3 teens arrested for assault after girl's suicide

[Harry Dresden]

F*** that shit,they were old enough to rape her, they are old enough for the whole world to know who they are. IMO the cops should release the names on national news.

I agree, however this worries me we are starting to see more of this, young teens taking advantage of drunk girls and taking pics.

yea it happened out here a few years back .....one of the guys was a sheriffs kid....i never understood why you would film yourself committing something that is not going to bode well for you if it gets out....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Who tells their parents he was beat up by a girl?

poet. And then his parents told him to put her on ignore.

So the pattern began....

........i get it.....

 

[High_Gravity]

F*** that shit,they were old enough to rape her, they are old enough for the whole world to know who they are. IMO the cops should release the names on national news.

I agree, however this worries me we are starting to see more of this, young teens taking advantage of drunk girls and taking pics.

yea it happened out here a few years back .....one of the guys was a sheriffs kid....i never understood why you would film yourself committing something that is not going to bode well for you if it gets out....

Its like some kind of trophy taking thing, same as when those Soldiers pissed on those Taliban guys a while back and filmed it on their phones.

 

[High_Gravity]

Lawyer: Assaulted teen had drawings, name on body

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) — Awakening in a friend's bedroom after drinking too much at a sleepover, 15-year-old Audrie Pott looked down and realized she had been sexually assaulted and her attackers had written and drawn on intimate parts of her body, her family's attorney said Monday.

Over the next week, she pieced together one horrifying detail after another. She went online and tried to confront the three boys she had known since junior high who she believed had done it.

At school, she saw a group of students huddled around a cellphone and realized that at least one humiliating photo of her was circulating.

"I have a reputation for a night I don't even remember and the whole school knows," she wrote in one Facebook message to a friend.

"I cried when I found out what they did," she wrote in another.

Eight days after the attack, she called and asked her mother to pick her up at school. She said she couldn't deal with it anymore but would not say what was wrong.

And then she hanged herself.

Lawyer: Assaulted teen had drawings, name on body

 

[AmyNation]

California case another three-part tragedy of rape, cyber bullying and suicide - U.S. News


Apparently the girl was drinking at a party, went to a bedroom to sleep it off and, according to the police, 3 boys sexually assaulted her. After pictures and video of her assault were circulated around school, she killed herself.

The state and her parents are comparing this to the Stubenville rape, few details are being released and the boys are saying they are innocent. Like stubenville, the boys are charged with sexual assault and the distribution of child porn.

 

[Esmeralda]

There is already a thread on this.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/gener...rrested-for-assault-after-girl-s-suicide.html

 

[Mad Scientist]

If there's any Justice in America, those boys will be put through a wood chipper.

 

[AmyNation]

Well Im not going to pronounce them guilty just yet. This isnt the stubenville case, the girl killed herself, so we dont have the victims story, only what has been pieced together using her facebook, texts, and some of the pics from that night( police say they believe some evidence has been destroyed).

 

[Esmeralda]

Well Im not going to pronounce them guilty just yet. This isnt the stubenville case, the girl killed herself, so we dont have the victims story, only what has been pieced together using her facebook, texts, and some of the pics from that night( police say they believe some evidence has been destroyed).

This kind of story is so sad. For the victim, for our society. Someone posted that these kinds of things have probably always happened, but we just didn't hear about it. Maybe, but maybe not so often. I think modern society, films, media, etc., are influencing how people behave. It used to be something like this would be something that is entirely taboo, and only the worst of the worst might engage in it, and certainly, they wouldn't be recording it for bragging rights. But worse is that our children, our young people, as evidenced by her school mates, were not horrified by what was done to her and didn't report it immediately, much less try to stop it. Same type of thing as in Stubenville. Why are the kids who are not engaging in the assault outraged and either trying to stop it or reporting it immediately?

 

[High_Gravity]

This type of thing seems to be happening alot, the only reason we know about this is because the girl is dead.

 

[AmyNation]

Many people have a very narrow definition of rape. The boys who raped that girl in Stubenville, IMO, thought that becauze they didnt use their penis, it wasnt rape. Other posters on here were of the same opinion. Could be those boys in this case felt the same way.

 

[High_Gravity]

Many people have a very narrow definition of rape. The boys who raped that girl in Stubenville, IMO, thought that becauze they didnt use their penis, it wasnt rape. Other posters on here were of the same opinion. Could be those boys in this case felt the same way.

We still have a long ways to go in that regard, some people think the girl brought this upon herself too. You don't have to use your penis to rape someone.

 

[Michelle420]

"The family has been trying to understand why their loving daughter would have taken her life at such a young age and to make sure that those responsible would be held accountable," said family attorney Robert Allard.

Maybe the parents should be trying to understand why their 15 year old daughter was passed out drunk at a party, and hold themselves a little accountable.

Maybe the parents should be asking why she posted about the assault on Facebook instead of feeling she could talk to them about it, and hold themselves a little accountable.

That statement goes both ways, maybe the parents of the boys should know why the boys were drinking and raping a passed out girl, and why the boys were sending her naked raped pictures over the internet and cell phones.

