6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[Stann]

Why did Hegseth and Trump cover up the second shot, blowing up the two individuals that the Admiral made ...and not immediately court martial him for his clear crime, when they viewed the videos? It was a war crime, plain as day.

Trump and Hegseth had to see the videos the day it happened, Sept2nd, yet they covered it up.....? Why would they do that...if it was not A-OK with them?

They most likely took this extreme action because they blew up a regular boat with no drugs on board. They couldn't allow any witnesses / survivors. Why else would they do it ? No other explanation is plausible. They aren't that crazy or stupid. I hope the whole truth comes out. Today trump already started distancing himself from Hegseth. That tells me trump is partly responsible. The coward is trying to get away with shit again

 

[Care4all]

Right ! LOL ! This is definitely a screw up of major proportions and a very poor cover They probably weren't even drug smugglers just more innocent victims of this insanity.

My gut and observations were screaming when viewing the video at the time that something just didn't seem right... Why would they need or use 11 guys on a small boat to transport drugs...? Every one of those guy's weight could have been more cocaine in weight to transport...? It just didn't fit what I would have imagined, and I said so at the time, in one of the threads on it....

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well now it's all under a Congressional investigation because Hegseth commited war crimes. They should have warned him sooner.

Oh boy. Now we're already at the part where we're leaping to conclusions. Casting aspersions.

 

[Stann]

My gut and observations were screaming when viewing the video at the time that something just didn't seem right... Why would they need or use 11 guys on a small boat to transport drugs...? Every one of those guy's weight could have been more cocaine in weight to transport...? It just didn't fit what I would have imagined, and I said so at the time, in one of the threads on it....

Totally agree. A cover up is underway. I hope the republicans understand that this time.

 

[Stann]

Oh boy. Now we're already at the part where we're leaping to conclusions. Casting aspersions.

You try to explain it any other way.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You try to explain it any other way.

I will, when the actual facts come out.

 

[Stann]

I will, when the actual facts come out.

I hope to GOD all the facts come out..we know there were 11 people on that boat. After the first strike the boat was nothing but debris and 2 people were still alive clinging to it. There was no reason whatsoever to send a second strike. We abide by the Geneva Convention and the military also has their own military regulations about this type situation and you don't murder helpless people. It's a war crime. If they don't come to that conclusion we will know that the law was circumvented by trump again it's been covered up too long already.

 

[forkup]

actually the commander on the scene ordered the second strike not the sec of war get your facts straight

Don't look now but the Trump administration is deciding to kill people because they claim they are "narco-terrorists" without proof they are or for that matter congressional oversight. Trump is immune thanks to the Supreme court. What happens to admiral Doe when a judge finds the orders illegal?

Their career and freedom are just as gone if they are deemed to have committed murder. I also think that the penalty is heftier.

In any case. It's clear you have no problem with them taking that risk.

It's amazing how profetic these posts where. Less then 2 weeks after people like you blew your mind over lawmakers saying that military personnel should disobey illegal orders. You are now arguing that military personnel and military personnel only should be liable for issuing those illegal orders.

I hope your handle does not actually signal military service because the glee with wich you are willing to throw them under the bus in defense of a political nominee is both mind-blowing and at the same time depressingly predictable. The MAGA movement is so beyond even the pretense of shame.

What would an actual Gunnery Sergeant say to a guy who says that he believes political appointees at their word even if it means that soldiers are on the hook for potential murder charges?

 

[Stann]

It's amazing how profetic these posts where. Less then 2 weeks after people like you blew your mind over lawmakers saying that military personnel should disobey illegal orders. You are now arguing that military personnel and military personnel only should be liable for issuing those illegal orders.

I hope your handle does not actually signal military service because the glee with wich you are willing to throw them under the bus in defense of a political nominee is both mind-blowing and at the same time depressingly predictable. The MAGA movement is so beyond even the pretense of shame.

