4.2% GDP growth, 5.8% for quarter, no phony Pub crises, disfunction- TY for nothing....

Hey dumb fucks, you think the man on the factory floor is going to forget who nearly put us into the Second Great Republican Depression?

You stupid asshat. George W Bush warned the democrats 17 times in 2008 alone of the pending real estate bubble. Curiously, the democrats ignored him. Almost as though they knew the bubble would cause a major problem in a major election year in 2008.


What Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

Briefing Room The White House

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

** 2001

April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”

** 2002

May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

** 2003

January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

** 2004

February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)

February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04)

June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

** 2005

April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)

** 2007

July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)

September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)

** 2008

January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)

March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)

April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation
and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)

May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

“Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)

“[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)

“Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)

June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)
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The democrats have had majority power since 2007. The last time the Republicans had majority power was 2006. The unemployment rate was 4.6 percent. The pathetic left wing media only harped on the price of gas.

In 2012, the fake unemployment number was 7.8 percent and the gas was the highest in history. The left wing media CELEBRATED the fake 7.8 percent that turned out to be a lie, and they ignored the highest price at the pump.

This so called "depression" (which it was far from that you stupid ignorant fuck) is virtually ALL on the democrats. WHO, I submit did it on purpose for political expediency.

Democrats are nothing but American hating, power hungry scumbags who are hell bent on turning this country to a socialist government. The media is hell bent on helping them facilitate their plans, and they all use fucktards like you as their little fucking pawns.

You are ignorant as hell. You stupid fucking waste of shit.
 
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Booosh just wanted to screw with Fannie and Freddie, which he forced to deal in toxic assets like his cronies, and had nothing to do with the corrupt practices until he forced them to. But thanks for the bs propaganda, dumbass.
 
Once again, the truth is that it is Congress' job to regulate, not the President. The country and the economy were doing fairly well in spite of 9/11, dotcom crash, the Clinton Recession and other factors, until when? Until Congress was taken over by democrats. THEN we saw what they did with the housing industry. But being liberals they take absolutely no responsibility for the mess that everyone saw coming. It was their job, they didn't do it, they did exactly the opposite. I think they did it to crash the economy to ensure a democrat presidential win. Yeah, I think them that low.

But let us say that 2 percent growth for the first two quarters is something to brag about. After the longest and weakest recovery in history what can be said that the democrats have done to cause this to happen? NOTHING is my answer so more obstructionism, if there were any, in Congress must be a good thing. The only "part" of either party fighting for fiscal responsibility is the Tea party and we see how their efforts are met by the left and some on the right who should in reality be on the left.

Read the article: Bank profits at record highs. Corporate profits at record highs. Consumer spending flat lined. So what does that tell you? It tells me that the democrats, if they are taking credit for this, are all for the 1 percenters, the working man, not so much. Banks and Corporations are making record profits by cutting out the working man and to this the left wing brags, bravo.
 
So we are back to being saved again...from shovel rdy jobs that werent shovel rdy have now mysteriously been found again........
Do you have any concept of what a shovel ready job is?

Obviously Obama didn't know as he plunged our children into debt.

Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Stimulus was meant to provide immediate employment opportunities. They did not want to allocate money to a project that could not begin work for another five years. Hence the term "shovel ready" meaning jobs that could start right away
Obama did not promise shovel ready jobs. It was a condition to recieve stimulus funding. It was up to the states to define which jobs were shovel ready. Some states did a good job at using stimulus funds others just used it to balance their budget
 
So we are back to being saved again...from shovel rdy jobs that werent shovel rdy have now mysteriously been found again........
Do you have any concept of what a shovel ready job is?

Obviously Obama didn't know as he plunged our children into debt.

Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Stimulus was meant to provide immediate employment opportunities. They did not want to allocate money to a project that could not begin work for another five years. Hence the term "shovel ready" meaning jobs that could start right away
Obama did not promise shovel ready jobs. It was a condition to recieve stimulus funding. It was up to the states to define which jobs were shovel ready. Some states did a good job at using stimulus funds others just used it to balance their budget

So Obama opened the bank door and threw out a stack of your children's money and said have at it without a thought of where it would go. So his shovel ready comment supports what you say? I will agree that there were a lot of projects completed with the stimulus money to that there is little argument. What I saw personally is a boom in sign making. Everywhere I looked there were signs proclaiming that a project was being funded by Obama himself. (hyperbole) Although at most I didn't see anything being done, could have been behind the scenes.

Never the less, his comment about shovel ready and the stupid "cash for clunkers" is enough evidence for me to show that Obama really had no real ideas on what to do except spend money. Your children's money.
 
So we are back to being saved again...from shovel rdy jobs that werent shovel rdy have now mysteriously been found again........
Do you have any concept of what a shovel ready job is?

Obviously Obama didn't know as he plunged our children into debt.

Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Stimulus was meant to provide immediate employment opportunities. They did not want to allocate money to a project that could not begin work for another five years. Hence the term "shovel ready" meaning jobs that could start right away
Obama did not promise shovel ready jobs. It was a condition to recieve stimulus funding. It was up to the states to define which jobs were shovel ready. Some states did a good job at using stimulus funds others just used it to balance their budget

So Obama opened the bank door and threw out a stack of your children's money and said have at it without a thought of where it would go. So his shovel ready comment supports what you say? I will agree that there were a lot of projects completed with the stimulus money to that there is little argument. What I saw personally is a boom in sign making. Everywhere I looked there were signs proclaiming that a project was being funded by Obama himself. (hyperbole) Although at most I didn't see anything being done, could have been behind the scenes.

Never the less, his comment about shovel ready and the stupid "cash for clunkers" is enough evidence for me to show that Obama really had no real ideas on what to do except spend money. Your children's money.

Actually, he opened up the bank door and spent half the money on tax cuts (bad idea) and sent the rest to the states to allocate to public works projects, teachers, police, firemen or whatever eligible project they had

I would rather have my childrens money spent on providing money to Americans than on two senseless wars. But conservatives don't bitch about spending money on two fucking invasions, only about spending money on Americans

By the way...Stimulus worked and it helped to stop a depression
 
U.S. consumer spending falls for first time in six months

Market Watch ^

Consumer spending fell in July for the first time in six months, as Americans cut back on purchases of new cars and other retail goods, the government reported Friday. The drop in spending was a bit of a surprise: economists polled by MarketWatch had predicted a seasonally adjusted 0.1% increase. The growth in incomes, meanwhile, slowed to 0.2% pace in July from 0.5% in each of the prior two months. It was the smallest gain since December and also below Wall Street expectations....
 

^ English Professor at UC Berkley and High Ranking Officer in the Liberal Intellectual Elite
 
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People are investing their Food Stamps, unemployment and the money they're saving, the $2,500 per person, from switching to ObamaCare
 
Hey dumb fucks, you think the man on the factory floor is going to forget who nearly put us into the Second Great Republican Depression?

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' -- Barney Frank
 
So, let us discuss why the democrats who controlled the purse strings and had majority power starting in 2007, ignored all 17 of Bush's warnings in 2008 (A big election year of course).

What are your theories as to why the DEMOCRATS IGNORED all 17 of Bush's warnings.

Do liberals know or care that the democrats IGNORED ALL OF BUSH'S warnings in an election year?

Why did the economy sink into utter shit AFTER THE DEMOCRATS took over power. THE DEMOCRATS have had majority power since 2007.

The economy, contrary to what the media reported in 2006 was doing quite well. Despite an attack like no one had ever seen in this country on the financial heart of America. The unemployment rate (just to reiterate to the left wing deranged ignorant gas bags) was 4.6 percent.

