40 Years of Class Warfare in One Chart.

[danielpalos]

I believe some on the left should advance a Cause, regarding the class warfare of willful appeals to ignorance of the law in any office of public Trust under the authority of Any of the several and sovereign States and under the authority of the United States.

 

[sealybobo]

Have you read what the socialists did to their country?

How has capitalism affected suicide rates in the former "socialist" states of eastern Europe?

And it seems like things are getting better for workers in other countries as its getting worse for us.

We should only be doing free trade with countries like us. Not India China and mexico.

 

[danielpalos]

I guess capitalism is only somewhat useful, to the right.

 

[sealybobo]

Whether you want to be in a union or not you should defend unions because they bring all our wages up.

I'm sure that many a CEO would disagree.

Yea because if he doesnt have to give 30 people a $1000 then he gets the $30,000

I just got a really good job. Best one I ever had. I hope I never forget how shitty things are for the rest of america. I would hope to be more like henry ford mark zuckerberg bill gates or warren buffet and not like Herman Cain or the loch brothers.

Here's what I find from small business owners. They have to screw their workers to make any money. Working for small business owners sucks. I dont blame small business owners either. They're taking all the risk. But if the company blows up so should the employees salaries. Or remember Microsoft gave stock to employees in the beginning and they all became rich?

I work for an international manufacturer. A real company that pays people what they are worth. If it was a small american company they'd be paying half of what they offered me and there would be 90% turnover every 5 years. Its the american business model. They dont value the employees

 

[Andylusion]

Have you read what the socialists did to their country?

How has capitalism affected suicide rates in the former "socialist" states of eastern Europe?

LOL Are you serious! Did anyone else catch what this fruit just did?

40 Years of Class Warfare in One Chart. Page 23 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Leftist: "Capitalist cause dirty air and blaw blaw blaw"

40 Years of Class Warfare in One Chart. Page 23 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Me: "What about the worst ecological disasters in human history caused by non-capitalists?" List off 3 examples.

Lefitst: (from the above) "...... um......... [insert anti-capitalist propaganda picture] And what about suicide?"

LOL..... Wow..... See, I keep wondering why I haven't put him on my ignore list, and then he does something this absolutely hilarious, and I remember why I haven't ignored him. Too funny!

That was priceless.

Hey georgie boy.... you want empty rhetoric? Ok no problem. I'll give you some.

 

[sealybobo]

I guess capitalism is only somewhat useful, to the right.

Free market unregulated right wing capitalism says the workers are cogs anyone can do it and we are never productive enough for them.

You aren't a salesperson you're just a telemarketer.

 

[Andylusion]

Have you read what the socialists did to their country?

How has capitalism affected suicide rates in the former "socialist" states of eastern Europe?

And it seems like things are getting better for workers in other countries as its getting worse for us.

We should only be doing free trade with countries like us. Not India China and mexico.

Yeah, no one else should be able to improve their standard of living, except for us. There's nothing selfish and arrogant about that.

 

[danielpalos]

I guess capitalism is only somewhat useful, to the right.

Free market unregulated right wing capitalism says the workers are cogs anyone can do it and we are never productive enough for them.

You aren't a salesperson you're just a telemarketer.

some on the left believe we merely Use capitalism for all of its worth.

 

[georgephillip]

But between the two fundamental economic systems, Socialism is a million times more destructive than Capitalism has ever been.

"In the early 1960s,[14] the Soviet government decided the two rivers that fed the Aral Sea, the Amu Darya in the south and the Syr Darya in the east, would be diverted to irrigate the desert, in an attempt to grow rice, melons, cereals, and cotton.

"This was part of the Soviet plan for cotton, or 'white gold', to become a major export. This temporarily succeeded, and in 1988, Uzbekistan was the world's largest exporter of cotton.[15]"

Aral Sea - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

e: "What about the worst ecological disasters in human history caused by non-capitalists?" List off 3 examples.

"The Great Pacific garbage patch, also described as the Pacific trash vortex, is a gyre of marine debrisparticles in the central North Pacific Ocean located roughly between135°W to 155°W and 35°N and42°N.[1] The patch extends over an indeterminate area, with estimates ranging very widely depending on the degree of plastic concentration used to define the affected area."
Who do you blame for this, Fruitcake,
socialism or capitalism?
Maybe you should try a new alias and avatar again since you're still stuck on stupid.
Great Pacific garbage patch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Andylusion]

e: "What about the worst ecological disasters in human history caused by non-capitalists?" List off 3 examples.

"The Great Pacific garbage patch, also described as the Pacific trash vortex, is a gyre of marine debrisparticles in the central North Pacific Ocean located roughly between135°W to 155°W and 35°N and42°N.[1] The patch extends over an indeterminate area, with estimates ranging very widely depending on the degree of plastic concentration used to define the affected area."
Who do you blame for this, Fruitcake,
socialism or capitalism?
Maybe you should try a new alias and avatar again since you're still stuck on stupid.
Great Pacific garbage patch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Which does not change anything I said. Thanks for stopping by. You are now bouncing around from topic to topic, without answering any of the charges given. Of course, I knew you'd do this because you can't answer.

And as for this.... I suppose in your world it is absolutely impossible any of the trash out there, could be from socialist countries? You know where every single bit of garbage came from? You went out and checked every item?

Of course not. You have no idea. Nice talking to you.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

defend unions because they bring all our wages up..

too stupid does not know that the higher wages are paid by higher prices so no net benefit is possible

Bullshit. My dad saved a million bucks working 30 years at ford.

