51% Of American Muslims Want Sharia... (NOT in All Caps Now..)

[Kristian]

I belief only Moses(Allah or God) justice with ours but now I wonder only Lord is the only one higher exemple in heaven and help every he will help with belief or speak. Not everyone he will to help with beliefs. Moses maybe will every to belief if he exist. But I wonder only Lord to help them he willings. He will no every to belief on he. I am only atheist if Moses do not exist. Lord is cruel against me.

 

[Kristian]

Lord help me with speak only.

 

[NYcarbineer]

99% of RWnuts think America is a Christian nation, and want the laws to be adjusted accordingly...

...aka the Christian version of Sharia.

Christians do not call for the murder of non Christians,

Nor do secularists who want the insanity of religion out of the rationality of governance.

 

[MaryL]

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I never have to name the Regressive Left by name, they're always more than willing to jump in and self-identify for me.


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No, you won't name them because you're a coward who doesn't want to debate your accusations directly with the people you're accusing.

Unlike most of you, I find this issue painful and pointless. Coward I may be, but cynical to the point of yawning at your reply. Vindictive and nasty, I am not, either. We need to transcend these mind games and fix our political system instead of playing this infantile blame game.

 

[Mac1958]

I never have to name the Regressive Left by name, they're always more than willing to jump in and self-identify for me.

No, you won't name them because you're a coward who doesn't want to debate your accusations directly with the people you're accusing.

Unlike most of you, I find this issue painful and pointless. Coward I may be, but cynical to the point of yawning at your reply. Vindictive and nasty, I am not, either. We need to transcend these mind games and fix our political system instead of playing this infantile blame game.

You'll note that, just as I described, and right on cue, he jumped in and self-identified for me. This happens constantly. I've reached a point where I believe they literally can't help themselves.

My own version of the blame game is that it's the narcissistic hardcore partisan ideologues on both ends who are the problem. They are louder, nastier, and far more willing to say and do pretty much anything for political advantage. It's them against everyone else.

The rest of us - the majority - have to deal with the effects of their behaviors.
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[Contumacious]

I never have to name the Regressive Left by name, they're always more than willing to jump in and self-identify for me.

No, you won't name them because you're a coward who doesn't want to debate your accusations directly with the people you're accusing.

Unlike most of you, I find this issue painful and pointless. Coward I may be, but cynical to the point of yawning at your reply. Vindictive and nasty, I am not, either. We need to transcend these mind games and fix our political system instead of playing this infantile blame game.

You'll note that, just as I said, and right on cue, he jumped in and self-identified for me. This happens constantly. I've reached a point where I believe they literally can't help themselves.

My own version of the blame game is that it's the narcissistic hardcore partisan ideologues on both ends who are the problem. They are louder, nastier, and far more willing to say and do pretty much anything for political advantage. It's them against everyone else.

The rest of us - the majority - have to deal with the effects of their behaviors.
.

Yes , the blame game indeed -


the Liberals want to blame firearms


the "conservatives" want to blame the "islamofascists"

No one wants to blame


The Pachyderm in the Room


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[flacaltenn]

We're a secular nation.

Yep.

Duh Donuld notwithstanding, a particular religion will never be banned in the US.

Eat your hearts out fascist trumpkins.


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I don't care for Trump, but you do remember 9/11, the worst ever attack on American soil perpetrated by anyone, was perpetrated by Islamic neofacistism? Oh, Not all muslims are the same? Oh, how do we go about proving that? We are just supposed to be as naïve as we were on 9/10/01?

You can prove it by noting that 19 Muslims carried out the 9/11 attacks,

and 2 billion didn't.

And less than 20% of Germans identified with the Nazi party at the HEIGHT of it's popularity. And your point is?

There are over 40 Islamic terror orgs listed by the Government. And your problems are

A) They range in location all over the globe, not in a single country the size of Germany.

B) There is a rate among Muslim countries of about 15% Condoning or agreeing with radical Muslim causes. Since you're a leftist -- I'll do the math.. 2.5B * 0.15 = 375 MILLION adherents. Where does that rank on the list of countries by population?

C) You have at least 3 monied Arab states that charter these groups and fund them and direct them as their own proxy armies. Doing their dirty bidding in about 10 current hot zones of killing and destruction..