Why did the media harp on only the high gas prices and ignore the recovery of the market? Why did that same media brag about 7.8 percent in 2012 (which turned out to be a lie OF COURSE) and they did not say shit about the high gas prices. Let us be clear. The gas prices were the HIGHEST EVER and the media did not say shit. OH, my mistake. I am lying. The media did say something about the high gas prices. No, instead of calling it crony capitalism like they did under BOOOOOOSH in 2006, they bragged that it was great for the planet.

Want proof of that?

Just watch this piece.



^^^^^ That will not be viewed by the sock puppet squishpot liberals that post on here. That is proof. Now, let us discuss why those pieces of shit ignored all of Bush's warnings in 2008 about the housing bubble.

Do not think the democrats would sacrifice the economy in order to gain power? Really?

Franco, you are one dumb fuck. You have been destroyed in your own pathetic ignorant half baked thread. Ought to be used to it by now.
 
So we are back to being saved again...from shovel rdy jobs that werent shovel rdy have now mysteriously been found again........
Do you have any concept of what a shovel ready job is?

Obviously Obama didn't know as he plunged our children into debt.

Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Stimulus was meant to provide immediate employment opportunities. They did not want to allocate money to a project that could not begin work for another five years. Hence the term "shovel ready" meaning jobs that could start right away
Obama did not promise shovel ready jobs. It was a condition to recieve stimulus funding. It was up to the states to define which jobs were shovel ready. Some states did a good job at using stimulus funds others just used it to balance their budget

So Obama opened the bank door and threw out a stack of your children's money and said have at it without a thought of where it would go. So his shovel ready comment supports what you say? I will agree that there were a lot of projects completed with the stimulus money to that there is little argument. What I saw personally is a boom in sign making. Everywhere I looked there were signs proclaiming that a project was being funded by Obama himself. (hyperbole) Although at most I didn't see anything being done, could have been behind the scenes.

Never the less, his comment about shovel ready and the stupid "cash for clunkers" is enough evidence for me to show that Obama really had no real ideas on what to do except spend money. Your children's money.

Actually, he opened up the bank door and spent half the money on tax cuts (bad idea) and sent the rest to the states to allocate to public works projects, teachers, police, firemen or whatever eligible project they had

I would rather have my childrens money spent on providing money to Americans than on two senseless wars. But conservatives don't bitch about spending money on two fucking invasions, only about spending money on Americans

By the way...Stimulus worked and it helped to stop a depression

I would have rather seen my children's money not spent.

The truth is that avoiding a depression is like saying your seat belt kept you from being killed by the accident you never had.

Record numbers dropping out of the work force.

Record numbers on welfare.

Record numbers claiming disability.

Record corporate profits.

Record Bank profits.

Yet put money into an interest baring account and you actually lose money.

Yeah Obama sure fixed a cold by giving the working man pneumonia.
 
So we are back to being saved again...from shovel rdy jobs that werent shovel rdy have now mysteriously been found again........
Do you have any concept of what a shovel ready job is?

Obviously Obama didn't know as he plunged our children into debt.

Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Stimulus was meant to provide immediate employment opportunities. They did not want to allocate money to a project that could not begin work for another five years. Hence the term "shovel ready" meaning jobs that could start right away
Obama did not promise shovel ready jobs. It was a condition to recieve stimulus funding. It was up to the states to define which jobs were shovel ready. Some states did a good job at using stimulus funds others just used it to balance their budget

So Obama opened the bank door and threw out a stack of your children's money and said have at it without a thought of where it would go. So his shovel ready comment supports what you say? I will agree that there were a lot of projects completed with the stimulus money to that there is little argument. What I saw personally is a boom in sign making. Everywhere I looked there were signs proclaiming that a project was being funded by Obama himself. (hyperbole) Although at most I didn't see anything being done, could have been behind the scenes.

Never the less, his comment about shovel ready and the stupid "cash for clunkers" is enough evidence for me to show that Obama really had no real ideas on what to do except spend money. Your children's money.

