4 out of 50 most dangerous cities are in the U.S., guess which party runs them?

[OnePercenter]

Yes....democrat tax policies in california.........have driven movie making out of california.....

California (No. 3) doesn't offer substantial subsidies like Louisiana (No. 1) and Canada (no.2) do. However, almost all post production is done in California.

No, it's not. Marketing is about all that's left. Vancouver got the majority of it and they have excellent production facilities there. Disney has work done in Burbank but the actual production of the animation is farmed out to Korea for the majority of that work. Basically the work that is done in Hollywood are the story boards, the marketing, and the deal making. The actual production though is farmed out, away from CA.

I have friends who are still in the industry and they are moving out of CA as fast as they can. One of my friends who works for Disney actually lives in Idaho where he does most of his work and he only go's to LA for the production meetings.

The movie industry in Los Angeles employees 175,000 people and contributes $8.5 Billion into the local economy. Not at all the small number that you want us to believe.

Is it smaller than years past? Sure. With the advent of technology you don't need to be present in building to be an employee anymore, you can be physically 2000 miles from the office and be a virtual presence everyday.

Does the movie industry farm out to Korea? Sure. They are no different in corporate thinking that screw their employees for higher profit. Why pay an employee here when you can farm out to slave wages in a foreign country?

Does you friend (a contractor) contribute living in Idaho? I'm sure. Because he doesn't have to be physically present anymore saving office space. Think about it. You can edit a major motion picture with three linked laptops anywhere in the world. Something that couldn't be done 15 years ago.

That said, it still doesn't take away from the 175,000 and $8.5B.

 

[westwall]

Yes....democrat tax policies in california.........have driven movie making out of california.....

California (No. 3) doesn't offer substantial subsidies like Louisiana (No. 1) and Canada (no.2) do. However, almost all post production is done in California.

No, it's not. Marketing is about all that's left. Vancouver got the majority of it and they have excellent production facilities there. Disney has work done in Burbank but the actual production of the animation is farmed out to Korea for the majority of that work. Basically the work that is done in Hollywood are the story boards, the marketing, and the deal making. The actual production though is farmed out, away from CA.

I have friends who are still in the industry and they are moving out of CA as fast as they can. One of my friends who works for Disney actually lives in Idaho where he does most of his work and he only go's to LA for the production meetings.

The movie industry in Los Angeles employees 175,000 people and contributes $8.5 Billion into the local economy. Not at all the small number that you want us to believe.

Is it smaller than years past? Sure. With the advent of technology you don't need to be present in building to be an employee anymore, you can be physically 2000 miles from the office and be a virtual presence everyday.

Does the movie industry farm out to Korea? Sure. They are no different in corporate thinking that screw their employees for higher profit. Why pay an employee here when you can farm out to slave wages in a foreign country?

Does you friend (a contractor) contribute living in Idaho? I'm sure. Because he doesn't have to be physically present anymore saving office space. Think about it. You can edit a major motion picture with three linked laptops anywhere in the world. Something that couldn't be done 15 years ago.

That said, it still doesn't take away from the 175,000 and $8.5B.

How about providing some links to support your BS there... junior.






Here's what the experts in the field say. And for the record CA offers up to 100 million in tax incentives for movie making now trying to get them to come back.. Guess you forgot about that fact.


Paul Audley, President of FilmLA, said he appreciated the mayor's "call to arms."

"We have virtually lost the most valuable forms of film and television production in California," Audley says. He cites the highly valuable television drama as an example.

About 80-85 percent of television dramas were once shot in California. Today, it's closer to 40 percent or even lower, Audley says. TV dramas are valuable for their long-term employment of cast and crew, great wages and big spending in the area on the materials needed for production.

"When we lose one, it's a serious problem," Audley says,. "In the 2012 season, there were 23 new dramas, and 21 of those were not filmed in California."


LA residents need to make $33 an hour to afford the average apartment
Since 2009, the California Film Commission has offered $100 million a year in incentives to film and television productions, but that's less than a quarter of what New York has offered. In a recent report, the Film Commission says "competing states that offer incentives achieve dramatic growth in production spending, siphoning money that would have historically been spent in California. "



Is the Los Angeles film and television industry really in a state of emergency?

