though they have been exposed as having no legitimate tea party supporting them.

Michigan: Fake tea party candidates tried to run for two House seats and a number of state offices. Democratic Party officials were linked to the candidacies, and the candidates were declared ineligible.

New Jersey: Republican House candidate Jon Runyan has a “Stop The Fake Tea Party” appeal on his political website. It states: “Polls indicate that Jon Runyan and career politician John Adler are locked in a dead heat as we head in to election day. Realizing that New Jersey’s 3rd district is tired of the reckless, out of control expansion of government and explosion of debt in Washington DC, John Adler and the Democrat Political Machines in New Jersey and DC have taken this campaign in to the gutter, resorting to baseless attacks and fraud to hold on to this seat. Adler and his cronies have even installed a fake tea party candidate to keep Jon Runyan from winning this seat.”



Read more on Newsmax.com: New York Times: Democrats Backing Fake Tea Party Candidates
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

If all of these are true then fraud was in play. I don't condone it and IMO those who engage in fraud do so because they are unable to provide a sound argument to win. It is as reprehensible as those who use scurrilous attacks as a means to win.

btw, the link(?) you provided isn't a link.