D) Our policies in the Mid-East from Reagan to Obama have made the situation MUCH worse. Most of those latter years from 1990 on -- we were bombing about 4 Arab countries a year. Or holding the keys to the Iraqi economy for 10 years and bombing them almost daily. And NOW -- there are gaping ruins all over that area that are breeding grounds for the 40+ Terrorist Orgs that want to kill us. We let the ISIS leadership out of OUR jails in Iraq. And we literally gave them their heavy equipment and arms that we left in Iraq.. It is a story of MONUMENTAL stupid foreign policy that never got better with the next Admin..

YOU -- because you are a leftist and can't see the threat -- grab at anything to MINIMIZE this threat. You can't help it because your sense of self-preservation has been bred right the **** out of your soul. So don't be surprised when you aggravate people by dumbly trying to minimize or dismiss the threat.

Stop farting around with trying to downplay this -- it just doesn't fly and it's not going away..

You obviously don't know what my beliefs are, which would be a very good reason for you to stop making them up.

All of those facts and numbers and analysis was about the FAULTY reasoning BEHIND your beliefs. You know the stuff you HAVE to cite to justify them -- even if their willingly stupid or wrong.

No comment on the 375MILLION Muslim adherents that like themselves some extreme Jihad? Got a convenient way to continue to MINIMIZE that with brain farts like "only 19 muslims out of 3Bill carried out 9-11" ???

 

[FA_Q2]

Well thought out and presented, I think, flacaltenn.

I was getting headaches from all the shouting around me. It's getting loud and nasty and in a lot of cases --- foolish. It really is a deficit in CULTURE, not a defect of Islam.
I have no doubts that Judaism, Islam, Christianity can all be practiced peacefully in cultures that dont

REQUIRE tyrants to keep down the bloodshed.
Live with perpetual tribe on tribe, sect on sect violence.
Make RELIGIOUS law dominant over Civil law or incorporate large portions of it.
Perceive a RIGHT to be free from being offended or uncomfortable in their morals/ethics.

This this and more this. You are right on the money here. The scary thing is that this very idea is becoming accepted in our nation and being pushed as a societal obligation.

It is this concept that leads to the inability to accept or live with those that are different than you.

 

[FA_Q2]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the ******* wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

" The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact"

The only time a government bureaucrats utters that cliche is when he/she is getting ready to USURP authority


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Bingo.

Every single time I have heard that statement it has been used to justify ignoring the constitution.

 

[Contumacious]

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the ******* wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

" The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact"

The only time a government bureaucrats utters that cliche is when he/she is getting ready to USURP authority


,

Bingo.

Every single time I have heard that statement it has been used to justify ignoring the constitution.

yep, that 's the scam.

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[FA_Q2]

99% of RWnuts think America is a Christian nation, and want the laws to be adjusted accordingly...

...aka the Christian version of Sharia.

---------------------------- Christian derived law is a heck of a lot better that Islamic shariah derived law . And you or your kids may find that out sometime in the future Carbineer .

We're a secular nation.

Yep.

Duh Donuld notwithstanding, a particular religion will never be banned in the US.

Eat your hearts out fascist trumpkins.


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I don't care for Trump, but you do remember 9/11, the worst ever attack on American soil perpetrated by anyone, was perpetrated by Islamic neofacistism? Oh, Not all muslims are the same? Oh, how do we go about proving that? We are just supposed to be as naïve as we were on 9/10/01?

You can prove it by noting that 19 Muslims carried out the 9/11 attacks,

and 2 billion didn't.

Of course you are ignoring that those 19 were supported by terrorist networks that span nations and include many more than 19 people, ignore the myriad governments that supply both support and financial aid to those groups and the many more that support such groups actions.

To ignore the fact that there is a very clear problem within Islam today is asinine. That does not mean that all Muslims are bad, evil or should be treated as such. It does not mean that Islam itself is either bad or needs to cease to exist. It DOES mean that Islam is dealing with an internal struggle with extremism and violence that it needs to solve though.

 

[FA_Q2]

Well, no one would post the actual poll, so, of course, I had to find it myself.

Now I'm not surprised why no one posted it:

Trump Calls for Ban on Muslims, Cites Deeply Flawed Poll

Ill note that while your cite is interesting and more likely to be factual than the OP IMHO it is also NOT a link to the actual poll...