 

[OnePercenter]

Simply because it takes a long time to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. When I was a young man CA was the 6th largest GDP on the planet. Now, depending on who you look at it is either 8th or 11th. Regardless, it is on the way down and its fall is accelerating. The problem with morons like you is you are nothing more than children. You have no ability to see beyond the one M&M that is presented to you right now, that second M&M that is yours for the taking if only you can wait a little while is beyond your ability to understand.

CA was one of THE industrial powerhouses of the world. Now it is shifting to a service based economy. So, tell us junior, what happens to service based economies compared to manufacturing based ones?

It's taken decades for California to move from number 6 to number 8?

Writing of industrial powerhouses; if Nixon hadn't opened the US for product dumping, wouldn't we continue to be the industrial powerhouse?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Simply because it takes a long time to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. When I was a young man CA was the 6th largest GDP on the planet. Now, depending on who you look at it is either 8th or 11th. Regardless, it is on the way down and its fall is accelerating. The problem with morons like you is you are nothing more than children. You have no ability to see beyond the one M&M that is presented to you right now, that second M&M that is yours for the taking if only you can wait a little while is beyond your ability to understand.

CA was one of THE industrial powerhouses of the world. Now it is shifting to a service based economy. So, tell us junior, what happens to service based economies compared to manufacturing based ones?

It's taken decades for California to move from number 6 to number 8?

Writing of industrial powerhouses; if Nixon hadn't opened the US for product dumping, wouldn't we continue to be the industrial powerhouse?

1. We still are an industrial power house

2. Its called the rest of the world catching up after WWII, it would of happen regardless of Nixion.

 

[westwall]

Simply because it takes a long time to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. When I was a young man CA was the 6th largest GDP on the planet. Now, depending on who you look at it is either 8th or 11th. Regardless, it is on the way down and its fall is accelerating. The problem with morons like you is you are nothing more than children. You have no ability to see beyond the one M&M that is presented to you right now, that second M&M that is yours for the taking if only you can wait a little while is beyond your ability to understand.

CA was one of THE industrial powerhouses of the world. Now it is shifting to a service based economy. So, tell us junior, what happens to service based economies compared to manufacturing based ones?

It's taken decades for California to move from number 6 to number 8?

Writing of industrial powerhouses; if Nixon hadn't opened the US for product dumping, wouldn't we continue to be the industrial powerhouse?

Still waiting for your links silly boy. You are long on BS and real short on links to back it up.

 

[OnePercenter]

Yes....democrat tax policies in california.........have driven movie making out of california.....

California (No. 3) doesn't offer substantial subsidies like Louisiana (No. 1) and Canada (no.2) do. However, almost all post production is done in California.

No, it's not. Marketing is about all that's left. Vancouver got the majority of it and they have excellent production facilities there. Disney has work done in Burbank but the actual production of the animation is farmed out to Korea for the majority of that work. Basically the work that is done in Hollywood are the story boards, the marketing, and the deal making. The actual production though is farmed out, away from CA.

I have friends who are still in the industry and they are moving out of CA as fast as they can. One of my friends who works for Disney actually lives in Idaho where he does most of his work and he only go's to LA for the production meetings.

The movie industry in Los Angeles employees 175,000 people and contributes $8.5 Billion into the local economy. Not at all the small number that you want us to believe.

Is it smaller than years past? Sure. With the advent of technology you don't need to be present in building to be an employee anymore, you can be physically 2000 miles from the office and be a virtual presence everyday.

Does the movie industry farm out to Korea? Sure. They are no different in corporate thinking that screw their employees for higher profit. Why pay an employee here when you can farm out to slave wages in a foreign country?

Does you friend (a contractor) contribute living in Idaho? I'm sure. Because he doesn't have to be physically present anymore saving office space. Think about it. You can edit a major motion picture with three linked laptops anywhere in the world. Something that couldn't be done 15 years ago.

That said, it still doesn't take away from the 175,000 and $8.5B.

How about providing some links to support your BS there... junior.