Actually, he opened up the bank door and spent half the money on tax cuts (bad idea) and sent the rest to the states to allocate to public works projects, teachers, police, firemen or whatever eligible project they had

I would rather have my childrens money spent on providing money to Americans than on two senseless wars. But conservatives don't bitch about spending money on two fucking invasions, only about spending money on Americans

By the way...Stimulus worked and it helped to stop a depression


Yeah Obama sure fixed a cold by giving the working man pneumonia.

Fixed a cold?

Five Quarters of negative GDP
Losing 750,000 jobs a month
Stock Market lost half of its value
Banks and auto companies near collapse

Stimulus and TARP reversed that....thank Obama
 
You think a liberal will explain to any of us why they think the democrats deliberately ignored all of Bush's warnings in an election year?

You think they will deny they did ignore ALL of Bush's warnings in 2008, an election year?

I wonder what their theories are on why the democrats, who controlled the House AND Senate since 2007 ignored all of Bush's warnings in 2008 about the housing bubble.

Who is dumber. Rightwinger or Franco?
 
Remember when the liberal media bragged about the false unemployment number of 7.8 percent in October of 2012.

... It was a confirmed lie. That, was obviously an election year.

There is no dispute about that. It is not an opinion by "necons."
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No it was not a "confirmed lie." It was unusually steep, but it was not manipulation and it clearly fits in the pattern.

For all practical purposes, it would be impossible to manipulate the UE rate.

Remember..the margin of error for the rate is plus or minus 0.2 percentage points.
 
So we are back to being saved again...from shovel rdy jobs that werent shovel rdy have now mysteriously been found again........
Do you have any concept of what a shovel ready job is?

Obviously Obama didn't know as he plunged our children into debt.

Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Stimulus was meant to provide immediate employment opportunities. They did not want to allocate money to a project that could not begin work for another five years. Hence the term "shovel ready" meaning jobs that could start right away
Obama did not promise shovel ready jobs. It was a condition to recieve stimulus funding. It was up to the states to define which jobs were shovel ready. Some states did a good job at using stimulus funds others just used it to balance their budget

So Obama opened the bank door and threw out a stack of your children's money and said have at it without a thought of where it would go. So his shovel ready comment supports what you say? I will agree that there were a lot of projects completed with the stimulus money to that there is little argument. What I saw personally is a boom in sign making. Everywhere I looked there were signs proclaiming that a project was being funded by Obama himself. (hyperbole) Although at most I didn't see anything being done, could have been behind the scenes.

Never the less, his comment about shovel ready and the stupid "cash for clunkers" is enough evidence for me to show that Obama really had no real ideas on what to do except spend money. Your children's money.

Actually, he opened up the bank door and spent half the money on tax cuts (bad idea) and sent the rest to the states to allocate to public works projects, teachers, police, firemen or whatever eligible project they had

I would rather have my childrens money spent on providing money to Americans than on two senseless wars. But conservatives don't bitch about spending money on two fucking invasions, only about spending money on Americans

By the way...Stimulus worked and it helped to stop a depression


Yeah Obama sure fixed a cold by giving the working man pneumonia.

Fixed a cold?

Five Quarters of negative GDP
Losing 750,000 jobs a month
Stock Market lost half of its value
Banks and auto companies near collapse

Stimulus and TARP reversed that....thank Obama

You mean, thanks Bush for TARP.

So to avoid a depression we save the banks and corporations which today have record profits. Due in part to low interest rates, which screw the working man, and the government printing money like mad. We may have avoided a depression but what was created in the wake will be far worse.

If we had a depression what would have been the result:

A credit downgrade

A lessening if the value of the dollar

Decrease in work force participation.

Increase in welfare (modern soup kitchen)

Increase in disability claims.

Consumer spending flat lined.

So what we got was all of that and inflation. But its OK because the 1 percenters are doing quite well riding on the debt of our children. Instead of taking the pain THEN we put it off for our children, sad, sad commentary.
 

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