4 shot, including 16 year old girl, at party in Manchester, England.....but....gun control?

[2aguy]

Gang shootings at parties..........they keep telling us that British gun control stops this sort of thing...but what they don't tell you is that the breakdown of British families and culture is creating a gang culture that is not afraid of the traditional British Bobbie, does not respect British culture, and now sees violence....and more and more, gun fire......as just part of gang life...

A 16-year-old girl was among four people hurt during a shooting at an engagement party in Manchester, police have said.

Police were called just after 1am on Sunday following reports of four people arriving at hospital with apparent gunshot wounds.



One man, 54, is being treated for serious injuries to his arm, and a 48-year-old man is in a serious condition and has undergone surgery.

A 27-year-old woman and a 16-year-old girl were also injured in the incident. “It is unclear whether this is a result of a gunshot, debris from the discharge, or from the disturbance at the scene,” Greater Manchester police (GMP) said in a statement.

The 16-year-old has since been discharged from hospital.

Greater Manchester police said: “It appears the group had been at an engagement party at an address on Birch Hall Lane in Longsight, where a large amount of people had gathered. We believe at some point, shortly before 1am, an altercation took place, possibly in the garden, and it’s been reported five gunshots were fired. A scene is currently in place and officers are working to establish the circumstances of what has happened.

Four people injured during shooting incident at Manchester party

One man has serious injuries and another is in serious condition after shots fired at engagement party in Longsight, say police

www.theguardian.com

 

[miketx]

Wanna stop murder? Kill the murderers.

 

[JoeBlow]

Gang shootings at parties..........they keep telling us that British gun control stops this sort of thing...but what they don't tell you is that the breakdown of British families and culture is creating a gang culture that is not afraid of the traditional British Bobbie, does not respect British culture, and now sees violence....and more and more, gun fire......as just part of gang life...

A 16-year-old girl was among four people hurt during a shooting at an engagement party in Manchester, police have said.

Police were called just after 1am on Sunday following reports of four people arriving at hospital with apparent gunshot wounds.



One man, 54, is being treated for serious injuries to his arm, and a 48-year-old man is in a serious condition and has undergone surgery.

A 27-year-old woman and a 16-year-old girl were also injured in the incident. “It is unclear whether this is a result of a gunshot, debris from the discharge, or from the disturbance at the scene,” Greater Manchester police (GMP) said in a statement.

The 16-year-old has since been discharged from hospital.

Greater Manchester police said: “It appears the group had been at an engagement party at an address on Birch Hall Lane in Longsight, where a large amount of people had gathered. We believe at some point, shortly before 1am, an altercation took place, possibly in the garden, and it’s been reported five gunshots were fired. A scene is currently in place and officers are working to establish the circumstances of what has happened.

Four people injured during shooting incident at Manchester party

One man has serious injuries and another is in serious condition after shots fired at engagement party in Longsight, say police

www.theguardian.com

That happens every 30 seconds in the US.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Get back to me when the level of gun violence in England reaches the proportions that it is in this country. Otherwise, it's just cherry picking.

 

[2aguy]

That happens every 30 seconds in the US.

We are told it can't happen in the U.K. because they have super duper gun control laws..........

 

[2aguy]

Get back to me when the level of gun violence in England reaches the proportions that it is in this country. Otherwise, it's just cherry picking.

What makes you think it won't? They were devestated by World War 2 and they, as well as the rest of Europe have lagged behind...now their welfare states have destroyed their families....their left wing has destroyed their cultures, and now 3rd world criminals have taken over their drug trade....and they don't care about British law or culture.....and are more than happy to use guns to get what they want....

You guys think that crime is static....it isn't...and as fatherless boys in Britain turn to gangs, they will also turn to guns...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

What makes you think it won't? They were devestated by World War 2 and they, as well as the rest of Europe have lagged behind...now their welfare states have destroyed their families....their left wing has destroyed their cultures, and now 3rd world criminals have taken over their drug trade....and they don't care about British law or culture.....and are more than happy to use guns to get what they want....

You guys think that crime is static....it isn't...and as fatherless boys in Britain turn to gangs, they will also turn to guns...

Coulda, woulda, shoulda, maybe. Bottom line is that they have a LONG way to go before they even start to scratch the level of gun violence that occurs in this county.
There's no comparison..except for you cherry pickers..which is a really weak way to support your argument for lax gun control in this country.

 

[JoeBlow]

We are told it can't happen in the U.K. because they have super duper gun control laws..........

Well, it certainly happens MUCH less than here, so that's good. If your point is that gun violence should be at zero there because they have stricter gun laws, then you're a fucking retard.

 

[Moonglow]

What makes you think it won't? They were devestated by World War 2 and they, as well as the rest of Europe have lagged behind...now their welfare states have destroyed their families....their left wing has destroyed their cultures, and now 3rd world criminals have taken over their drug trade....and they don't care about British law or culture.....and are more than happy to use guns to get what they want....

You guys think that crime is static....it isn't...and as fatherless boys in Britain turn to gangs, they will also turn to guns...

That is not a new occurrence it is an old story.