Here's what the experts in the field say. And for the record CA offers up to 100 million in tax incentives for movie making now trying to get them to come back.. Guess you forgot about that fact.


Paul Audley, President of FilmLA, said he appreciated the mayor's "call to arms."

"We have virtually lost the most valuable forms of film and television production in California," Audley says. He cites the highly valuable television drama as an example.

About 80-85 percent of television dramas were once shot in California. Today, it's closer to 40 percent or even lower, Audley says. TV dramas are valuable for their long-term employment of cast and crew, great wages and big spending in the area on the materials needed for production.

"When we lose one, it's a serious problem," Audley says,. "In the 2012 season, there were 23 new dramas, and 21 of those were not filmed in California."


LA residents need to make $33 an hour to afford the average apartment
Since 2009, the California Film Commission has offered $100 million a year in incentives to film and television productions, but that's less than a quarter of what New York has offered. In a recent report, the Film Commission says "competing states that offer incentives achieve dramatic growth in production spending, siphoning money that would have historically been spent in California. "



Is the Los Angeles film and television industry really in a state of emergency?

New York offers four times more than California and makes less movies and TV production? Seems California is smart. Why don't you do a cost benefit analysis for Canada and Louisiana.

It still doesn't take away from the 175,000 and $8.5B which are both huge numbers.

 

[westwall]

Yes....democrat tax policies in california.........have driven movie making out of california.....

California (No. 3) doesn't offer substantial subsidies like Louisiana (No. 1) and Canada (no.2) do. However, almost all post production is done in California.

No, it's not. Marketing is about all that's left. Vancouver got the majority of it and they have excellent production facilities there. Disney has work done in Burbank but the actual production of the animation is farmed out to Korea for the majority of that work. Basically the work that is done in Hollywood are the story boards, the marketing, and the deal making. The actual production though is farmed out, away from CA.

I have friends who are still in the industry and they are moving out of CA as fast as they can. One of my friends who works for Disney actually lives in Idaho where he does most of his work and he only go's to LA for the production meetings.

The movie industry in Los Angeles employees 175,000 people and contributes $8.5 Billion into the local economy. Not at all the small number that you want us to believe.

Is it smaller than years past? Sure. With the advent of technology you don't need to be present in building to be an employee anymore, you can be physically 2000 miles from the office and be a virtual presence everyday.

Does the movie industry farm out to Korea? Sure. They are no different in corporate thinking that screw their employees for higher profit. Why pay an employee here when you can farm out to slave wages in a foreign country?

Does you friend (a contractor) contribute living in Idaho? I'm sure. Because he doesn't have to be physically present anymore saving office space. Think about it. You can edit a major motion picture with three linked laptops anywhere in the world. Something that couldn't be done 15 years ago.

That said, it still doesn't take away from the 175,000 and $8.5B.

How about providing some links to support your BS there... junior.






Here's what the experts in the field say. And for the record CA offers up to 100 million in tax incentives for movie making now trying to get them to come back.. Guess you forgot about that fact.


Paul Audley, President of FilmLA, said he appreciated the mayor's "call to arms."

"We have virtually lost the most valuable forms of film and television production in California," Audley says. He cites the highly valuable television drama as an example.

About 80-85 percent of television dramas were once shot in California. Today, it's closer to 40 percent or even lower, Audley says. TV dramas are valuable for their long-term employment of cast and crew, great wages and big spending in the area on the materials needed for production.

"When we lose one, it's a serious problem," Audley says,. "In the 2012 season, there were 23 new dramas, and 21 of those were not filmed in California."


LA residents need to make $33 an hour to afford the average apartment
Since 2009, the California Film Commission has offered $100 million a year in incentives to film and television productions, but that's less than a quarter of what New York has offered. In a recent report, the Film Commission says "competing states that offer incentives achieve dramatic growth in production spending, siphoning money that would have historically been spent in California. "



Is the Los Angeles film and television industry really in a state of emergency?

New York offers four times more than California and makes less movies and TV production? Seems California is smart. Why don't you do a cost benefit analysis for Canada and Louisiana.

It still doesn't take away from the 175,000 and $8.5B which are both huge numbers.

