400 Americans

[georgephillip]

It's a pant laod because it presupposes the notion that NO ONE earns anything

It presupposes nothing of the kind. Capitalism has created a planet of slums by destroying subsistence agriculture and crafting terms of trade unfavorable to rural life. Since 2007 more than half the world's population has been living in cites radically decoupled from industrialization. The capitalists have "earned" their fortunes and could not care less about the surplus population left in their wake.
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[JoeNormal]

The wars in the middle east have nothing to do with capitalism.

Exactly. Just like arms sales and oil sales have nothing to do with capitalism.

That's too ambiguous. Arms sales and oil sales don't define the system they are sold in. If government sells them, it's not capitalism. If they are sold in free markets than it is. You still seem confused by what is done and the system it is done in.

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

 

[Dot Com]

Since you cant define it how do you know it didnt work?

can't define it here you go skippy

Trickle-down economics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that "trickle-down economics" had been tried before in the United States in the 1890s under the name "horse and sparrow theory." He wrote, "Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy—what an older and less elegant generation called the horse-and-sparrow theory: 'If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.'"

 

[Dot Com]

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

no, they think of capitalism as their religion.

 

[JoeNormal]

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

no, they think of capitalism as their religion.

True unfortunately.

 

[georgephillip]

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated

The morality of Mammon:
"Tehran is a city the size of Los Angeles, with thrust faults like Los Angeles," Dr. [Kerry] Sieh [a veteran seismologist at the California Institute of Technology] said. 'In Los Angeles the next 7.5 quake might kill 50,000 people. In Tehran, that would kill more than a million people.' (Andrew C. Revkin, 'The Future of Calamity,' New York Times, January 2, 2005)"

"The ruling class obsession with short-term cost-and-benefit calculations and disregard for long-term human, ecological, and even economic consequences compounds nature's upheavals."

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[orogenicman]

Erm, so the 400 wealthiest Americans can't create more jobs because Obama extended their tax cuts? Well, then, let's cut out that tax break altogether and see if they can create more jobs that way.

OK so instead of having onerous regulations and some kind of tax relief we'll have onerous regulations AND confiscatory taxes. Brilliant!
You understand the Bush tax cuts expired, right? And growth still sucks and the middle class still has stagnating income. Why would you want to replicate failure?

3.9% GDP is not bad. Better than at just about any time during the Bush administration.

Wait just a minute....You people are bitching and moaning about the wealthy being too wealthy. Now you've come up for air and now you're playing the "Obama the greatest job creator in history" card.
Which is it?

The Buffet family is one of the wealthiest families in the country, and yet they can't pay their people a living wage. You tell me why that is.

Who is the Buffet family? Are they the people who own all those buffets? Of course they dont pay much. How much skill does it take to manage a buffet? Hell, you dont even need waiters.

They own Walmart, among other holdings, dude.

 

[The Rabbi]

The wars in the middle east have nothing to do with capitalism.

Exactly. Just like arms sales and oil sales have nothing to do with capitalism.

That's too ambiguous. Arms sales and oil sales don't define the system they are sold in. If government sells them, it's not capitalism. If they are sold in free markets than it is. You still seem confused by what is done and the system it is done in.

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Joe, you are a raging paranoiac with fantasies of conspiracy. Why would anyone take your comments seriously?

 

[The Rabbi]

Since you cant define it how do you know it didnt work?

can't define it here you go skippy

Trickle-down economics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that "trickle-down economics" had been tried before in the United States in the 1890s under the name "horse and sparrow theory." He wrote, "Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy—what an older and less elegant generation called the horse-and-sparrow theory: 'If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.'"

As I said, you cannot define it. Ergo you dont know whether is succeeded or failed.

 

[The Rabbi]

OK so instead of having onerous regulations and some kind of tax relief we'll have onerous regulations AND confiscatory taxes. Brilliant!
You understand the Bush tax cuts expired, right? And growth still sucks and the middle class still has stagnating income. Why would you want to replicate failure?