This is an age old problem that parents are often unaware of what their teenagers are up to.

In the 1950's you had scandalous teenager pregnancies, that were hushed away either with abortion or adoption.

I think blaming the parents has never really solved the problem.

Teenage years are a time of rebellion and also trying to establish identity outside of family, this is when classic peer pressure can get group think to act in deviant ways that a person would not do individually but would do collectively.

What is missing is empathy in society in general, we don't teach it and we promote an exploitive mentality in our culture.

 

[Esmeralda]

"The family has been trying to understand why their loving daughter would have taken her life at such a young age and to make sure that those responsible would be held accountable," said family attorney Robert Allard.

Maybe the parents should be trying to understand why their 15 year old daughter was passed out drunk at a party, and hold themselves a little accountable.

Maybe the parents should be asking why she posted about the assault on Facebook instead of feeling she could talk to them about it, and hold themselves a little accountable.

That statement goes both ways, maybe the parents of the boys should know why the boys were drinking and raping a passed out girl, and why the boys were sending her naked raped pictures over the internet and cell phones.

This is an age old problem that parents are often unaware of what their teenagers are up to.

In the 1950's you had scandalous teenager pregnancies, that were hushed away either with abortion or adoption.

I think blaming the parents has never really solved the problem.

Teenage years are a time of rebellion and also trying to establish identity outside of family, this is when classic peer pressure can get group think to act in deviant ways that a person would not do individually but would do collectively.

What is missing is empathy in society in general, we don't teach it and we promote an exploitive mentality in our culture.

Absolutely. This is really the bottom line. It is a social problem, throughout our society.

 

[Againsheila]

Many people have a very narrow definition of rape. The boys who raped that girl in Stubenville, IMO, thought that becauze they didnt use their penis, it wasnt rape. Other posters on here were of the same opinion. Could be those boys in this case felt the same way.

I wouldn't be surprised, after all, how many 6th graders claimed oral sex wasn't really sex after the Clinton debacle?

 

[AmyNation]

Teenagers are typically ,selfish creatures who are impulsive, rebellious, peer driven and lack the brain development to always accurately predict the consequences of their actions. The girl gave no thought to the danger of drinking and sleeping at a party, the boys gave no thought to taking advantage of the situation.

However, let us remember, we don't know what these boys did. The girl is not around to tell her side, and its possible that while they crossed a line, and she was humiliated, it wasnt the same thing that happened in Stubenville.

 

[Esmeralda]

Many people have a very narrow definition of rape. The boys who raped that girl in Stubenville, IMO, thought that becauze they didnt use their penis, it wasnt rape. Other posters on here were of the same opinion. Could be those boys in this case felt the same way.

I wouldn't be surprised, after all, how many 6th graders claimed oral sex wasn't really sex after the Clinton debacle?

This is not a discussion of consenual oral sex between two consenting adults. Your post has nothing to do with rape or sexual assault, or sexual molestation of any kind.

 

[Againsheila]

Many people have a very narrow definition of rape. The boys who raped that girl in Stubenville, IMO, thought that becauze they didnt use their penis, it wasnt rape. Other posters on here were of the same opinion. Could be those boys in this case felt the same way.

I wouldn't be surprised, after all, how many 6th graders claimed oral sex wasn't really sex after the Clinton debacle?

This is not a discussion of consenual oral sex between two consenting adults. Your post has nothing to do with rape or sexual assault, or sexual molestation of any kind.

Of course it has to do with the subject. If they don't know it's sex, how do they know it's sexual assault or molestation?

 

[Esmeralda]

Teenagers are typically ,selfish creatures who are impulsive, rebellious, peer driven and lack the brain development to always accurately predict the consequences of their actions. The girl gave no thought to the danger of drinking and sleeping at a party, the boys gave no thought to taking advantage of the situation.

However, let us remember, we don't know what these boys did. The girl is not around to tell her side, and its possible that while they crossed a line, and she was humiliated, it wasnt the same thing that happened in Stubenville.

The same thing that happened in both circumstances is that other kids were aware of what happened, were active on Facebook reading and posting about it, were looking at pictures of it, etc., and didn't, apparently, think this was something to be disgusted and outraged about. Whatever the type of sexual assault on this girl, she was unconscious when it happened. Would you have a child who thought it was okay to have sexual contact with someone who was unconscious? Is that something you would teach your child was okay?

 

[Esmeralda]

I wouldn't be surprised, after all, how many 6th graders claimed oral sex wasn't really sex after the Clinton debacle?

This is not a discussion of consenual oral sex between two consenting adults. Your post has nothing to do with rape or sexual assault, or sexual molestation of any kind.

Of course it has to do with the subject. If they don't know it's sex, how do they know it's sexual assault or molestation?

Sexual contact is sexual contact. It has nothing to do with an individual's opinion on what is full out sex. Touching someone or molesting or assaulting someone in a sexual way when they are not conscious is the issue, not what an individual's opinion of full sex or partial sex is.

By extension you are trying to blame this and other similar types of incidents on Bill Clinton. That is possibly the most intensely ludicrous stretch of logic and exteme example of fallacious thinking I've ever heard.