.304 and a Batting Champion?

[BackAgain]

Brewers just successfully bunted over runners from 1st and 2nd, with no outs.

Lol! Timely.

I am watching the Giants against Philly.

Weird score. Giants winning in 4th!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Cubs dont need no stinkin bunt.
Double steal, with one out.

 

[Jarlaxle]

WAR is nothing but speculation. As retarded as OPS.

Sit down, adults are speaking.

I’ll give you one

Total Bases/Plate Appearances

Total Bases= Walks+ Singles+Doubles+ Triples+HR + Steals-CS

So...what amounts to OPS figured differently. Congratulations, you have reinvented the wheel!

 

[Jarlaxle]

The problem with the bunt is that it is itself so risky, for such a small reward. Can't bunt with two strikes. Gotta lay down a perfect bunt, or you may make two outs instead of one. And you are essentially giving away an out with a major league hitter at the plate.

The point is that in many cases, if the guy can bunt, he's NOT giving away an out. Hitters like Bobby Witt Jr., Jarren Duran, Cedanne Rafaela, Pete Crow Armstrong, Elly de la Cruz, or Trevor Story are fast enough that unless the infielder makes a perfect play, they're going to beat it...and the pressure to make that play results in mistakes. (And mistakes with these guys running result in runs.)

Plenty of them may be decent at bunting. But having a good MLB hitter bunt there would just be a poor decision, because the success rate of even a good bunt just isn't great, and why take a bat out of the hands of a hitter who can hit for power?

Also, it's really damn hard to bunt against a guy who might throw 98 at the top of the zone or 90 with 15 inches of break.

If managers saw an advantage in bunting away from the shift, you would have seen it every game. Bunt drills every day.

No, it's because many hitters simply can't do it and won't try. Even a fair bun by a left-handed batter against an overshift has a one hundred percent success rate, because there was, essentially, nobody playing 3B. Get it 50' down the line and it's a hit. A fast runner on first probably makes third. A decent runner on second scores. Get it 70' down the line and it's a coin flip if the batter gets a double.

 

[Harry Dresden]

well the dodgers sure got a break.....i feel if it went back to philly they would lose....

 

[Harry Dresden]

They should be.
You are getting on base

since walks are not counted as an AB,,,how can you be on base if you havent been up?..

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lol! Timely.

I am watching the Giants against Philly.

Weird score. Giants winning in 4th!

giants and phillies?.....

 

[rightwinger]

since walks are not counted as an AB,,,how can you be on base if you havent been up?..

The stat is Total Bases
In my stat, I compared to Plate Appearances not ABs

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The point is that in many cases, if the guy can bunt, he's NOT giving away an out. Hitters like Bobby Witt Jr., Jarren Duran, Cedanne Rafaela, Pete Crow Armstrong, Elly de la Cruz, or Trevor Story are fast enough that unless the infielder makes a perfect play, they're going to beat it...and the pressure to make that play results in mistakes. (And mistakes with these guys running result in runs.)

Interesting. PCA tried to bunt for a hit with nobody on and one out last night.

He was out at first by two steps.

When PCA attempts to bunt for a hit, his success rate is right around the same as his batting average. But, when he gets hits, 30%+ of them go for extra bases.

Swinging the bat was clearly the better choice.

No, it's because many hitters simply can't do it and won't try.

Which they won't do, because it is dumb to bunt instead of swing the bat, outside of a very narrow set of circumstances. No matter how good a bunter they are. Because they got to the majors because they can hit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The stat is Total Bases
In my stat, I compared to Plate Appearances not ABs

Which is handy, when all you want to do is know how many bases a player has.

When when you want to know how many runs a player will produce, you would look at OPS instead.

 

[leftwinger]

The problem with the bunt is that it is itself so risky, for such a small reward. Can't bunt with two strikes. Gotta lay down a perfect bunt, or you may make two outs instead of one. And you are essentially giving away an out with a major league hitter at the plate.

Got it. A strikeout has a better chance of helping the situation faced.

 

[leftwinger]

Lack of old time fundamentals missing in NY &LA.

Runner on base, ball gets loose at HP as catcher scrambling around to find it. Batters are not signaling stay or go to runners whose view may be poor. Little things fall on managers? Or its not important anymore? When did the quit?

PHI has players that I have never seen get a meaningful hit (or so it seems) in any playoff game. Marsh? K .... not a great CF either? Why?


STL carried 0.183 CARP who in over 50 playoff games never got a meaningful hit. 2 out singles down 8-0 after leaving 12 runners on does not interest me. Sabernetrics that!

Real Fans screaming, dump the chump. Brain dead MGT hits it 2nd or 3rd as owners mark a spot on the wall to retire the player? Huh? No titles, no big hits. Few others like this also. Lazy useless Fowler actually outdid CARP, getting a couple meaningful hits despite another 0.183 lineup. (Many AB) still on the linup.

Shameful that Mike Trout only got 2 playoff games? Few AB?

 

[leftwinger]

They used to show runs, hits, errors on the crawler. They now show runs only? Why? Such few hits its eembarrassing?

Pitchers are better than 1980 I suppose. No shame striking out 230 times per year. I get it. It's hard now.

 

[gold something]

speculating on what?....is the players BA speculation?...

BA is not WAR. You seem to know something about baseball, so do I really have to explain this to you?

 

[gold something]

Sit down, adults are speaking.

I see that. Adult Day Care Center.

 

[gold something]

Riiiiight... me and all the career statisticians working for MBL GMs.

Okay, we see now that you are an attention seeking troll.

Statisticians?! LOL. WAR is not a statistic.

Statistics are quantifiable and objective. WAR is a factors combination of one's choosing. Basically, a judgment of stats we've always looked at.

 

[Harry Dresden]

BA is not WAR. You seem to know something about baseball, so do I really have to explain this to you?

no its another mathematical formula just like WAR...

 

[Jarlaxle]

Interesting. PCA tried to bunt for a hit with nobody on and one out last night.

He was out at first by two steps.

When PCA attempts to bunt for a hit, his success rate is right around the same as his batting average. But, when he gets hits, 30%+ of them go for extra bases.

Swinging the bat was clearly the better choice.

Your capacity for selective reading is astounding. If he doesn't know how to bunt, OF COURSE it won't work. And sometimes...the defense just makes a perfect play.

Which they won't do, because it is dumb to bunt instead of swing the bat, outside of a very narrow set of circumstances. No matter how good a bunter they are. Because they got to the majors because they can hit.

Horseshit. I get that you never watched a game before 2010, but that's pathetic.

 

[rightwinger]

Which is handy, when all you want to do is know how many bases a player has.

When when you want to know how many runs a player will produce, you would look at OPS instead.

How many bases reflects on your total offensive output

If you want runs produced look at RBIs and runs scored

On Base Plus Slugging double counts your hits and does not reflect run production

 

[Harry Dresden]

How many bases reflects on your total offensive output

If you want runs produced look at RBIs and runs scored

On Base Plus Slugging double counts your hits and does not reflect run production

maybe not, but players with a high OBP and SLG usually are the run producers,,,