3.9% GDP is not bad. Better than at just about any time during the Bush administration.

Wait just a minute....You people are bitching and moaning about the wealthy being too wealthy. Now you've come up for air and now you're playing the "Obama the greatest job creator in history" card.
Which is it?

The Buffet family is one of the wealthiest families in the country, and yet they can't pay their people a living wage. You tell me why that is.

Who is the Buffet family? Are they the people who own all those buffets? Of course they dont pay much. How much skill does it take to manage a buffet? Hell, you dont even need waiters.

They own Walmart, among other holdings, dude.

Dude, you dont have the slightest ******* clue what you aer talking about. Not a shred. Why should someone take you seriously?

 

[JoeNormal]

The wars in the middle east have nothing to do with capitalism.

Exactly. Just like arms sales and oil sales have nothing to do with capitalism.

That's too ambiguous. Arms sales and oil sales don't define the system they are sold in. If government sells them, it's not capitalism. If they are sold in free markets than it is. You still seem confused by what is done and the system it is done in.

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Joe, you are a raging paranoiac with fantasies of conspiracy. Why would anyone take your comments seriously?

You're a sociopath. Of course being a sociopath, you won't see anything wrong with that.

 

[Iceweasel]

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Until recently Americans have enjoyed an increasingly higher standard of living. That's dropped off and you liberal socialist idiots think capitalism is at fault. Or Reagan. Or Bush, or anything but an honest assessment of the situation. Hurting business doesn't help economies, it illogical. Economies don't sprout up through government soil, it comes from productivity.

Big businesses do better today because they have merged and gone global, averaging in those numbers with worker salaries misses the point, probably on purpose. Capitalism is what made this country great and for some bizarre reasons liberals think destroying it will improve the economy.

No, not the average liberal, they are too dim witted to understand, they simply repeat what they see from leftist sources, but those pulling the strings know exactly what they are doing and useful idiots have never been more receptive.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

It should be shared equally with all sandinistas !!! Rise up comrades !!!

 

[The Rabbi]

The wars in the middle east have nothing to do with capitalism.

Exactly. Just like arms sales and oil sales have nothing to do with capitalism.

That's too ambiguous. Arms sales and oil sales don't define the system they are sold in. If government sells them, it's not capitalism. If they are sold in free markets than it is. You still seem confused by what is done and the system it is done in.

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Joe, you are a raging paranoiac with fantasies of conspiracy. Why would anyone take your comments seriously?

You're a sociopath. Of course being a sociopath, you won't see anything wrong with that.

You know this because?
Oh yeah, you dont. It just sounds good so you say it.
Say, Joe. How many villages have corporations bombed today?

 

[orogenicman]

3.9% GDP is not bad. Better than at just about any time during the Bush administration.

Wait just a minute....You people are bitching and moaning about the wealthy being too wealthy. Now you've come up for air and now you're playing the "Obama the greatest job creator in history" card.
Which is it?

The Buffet family is one of the wealthiest families in the country, and yet they can't pay their people a living wage. You tell me why that is.

Who is the Buffet family? Are they the people who own all those buffets? Of course they dont pay much. How much skill does it take to manage a buffet? Hell, you dont even need waiters.

They own Walmart, among other holdings, dude.

Dude, you dont have the slightest ******* clue what you aer talking about. Not a shred. Why should someone take you seriously?

Erm, Warren Buffet does not own Walmart? Gee, when did that happen?

 

[The Rabbi]

Wait just a minute....You people are bitching and moaning about the wealthy being too wealthy. Now you've come up for air and now you're playing the "Obama the greatest job creator in history" card.
Which is it?

The Buffet family is one of the wealthiest families in the country, and yet they can't pay their people a living wage. You tell me why that is.

Who is the Buffet family? Are they the people who own all those buffets? Of course they dont pay much. How much skill does it take to manage a buffet? Hell, you dont even need waiters.

They own Walmart, among other holdings, dude.

Dude, you dont have the slightest ******* clue what you aer talking about. Not a shred. Why should someone take you seriously?