 

[flacaltenn]

I never have to name the Regressive Left by name, they're always more than willing to jump in and self-identify for me.

No, you won't name them because you're a coward who doesn't want to debate your accusations directly with the people you're accusing.

Unlike most of you, I find this issue painful and pointless. Coward I may be, but cynical to the point of yawning at your reply. Vindictive and nasty, I am not, either. We need to transcend these mind games and fix our political system instead of playing this infantile blame game.

You'll note that, just as I said, and right on cue, he jumped in and self-identified for me. This happens constantly. I've reached a point where I believe they literally can't help themselves.

My own version of the blame game is that it's the narcissistic hardcore partisan ideologues on both ends who are the problem. They are louder, nastier, and far more willing to say and do pretty much anything for political advantage. It's them against everyone else.

The rest of us - the majority - have to deal with the effects of their behaviors.
.

Yes , the blame game indeed -


the Liberals want to blame firearms


the "conservatives" want to blame the "islamofascists"

No one wants to blame


The Pachyderm in the Room


.

Don't misunderstand us. We are GRATEFUL you are on that case. Lord knows the Jews put that iceberg there for the Titanic to run into..

It's really a shame because you and I agree COMPLETELY on how sucky US Mid East policy has been for 50 or 60 years. But since you think the Feds are so competent and smart and strategic --- you just can't fathom why they do the same stupid shit over and over again.. Must be some evil plan. Because they are responsive and brilliant and all that...

I blame Putin for not embarrasing Kerry and Obama more often on ME policy... But then -- you can't trust me -- I COULD be a surviving PNAC operative..

 

[Contumacious]

I never have to name the Regressive Left by name, they're always more than willing to jump in and self-identify for me.

No, you won't name them because you're a coward who doesn't want to debate your accusations directly with the people you're accusing.

Unlike most of you, I find this issue painful and pointless. Coward I may be, but cynical to the point of yawning at your reply. Vindictive and nasty, I am not, either. We need to transcend these mind games and fix our political system instead of playing this infantile blame game.

You'll note that, just as I said, and right on cue, he jumped in and self-identified for me. This happens constantly. I've reached a point where I believe they literally can't help themselves.

My own version of the blame game is that it's the narcissistic hardcore partisan ideologues on both ends who are the problem. They are louder, nastier, and far more willing to say and do pretty much anything for political advantage. It's them against everyone else.

The rest of us - the majority - have to deal with the effects of their behaviors.
.

Yes , the blame game indeed -


the Liberals want to blame firearms


the "conservatives" want to blame the "islamofascists"

No one wants to blame


The Pachyderm in the Room


.

Don't misunderstand us. We are GRATEFUL you are on that case. Lord knows the Jews put that iceberg there for the Titanic to run into..

It's really a shame because you and I agree COMPLETELY on how sucky US Mid East policy has been for 50 or 60 years. But since you think the Feds are so competent and smart and strategic --- you just can't fathom why they do the same stupid shit over and over again.. Must be some evil plan. Because they are responsive and brilliant and all that...

I blame Putin for not embarrasing Kerry and Obama more often on ME policy... But then -- you can't trust me -- I COULD be a surviving PNAC operative..

But since you think the Feds are so competent and smart and strategic ---

HUH?

That's definitely not me, sir.

Did you mean to respond to righwinger, skylar, Comrade Starkiev......

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[FA_Q2]

No, you won't name them because you're a coward who doesn't want to debate your accusations directly with the people you're accusing.

Unlike most of you, I find this issue painful and pointless. Coward I may be, but cynical to the point of yawning at your reply. Vindictive and nasty, I am not, either. We need to transcend these mind games and fix our political system instead of playing this infantile blame game.

You'll note that, just as I said, and right on cue, he jumped in and self-identified for me. This happens constantly. I've reached a point where I believe they literally can't help themselves.

My own version of the blame game is that it's the narcissistic hardcore partisan ideologues on both ends who are the problem. They are louder, nastier, and far more willing to say and do pretty much anything for political advantage. It's them against everyone else.

The rest of us - the majority - have to deal with the effects of their behaviors.
.

Yes , the blame game indeed -


the Liberals want to blame firearms


the "conservatives" want to blame the "islamofascists"

No one wants to blame


The Pachyderm in the Room


.

Don't misunderstand us. We are GRATEFUL you are on that case. Lord knows the Jews put that iceberg there for the Titanic to run into..