Still waiting for your links silly boy. The largest number of people actually employed by Hollywood was around 140,000 and that was decades ago. You are simply full of shit and your BS won't fly here. I know too many people in the industry and you are simply lying your ass off.

 

[OnePercenter]

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

That's a lie since corporate subsidies outspend people subsidies.

 

[OnePercenter]

1. We still are an industrial power house

2. Its called the rest of the world catching up after WWII, it would of happen regardless of Nixion.

If Nixon hadn't product dumped, and Reagan hadn't put us in the world economy could you have written that?

 

[westwall]

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

That's a lie since corporate subsidies outspend people subsidies.

STILL WAITING FOR YOUR LINKS silly boy.

C'mon, you posted up some big numbers there. It should be trivial to find the links to support your BS...

@OnePercenter

 

[OnePercenter]

Simply because it takes a long time to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. When I was a young man CA was the 6th largest GDP on the planet. Now, depending on who you look at it is either 8th or 11th. Regardless, it is on the way down and its fall is accelerating. The problem with morons like you is you are nothing more than children. You have no ability to see beyond the one M&M that is presented to you right now, that second M&M that is yours for the taking if only you can wait a little while is beyond your ability to understand.

CA was one of THE industrial powerhouses of the world. Now it is shifting to a service based economy. So, tell us junior, what happens to service based economies compared to manufacturing based ones?

It's taken decades for California to move from number 6 to number 8?

Writing of industrial powerhouses; if Nixon hadn't opened the US for product dumping, wouldn't we continue to be the industrial powerhouse?

Still waiting for your links silly boy. You are long on BS and real short on links to back it up.

Why do I need links to ask two questions?

 

[westwall]

Simply because it takes a long time to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. When I was a young man CA was the 6th largest GDP on the planet. Now, depending on who you look at it is either 8th or 11th. Regardless, it is on the way down and its fall is accelerating. The problem with morons like you is you are nothing more than children. You have no ability to see beyond the one M&M that is presented to you right now, that second M&M that is yours for the taking if only you can wait a little while is beyond your ability to understand.

CA was one of THE industrial powerhouses of the world. Now it is shifting to a service based economy. So, tell us junior, what happens to service based economies compared to manufacturing based ones?

It's taken decades for California to move from number 6 to number 8?

Writing of industrial powerhouses; if Nixon hadn't opened the US for product dumping, wouldn't we continue to be the industrial powerhouse?

Still waiting for your links silly boy. You are long on BS and real short on links to back it up.

Why do I need links to ask two questions?

You claimed Hollywood employs 175,000 people and generates 8.5 billion. Provide some links silly boy. You are lying through your teeth. You know it and I know it. I just want to see you flail around a bit.

 

[Pogo]

Irony... Detroit was a great city...one of the best in the world. Then over two decades it is destroyed mostly by government incompetence lead by one political party. This is ignored and other much less heinous crimes are magnified, such as the Flint water crisis.

Again, Detroit was not "led" by a political party, and nice pun btw.

No city anywhere is "led by a political party". That's not what political parties DO. This false premise is the non-basis of this whole thread, and the endless logical diarrhea of its forebears that said the same thing expecting a different result. Having then no basis, the proposition collapses. It doesn't so much fall to the ground, as "plummets".

 

[westwall]

Irony... Detroit was a great city...one of the best in the world. Then over two decades it is destroyed mostly by government incompetence lead by one political party. This is ignored and other much less heinous crimes are magnified, such as the Flint water crisis.

Again, Detroit was not "led" by a political party, and nice pun btw.

No city anywhere is "led by a political party". That's not what political parties DO. This false premise is the non-basis of this whole thread, and the endless logical diarrhea of its forebears that said the same thing expecting a different result. Having then no basis, the proposition doesn't so much fall to the ground, as "plummets".

Quit with your bullshit semantic game clown boy. If the entire city is run by politicians who are Democrats, what "party" is in control of that city? The Communist Party?

Get real..

 

[Brain357]

Has it occurred to you guys that is repub policies were so great they would get elected? How is it the small government party can't get elected at the smallest levels of government? They really need to work on their policies.