Follow the leader , trump doesn't know what shame or remorse is.. no conscience at all.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why did Hegseth and Trump cover up the second shot, blowing up the two individuals that the Admiral made ...and not immediately court martial him for his clear crime, when they viewed the videos? It was a war crime, plain as day.

Trump and Hegseth had to see the videos the day it happened, Sept2nd, yet they covered it up.....? Why would they do that...if it was not A-OK with them?

wrong it is standard practice to fire a second time if the target was not destroyed with the first shot retard

 

[Care4all]

wrong it is standard practice to fire a second time if the target was not destroyed with the first shot retard

Wrong, the first target was destroyed but two men survived, which they witnessed.

Under LAW, if there are survivors of an attack at sea by us with no remaining deadly threat, our Military was REQUIRED to rescue them and give medical treatment, and take them as prisoners of War.

It is the admin that is claiming this is a war....blah blah blah... There are rules in treaties they are a signed party to that govern, and our own Military code that govern...and BOTH dictate that what they did with their second strike, with two survivors clinging to the destroyed boat wreckage, was a WAR CRIME.

Period.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Wrong, the first target was destroyed but two men survived, which they witnessed.

Under LAW, if there are survivors of an attack at sea by us with no remaining deadly threat, our Military was REQUIRED to rescue them and give medical treatment, and take them as prisoners of War.

It is the admin that is claiming this is a war....blah blah blah... There are rules in treaties they are a signed party to that govern, and our own Military code that govern...and BOTH dictate that what they did with their second strike, with two survivors clinging to the destroyed boat wreckage, was a WAR CRIME.

Period.

wrong in war one can destroy the enemy there is no requirement to show mercy.

 

[Stann]

wrong it is standard practice to fire a second time if the target was not destroyed with the first shot retard

Absolutely wrong. It is NOT standard practice to murder survivors which pose no threat. To act this way they were covering up something. That's the only answer. War crimes are not committed by US troops.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Absolutely wrong. It is NOT standard practice to murder survivors which pose no threat. To act this way they were covering up something. That's the only answer. War crimes are not committed by US troops.

look you reject from the military it is standard practice to finish the destruction of a target once fired on or do you think we are in the business of not destroying our enemies? Name one time in naval warfare where we stopped firing an enemy craft because it took damage but was not destroyed and provide a link to that claim.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

look you reject from the military it is standard practice to finish the destruction of a target once fired on or do you think we are in the business of not destroying our enemies? Name one time in naval warfare where we stopped firing an enemy craft because it took damage but was not destroyed and provide a link to that claim.

so you can't provide a link to this right?

 

[Stann]

look you reject from the military it is standard practice to finish the destruction of a target once fired on or do you think we are in the business of not destroying our enemies? Name one time in naval warfare where we stopped firing an enemy craft because it took damage but was not destroyed and provide a link to that claim.

The boat was reduced to debris which two men were clinging to. It was a war crime to bomb them again.We abide by the Geneva Convention. This was awar crime. The only question now is who will go to prison or be executed for it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The boat was reduced to debris which two men were clinging to. It was a war crime to bomb them again.We abide by the Geneva Convention. This was awar crime. The only question now is who will go to prison or be executed for it.

sorry you are wrong as usual retard.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Under LAW,

LOL
As if you know.

if there are survivors of an attack at sea by us with no remaining deadly threat, our Military was REQUIRED to rescue them and give medical treatment, and take them as prisoners of War.

There is no responsibility to rescue until the engagement is over.
The engagement was not over until the 2nd missile strike, which destroyed the boat.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

LOL
As if you know.

There is no responsibility to rescue until the engagement is over.
The engagement was not over until the 2nd missile strike, which destroyed the boat.

these retards are ignorant as hell ask them to link to any time in a naval engagement where we stopped firing case the ship took damage but wasn't sunk

 

[Stann]

sorry you are wrong as usual retard.

No you are absolutely wrong. The facts support my conclusion. A blind man could see that.You called me a reject. You are as big a pickup as Hegseth is. You and he should have both been kicked out of the military. The UCMJ and the Geneva Convention are the foundations our military stands on. You have no honor.