6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[OldFlame]

OK, we'll agree to disagree.

Until and unless the administration coughs up proof that the plans for Venezuela amount to a "national defense," I'll stick with the constitution.

So all they have to do is wait to blow them up once they hit US waters.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Democrats make a video telling servicemen something they already know.

Wooo! Big victory for the Democrats!!

Trump correctly interpreted this video as suborning dissent / mutiny in the military by inciting servicemen to question the legal orders they have been given. Suborning/inciting mutiny of the military is a serious crime that might well lead to the death penalty.
Did Trump need to lead with that? Nope. But he's not wrong.

When Trump given the order to machinegun schoolbuses full of children, this video will have relevance.
When Trump orders the NG into Portland or Seattle or whenever to support federal law enforcement, it doesn't
And while Demcorats pray for the former, they will be happy with servicemen questioning the latter.
Thus, their video.

"Illegal orders" violate military law and there is no question they are illegal - their illegality is obvious right now.
If the order is being debated in the courts, they are not the illegal orders servicemen have a duty to not obey -- specifically, the order to deploy where you are told to deploy is not an illegal order.

 

[TNHarley]

Were you lying when you said this, or just talking out your ass?

Naw I was kiddin. One other time he told the truth was when he said it was sunny outside and there wasnt any clouds.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Then why would Trump want to hang members of Congress who said that soldiers shouldn’t obey illegal orders?

And why do they think thats an excellent idea?

 

[MisterBeale]

So all they have to do is wait to blow them up once they hit US waters.

Even at the founding of our nation we had lots of folks, both foreign and native, that broke U.S. trade laws.

The closest I remember to the U.S. government serving out lethal force w/o a trial upon black marketeers, was T.J.'s war on the Barbary pirates.

An Act for the Protection of Commerce of the U.S. in the Mediterranean, passed by the Senate February 1, 1802 | U.S. Capitol - Visitor Center

www.visitthecapitol.gov

But. . that action was condoned by congress, so there isn't any legal question about that one.

Typically U.S. drug interdiction consists of apprehension first if possible, and then a trial.

www.state.gov/eradication-and-interdiction/

 

[Zincwarrior]

See post 145.

Its a nonsensical post.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The article I posted (if you had bothered to read it) noted 170 citizens illegally detained/arrested.

Out of how many arrests? Let's see it.

Quit making excuses. Quit supporting it.

Soooooo.........

You don't have the quote.

Proving (once again) you make stuff up.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Its a nonsensical post.

You only say that because you know you have no capacity to meaningfully address it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Its a nonsensical post.

Typical one-line response on your part.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Typical one-line response on your part.

Its a concession of the point.

 

[struth]

Stating the obvious is not seditious so like the Democrats it's all grandstanding and sadly people support this while things all around are falling apart.

Who ruled the orders were unlawful? Nobody,

Sedition is defined as incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority. 6 Dems saying they don't like something and inciting the military to resist their commander in chief and the chain of command because the don't like a policy is sedition.

 

[pknopp]

Out of how many arrests? Let's see it.

Again, irrelevant.

Soooooo.........

You don't have the quote.

Proving (once again) you make stuff up.

You just did it again.

 

[Lesh]

Good. That's the point. Maybe the next time a soldier is told to target a boat in the Caribbean with a drone he or she will ask themselves, "Wait, is this legal?"

Exactly

And they should

 

[HikerGuy83]

Its a concession of the point.

He doesn't even understand the point.

We execute innocent people......so stop capital punishment.

You know what......I am willing to live with an error (but not the abuse of the system which has taken place).

Nothing is perfect.

There are innocent people in jail and guilty people walking free.

Does that idiot pknopp want to kill the criminal justice system?

 

[toobfreak]

You believe all that.

Just more performance art by a professional contrarian. The military don't need reminding of anything from those six slobs. Those six could not cut one day in the military. It is not up to every person in the military to question every order sent them; for one thing, they are not remotely qualified. Constitutional EXPERTS argue over the meaning of this or that before the Supreme Court, so HOW THE HELL is a lieutenant or corporal or even a Major or Colonel expected to determine the constitutional "legality" of an order?

It is the job of command to do that. When an order comes down from the POTUS or from a general, etc., if there is any question of legality, it is determined then by special attorneys for the military, not even by command per se. Once an order hits the troops, it is their duty to merely obey.

It would have to be blatantly crazy insanely wrong for a soldier to question an order and refuse to carry it out. Ironically, these six idiots in congress are actually plainly guilty of committing the very thing the Left have only tried to accuse Trump of doing on J6, so, if they can justify these six's actions, then they can no longer attack Trump for sending his rally crowd to the Capitol in support of Pence.

If there is any actual legal question in a command, it is usually determined and resolved later. It is the absolute epitome of ignorance to suppose that every soldier in the field can and must review the constitutionality of every order before carrying it out. Aside from assuming any soldier even HAS that skill, knowledge and authority, no military can operate on the basis where every order is questioned first before being carried out.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Again, irrelevant.




You just did it again.

I hope your tail is comfortable being tucked between your legs.

You are a lair, gutless and ignorant.

You are improving.

 

[Skull]

Thirty year JAG officer clarifies this Democrat chatter:

30-Year JAG Veteran Schools Democrats for Video Calling for Sedition in the Military

 

[schmidlap]

Which is right about your speed, schmidflap, a pop psychological study.


Is that why most Americans gladly and wholeheartedly voted for Trump and welcome him with open arms and recruitment lines for the military and ICE are around the block? Get this shithead: America is tired of you creeps and they have kicked you to the sideline, which is why you are here instead whining, moaning and pissing.

Most Americans did not vote for Trump, "gladly" or otherwise.

In the 2024 election, there was a 64.1% turnout, and 49.8% voted for Trump.

Trump's approval level has now fallen to 42.5%, while 55.6% disapprove.

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This thread's this thread'a title is a lie. No one called for an "insurrection" against the unpopular Trump.

No American who has sworn an oath to the United States Constitution should ever follow illegal orders issued by any politician, nor should anyone be executed for reminding Americans of their patriotic duty.

 

[pknopp]

Who ruled the orders were unlawful? Nobody,

And no one said they were.

Judges are questioning recent actions but we will have to let that play out.

Judge rules Trump's National Guard deployment to D.C. is illegal

A federal judge ruled Thursday that President Trump's months-long deployment of thousands of National Guard forces to the streets of Washington, D.C., violates federal law.

www.cbsnews.com

Sedition is defined as incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority. 6 Dems saying they don't like something and inciting the military to resist their commander in chief and the chain of command because the don't like a policy is sedition.

Spin all you want. They clearly (and redundantly) noted illegal.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Did Democrats commit sedition, and do they deserve to die for calling for members not to follow unlawful orders.

The answer to the first question answers the second (as per law).

To determine committing sedition you have to have a trial.