Erm, Warren Buffet does not own Walmart? Gee, when did that happen?

Geezus. Buddy, you are way too ******* stupid to engage. Sorry, dude. That's just how it is.

 

[JoeNormal]

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Until recently Americans have enjoyed an increasingly higher standard of living. That's dropped off and you liberal socialist idiots think capitalism is at fault. Or Reagan. Or Bush, or anything but an honest assessment of the situation. Hurting business doesn't help economies, it illogical. Economies don't sprout up through government soil, it comes from productivity.

Big businesses do better today because they have merged and gone global, averaging in those numbers with worker salaries misses the point, probably on purpose. Capitalism is what made this country great and for some bizarre reasons liberals think destroying it will improve the economy.

No, not the average liberal, they are too dim witted to understand, they simply repeat what they see from leftist sources, but those pulling the strings know exactly what they are doing and useful idiots have never been more receptive.

You said it yourself but are apparently too stupid to realize it. Productivity has increased something like 3 fold since the 70's yet the average wage has stagnated. Not the top wage though, that's skyrocketed. Could that have something to do with the top wage earners diverting that productivity increase into their own hands? I'm sure that point will be lost on you as well.

 

[The Rabbi]

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Until recently Americans have enjoyed an increasingly higher standard of living. That's dropped off and you liberal socialist idiots think capitalism is at fault. Or Reagan. Or Bush, or anything but an honest assessment of the situation. Hurting business doesn't help economies, it illogical. Economies don't sprout up through government soil, it comes from productivity.

Big businesses do better today because they have merged and gone global, averaging in those numbers with worker salaries misses the point, probably on purpose. Capitalism is what made this country great and for some bizarre reasons liberals think destroying it will improve the economy.

No, not the average liberal, they are too dim witted to understand, they simply repeat what they see from leftist sources, but those pulling the strings know exactly what they are doing and useful idiots have never been more receptive.

You said it yourself but are apparently too stupid to realize it. Productivity has increased something like 3 fold since the 70's yet the average wage has stagnated. Not the top wage though, that's skyrocketed. Could that have something to do with the top wage earners diverting that productivity increase into their own hands? I'm sure that point will be lost on you as well.

Top earners who are employees lack the ability to do that as their compensation is set by others.
Try again.

 

[JoeNormal]

Exactly. Just like arms sales and oil sales have nothing to do with capitalism.

That's too ambiguous. Arms sales and oil sales don't define the system they are sold in. If government sells them, it's not capitalism. If they are sold in free markets than it is. You still seem confused by what is done and the system it is done in.

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Joe, you are a raging paranoiac with fantasies of conspiracy. Why would anyone take your comments seriously?

You're a sociopath. Of course being a sociopath, you won't see anything wrong with that.

You know this because?
Oh yeah, you dont. It just sounds good so you say it.

The signs are there for all to see. I would be interested in knowing where you draw the line - or if there's even a line to be drawn. Hiring a hit man conforms to the rules of capitalism. There's demand and there's someone to meet that demand with supply. Do you find anything wrong with that type of transaction?

 

[The Rabbi]

That's too ambiguous. Arms sales and oil sales don't define the system they are sold in. If government sells them, it's not capitalism. If they are sold in free markets than it is. You still seem confused by what is done and the system it is done in.

I think it's great that you and Rabbi can excuse any level of immorality by wrapping it in the veil of capitalism and then raising capitalism to the state of a law of nature which cannot be violated. I'll bet that makes moral decisions really simple, just the way you like 'em.

Joe, you are a raging paranoiac with fantasies of conspiracy. Why would anyone take your comments seriously?

You're a sociopath. Of course being a sociopath, you won't see anything wrong with that.

You know this because?
Oh yeah, you dont. It just sounds good so you say it.

The signs are there for all to see. I would be interested in knowing where you draw the line - or if there's even a line to be drawn. Hiring a hit man conforms to the rules of capitalism. There's demand and there's someone to meet that demand with supply. Do you find anything wrong with that type of transaction?

You're kidding, right?