Yes, he made a lot of money that he ripped off from non union folks who had to pay higher prices for cars.

 

[georgephillip]

Which does not change anything I said. Thanks for stopping by. You are now bouncing around from topic to topic, without answering any of the charges given. Of course, I knew you'd do this because you can't answer.

Of course, I knew you couldn't respond intelligently to any of my questions so go back to your crib before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

 

[georgephillip]

And as for this.... I suppose in your world it is absolutely impossible any of the trash out there, could be from socialist countries? You know where every single bit of garbage came from? You went out and checked every item?

"There are no strong scientific data concerning the origins of pelagicplastics.[dubious – discuss][citation needed] The figure that an estimated 80% of the garbage comes from land-based sources and 20% from ships is derived from an unsubstantiated estimate.[13] According to a 2011 EPA report, "The primary source of marine debris is the improper waste disposal or management of trash and manufacturing products, including plastics (e.g., littering, illegal dumping) ... Debris is generated on land at marinas, ports, rivers, harbors, docks, and storm drains. Debris is generated at sea from fishing vessels, stationary platforms and cargo ships."[14] Pollutants range in size from abandoned fishing nets to micro-pellets used in abrasive cleaners.[15] Currents carry debris from the west coast of North America to the gyre in about six years,[16] and debris from the east coast of Asia in a year or less.[17][18] An international research project led by Dr. Hideshige Takada of Tokyo University of Agriculture and Technology studying plastic pellets, or nurdles, from beaches around the world may provide further clues about the origins of pelagic plastic."
I'm thinking capitalists are more responsible for those nurdles than socialists, you?
Great Pacific garbage patch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Andylusion]

And as for this.... I suppose in your world it is absolutely impossible any of the trash out there, could be from socialist countries? You know where every single bit of garbage came from? You went out and checked every item?

"There are no strong scientific data concerning the origins of pelagicplastics.[dubious – discuss][citation needed] The figure that an estimated 80% of the garbage comes from land-based sources and 20% from ships is derived from an unsubstantiated estimate.[13] According to a 2011 EPA report, "The primary source of marine debris is the improper waste disposal or management of trash and manufacturing products, including plastics (e.g., littering, illegal dumping) ... Debris is generated on land at marinas, ports, rivers, harbors, docks, and storm drains. Debris is generated at sea from fishing vessels, stationary platforms and cargo ships."[14] Pollutants range in size from abandoned fishing nets to micro-pellets used in abrasive cleaners.[15] Currents carry debris from the west coast of North America to the gyre in about six years,[16] and debris from the east coast of Asia in a year or less.[17][18] An international research project led by Dr. Hideshige Takada of Tokyo University of Agriculture and Technology studying plastic pellets, or nurdles, from beaches around the world may provide further clues about the origins of pelagic plastic."
I'm thinking capitalists are more responsible for those nurdles than socialists, you?
Great Pacific garbage patch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yeah, it takes a strong mind to copy-paste a wiki page. Good thing you did some 'deep' research on the topic.

 

[Andylusion]

Which does not change anything I said. Thanks for stopping by. You are now bouncing around from topic to topic, without answering any of the charges given. Of course, I knew you'd do this because you can't answer.

Of course, I knew you couldn't respond intelligently to any of my questions so go back to your crib before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Says the guy who already made a fool of himself.

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah, it takes a strong mind to copy-paste a wiki page. Good thing you did some 'deep' research on the topic

PlasticsEurope - China leads Global Plastics Production while Europe ranks second - PlasticsEurope
Are capitalists more likely responsible for global plastic production than socialists?

 

[sealybobo]

defend unions because they bring all our wages up..

too stupid does not know that the higher wages are paid by higher prices so no net benefit is possible

Bullshit. My dad saved a million bucks working 30 years at ford.

Yes, he made a lot of money that he ripped off from non union folks who had to pay higher prices for cars.

You think when a CEO lowers wages he passes the savings onto you?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

defend unions because they bring all our wages up..

too stupid does not know that the higher wages are paid by higher prices so no net benefit is possible

Bullshit. My dad saved a million bucks working 30 years at ford.

Yes, he made a lot of money that he ripped off from non union folks who had to pay higher prices for cars.

You think when a CEO lowers wages he passes the savings onto you?

of course if he does not a competitor will and he will go bankrupt.
Competition forces prices lower and lower until companies go out of business. Its very very competitive and requires incredible intelligence, work, and stamina to be the best in the world? Can you imagine if you had that responsibility?

 

[Andylusion]

defend unions because they bring all our wages up..

too stupid does not know that the higher wages are paid by higher prices so no net benefit is possible

Bullshit. My dad saved a million bucks working 30 years at ford.

Yes, he made a lot of money that he ripped off from non union folks who had to pay higher prices for cars.

You think when a CEO lowers wages he passes the savings onto you?

Yes.... Of course. There's a reason Honda and Toyota did not go bankrupt, but GM and Chrysler did.

If the Honda and Toyota cars had been forced up in price, then GM and Chrysler would have never gone bankrupt.

Toyota and Honda forced auto prices down, which they could do and still be profitable, because they didn't have expensive Union labor.

GM and Chrysler had no choice but to be price competitive, which because their labor was too high, caused them to be unprofitable.

It's is specifically because Toyota and Honda could lower their prices, because they had lower labor costs, that caused the bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler.

So clearly, they did pass on that lower cost. Yes. The answer to your question, is yes.

And by the way, after the bankruptcy, with both GM and Chrysler moving away from Union labor, is how they are continuing to be in business. So, again..... yes. The answer is YES.