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

Most people don't want free crap.

 

[depotoo]

And corporate subsidies in no way benefit employees? You can't be that narrow minded, surely.

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

That's a lie since corporate subsidies outspend people subsidies.

 

[2aguy]

Has it occurred to you guys that is repub policies were so great they would get elected? How is it the small government party can't get elected at the smallest levels of government? They really need to work on their policies.

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

Most people don't want free crap.

Wow...you do live in a fantasy world......go to a hilary or bernie sanders rally......they all want free crap..that is the entire premise of both of their campaigns.......

 

[Pogo]

Irony... Detroit was a great city...one of the best in the world. Then over two decades it is destroyed mostly by government incompetence lead by one political party. This is ignored and other much less heinous crimes are magnified, such as the Flint water crisis.

Again, Detroit was not "led" by a political party, and nice pun btw.

No city anywhere is "led by a political party". That's not what political parties DO. This false premise is the non-basis of this whole thread, and the endless logical diarrhea of its forebears that said the same thing expecting a different result. Having then no basis, the proposition doesn't so much fall to the ground, as "plummets".

Quit with your bullshit semantic game clown boy. If the entire city is run by politicians who are Democrats, what "party" is in control of that city? The Communist Party?

Get real..

"Real"?? What "feels like it should work" when reality doesn't sync is.... "the real"?

Lemme essplain to the kids who got off the special bus.... know all those Stormfront McRacists who ooze in here claiming this story, or that stat, or the other situation ----- is "because they're black"?

Well this is the exact same fallacy.

Goes by many names, let's call it a False Induction, employing Fallacy of Exclusion:

ex: >> "Jones is Albertan, and most Albertans vote Tory, so Jones will probably vote Tory".
(The information left out is that Jones lives in Edmonton, and that most people in Edmonton vote Liberal or N.D.P.) <<

You and the OP have cherrypicked Detroit (or a handful of cherrypicked stats) and claimed not only that the political party statistically associated with said cities' operations is therefore a causation of whatever stats you cherrypick, but have actually gone so far as to claim the party itself actually "runs" those cities.

The information left out is that virtually any city and any set of cherrypicked stats, positive, negative or neutral, returns the same political party association --- which does not at all reflect the premise.

That's why back at the beginning here I laid out the challenge to demonstrate exactly how the DNC "runs" cities.

Needless to say, I got crickets. Because we all know ---- it doesn't.

"IF most PCs run a Microsoft platform;
and IF most terrorist planning on computers is done on PCs;
THEN this proves Microsoft foments terrorism."
--- doesn't work.​

On top of that y'all have a Reduction Fallacy ("X occurred after Y. Therefore, Y caused X (although A,B,C...etc. also caused X") going on.

--- as if the one and only factor driving what happens in cities, cherrypicked or otherwise, is what political party label (Y) is associated with its administration.

As if there's no such thing as national economic classes or disparities. (A)
As if there's no such thing as business' impact on a community by its presence or absence -- or its general health. (B)
As if there's no such thing as historical background. (C)

Context is so inconvenient, innit?

 

[Brain357]

Has it occurred to you guys that is repub policies were so great they would get elected? How is it the small government party can't get elected at the smallest levels of government? They really need to work on their policies.

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

Most people don't want free crap.

Wow...you do live in a fantasy world......go to a hilary or bernie sanders rally......they all want free crap..that is the entire premise of both of their campaigns.......

They want to give.

 

[2aguy]

Has it occurred to you guys that is repub policies were so great they would get elected? How is it the small government party can't get elected at the smallest levels of government? They really need to work on their policies.

Because they won't promise to give people free crap..........As Rush said, it is hard to beat Santa Clause.......

And it is the tax, spend, give away free crap that is destroying these cities and states......I know..look at Chicago..the School district can't pay it's teachers past the end of February and the teachers still want pay raises....

Most people don't want free crap.

Wow...you do live in a fantasy world......go to a hilary or bernie sanders rally......they all want free crap..that is the entire premise of both of their campaigns.......

They want to give.

And their followers want to take....a match made in hell....