It's really a shame because you and I agree COMPLETELY on how sucky US Mid East policy has been for 50 or 60 years. But since you think the Feds are so competent and smart and strategic --- you just can't fathom why they do the same stupid shit over and over again.. Must be some evil plan. Because they are responsive and brilliant and all that...

I blame Putin for not embarrasing Kerry and Obama more often on ME policy... But then -- you can't trust me -- I COULD be a surviving PNAC operative..

But since you think the Feds are so competent and smart and strategic ---

HUH?

That's definitely not me, sir.

Did you mean to respond to righwinger, skylar, Comrade Starkiev......

.

How else would they be able to pull off a conspiracy of the proportions that your video mentions?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Well, no one would post the actual poll, so, of course, I had to find it myself.

Now I'm not surprised why no one posted it:

Trump Calls for Ban on Muslims, Cites Deeply Flawed Poll

Ill note that while your cite is interesting and more likely to be factual than the OP IMHO it is also NOT a link to the actual poll...

Yes it is. You have to click through the links in my link.

 

[bripat9643]

99% of RWnuts think America is a Christian nation, and want the laws to be adjusted accordingly...

...aka the Christian version of Sharia.

The problem is in Muslim controlled countries, they kill people they disagree with it's a right and privilege to do so. Name and show somewhere in Jesus's teachings he tells Christians do in the same? And be specific...
Knock the deflecting off Jack ass

Who do they kill in Indonesia?

Islamic State Claims Deadly Indonesia Attacks

 

[NYcarbineer]

99% of RWnuts think America is a Christian nation, and want the laws to be adjusted accordingly...

...aka the Christian version of Sharia.

The problem is in Muslim controlled countries, they kill people they disagree with it's a right and privilege to do so. Name and show somewhere in Jesus's teachings he tells Christians do in the same? And be specific...
Knock the deflecting off Jack ass

Who do they kill in Indonesia?

Islamic State Claims Deadly Indonesia Attacks

The Indonesian government does not condone those attacks. It is not a right or privilege Indonesia to kill people you disagree with.

 

[Seawytch]

99% of the conservative Christians on this board defended Kim Davis when she tried to use her religion to assert a right to circumvent the Constitution.

That is how it goes with those people.

Businesses have a right to refuse business to anyone for any reason. That's not circumventing the constitution, that's you apparently not knowing what Constitutional rights are. Nobody has a right to force a business to serve them. If they refuse you, go to their competitor.

You are ignorant on the subject. Businesses cannot refuse to serve anyone for any reason.

That can, so long as they aren't owned by the government. In some cases, they're not allowed to tell you what that reason is, but they ARE allowed to refuse service to anyone for any reason. They usually don't, because they'd lose customers to their competitors, but they're allowed.

No, they can't...and haven't been able to since the 1960s. Title II of the Civil Rights Act. Oh, and it's been challenged all the way to the SCOTUS. Can you guess the final ruling? Public Accommodation laws, which say you can't refuse service to anyone for any reason, are constitutional.

Oh, that's cute, you think you know things. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 prevents discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. If you don't tell them your reason to deny the service, then yes, you can deny service for ALL of those reasons. The right of public accommodation is also guaranteed to disabled citizens under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which prohibits discrimination by private businesses based on disability, but again, you can deny service for those reasons, too, as long as it's not stated and it isn't store policy. The refusal just can't be arbitrary, and you can't just apply it to one group of people, and there must be a reason. As stated before, you don't have a right to force people to serve you.

This site explains it well enough.

You went a really long way to avoid admitting you were wrong. You were wrong, plain and simple. You can't deny service "to anyone for any reason" as you claimed.

 

[Redfish]

Now you, Turzovka, engage in a fallacy of false assertions and continue out right false witnesses. You have every right to propose laws, but they must fit with the Constitution. Your foes, most of whom are Christian, tell you that you cannot rule by the Bible. Majority rules when it is Constitutional. That is your issue: we live in a republic not a democracy.

Redfish is hooked again and gasping for air.

minority rights were established by majority votes. you are wrong, the majority does rule

Only through an amendment or if SCOTUS agrees. The way it is, skippy.

BS, the constitution and bill of rights established minority rights, they were ratified by majority vote. That's the way it is "skippy"