 

[badbob85037]

Gang shootings at parties..........they keep telling us that British gun control stops this sort of thing...but what they don't tell you is that the breakdown of British families and culture is creating a gang culture that is not afraid of the traditional British Bobbie, does not respect British culture, and now sees violence....and more and more, gun fire......as just part of gang life...

A 16-year-old girl was among four people hurt during a shooting at an engagement party in Manchester, police have said.

Police were called just after 1am on Sunday following reports of four people arriving at hospital with apparent gunshot wounds.



One man, 54, is being treated for serious injuries to his arm, and a 48-year-old man is in a serious condition and has undergone surgery.

A 27-year-old woman and a 16-year-old girl were also injured in the incident. “It is unclear whether this is a result of a gunshot, debris from the discharge, or from the disturbance at the scene,” Greater Manchester police (GMP) said in a statement.

The 16-year-old has since been discharged from hospital.

Greater Manchester police said: “It appears the group had been at an engagement party at an address on Birch Hall Lane in Longsight, where a large amount of people had gathered. We believe at some point, shortly before 1am, an altercation took place, possibly in the garden, and it’s been reported five gunshots were fired. A scene is currently in place and officers are working to establish the circumstances of what has happened.

Four people injured during shooting incident at Manchester party

One man has serious injuries and another is in serious condition after shots fired at engagement party in Longsight, say police

www.theguardian.com

HALT! or I'll yell Halt again. Don't let those Brits fool you. They have MP-5's in their trunks. Stabbings alone in London last year keep up with the killing in New York

 

[ding]

Well, it certainly happens MUCH less than here, so that's good. If your point is that gun violence should be at zero there because they have stricter gun laws, then you're a fucking retard.

And yet that does appear to be the standard. Zero. And until it is we can expect more and more legislation until we ban and confiscate all firearms.

 

[surada]

Gang shootings at parties..........they keep telling us that British gun control stops this sort of thing...but what they don't tell you is that the breakdown of British families and culture is creating a gang culture that is not afraid of the traditional British Bobbie, does not respect British culture, and now sees violence....and more and more, gun fire......as just part of gang life...

A 16-year-old girl was among four people hurt during a shooting at an engagement party in Manchester, police have said.

Police were called just after 1am on Sunday following reports of four people arriving at hospital with apparent gunshot wounds.



One man, 54, is being treated for serious injuries to his arm, and a 48-year-old man is in a serious condition and has undergone surgery.

A 27-year-old woman and a 16-year-old girl were also injured in the incident. “It is unclear whether this is a result of a gunshot, debris from the discharge, or from the disturbance at the scene,” Greater Manchester police (GMP) said in a statement.

The 16-year-old has since been discharged from hospital.

Greater Manchester police said: “It appears the group had been at an engagement party at an address on Birch Hall Lane in Longsight, where a large amount of people had gathered. We believe at some point, shortly before 1am, an altercation took place, possibly in the garden, and it’s been reported five gunshots were fired. A scene is currently in place and officers are working to establish the circumstances of what has happened.

Four people injured during shooting incident at Manchester party

One man has serious injuries and another is in serious condition after shots fired at engagement party in Longsight, say police

www.theguardian.com

Thank God this doesn't happen very often in the UK.

Are you smug or just delighted?

 

[surada]

HALT! or I'll yell Halt again. Don't let those Brits fool you. They have MP-5's in their trunks. Stabbings alone in London last year keep up with the killing in New York

Prove it.

 

[JoeBlow]

And yet that does appear to be the standard. Zero. And until it is we can expect more and more legislation until we ban and confiscate all firearms.

We need weapons, they help control the gang banger population.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Thank God this doesn't happen very often in the UK.

Are you smug or just delighted?

Neither. He's cherry picking.

 

[2aguy]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda, maybe. Bottom line is that they have a LONG way to go before they even start to scratch the level of gun violence that occurs in this county.
There's no comparison..except for you cherry pickers..which is a really weak way to support your argument for lax gun control in this country.

Bottom line is that crime is changing in Britain and gun control isn't going to stop criminals from getting guns......it will keep normal British citizens from being able to defend themselves from rapists, thieves and killers.

 

[2aguy]

Thank God this doesn't happen very often in the UK.

Are you smug or just delighted?

I a understand human nature and human history, you don't.

 

[2aguy]

Well, it certainly happens MUCH less than here, so that's good. If your point is that gun violence should be at zero there because they have stricter gun laws, then you're a fucking retard.

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, stabbings, beatings, robberies and murders...according to the Centers for Disease control.....guns in the hands of normal people save far more lives than lives taken by guns in the hands of criminals.......guns also keep the government in line.....

 

[JoeBlow]

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, stabbings, beatings, robberies and murders...according to the Centers for Disease control.....guns in the hands of normal people save far more lives than lives taken by guns in the hands of criminals.......guns also keep the government in line.....

You're delusional. Turn your guns in for the sake of your community.

 

[ding]

We need weapons, they help control the gang banger population.

Armies use weapons. Civilians use firearms and guns. The point still remains though... gun control is an emotional argument whose logical conclusion is the banning and confiscation of all firearms.